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215m3
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Posted: 03-March-2004 at 12:45 |
To add the quality has dropped, little or no manners left on the road.
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215m3
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Posted: 03-March-2004 at 12:43 |
jonp wrote:
I prefer them to finnish what they are doing then get out of the way. Don't forget that the limit was raised from 60 to 70 on dual carriage ways within the last 15 years or so. A lot of older drivers MAY not know. |
Beg to differ this point. I've been driving for 15 years and a dual carriageway has always been 70 mph, unless otherwise stated.
Up here in Bonny scotland we only really have 2 lane motorways and most of them can be turned into one lane as they all sit in the overtaking lane. vehicle ahead in near lane a mile ahead better stay in overtaking lane. OVER TAKING WHAT Fecking catseyes!!!!! When we do get the 3 lanes they haven't got a clue. Overtaking lane one and two full, nearside lane empty.
If one sits in the nearsidel ane you can progress quicker as the outside is always breaking. Nightmare.
If there was no speed limit then they would not have a reason to hog the outside lane. Most people would not travel over 80-90 because of fuel costs anyway. MHO
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jonp
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Posted: 03-March-2004 at 12:22 |
Ok. Would you prefer people to drive at a speed they are not comfortable with? If somebody is in a car which isn't very stable at speeds or the person is not a competent driver; should they be made to drive faster?
I prefer them to finnish what they are doing then get out of the way. Don't forget that the limit was raised from 60 to 70 on dual carriage ways within the last 15 years or so. A lot of older drivers MAY not know.
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Autos are easy. Its the steering thats hard.
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kevin
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Posted: 03-March-2004 at 12:22 |
Please, please don't get me started on the middle lane hoggers as I will explode. I thought they had closed the inside with invisible cones last Sunday, perhaps you need special glasses to see them Not a single car using the inside lane
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Kevin
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Chris Miller
Really Senior Member I
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Posted: 03-March-2004 at 11:56 |
That really grates with me they sit in the middle lane at 60 looking with disdain at everyone going past them in the outsiode lane.
If I was a policeman I would pulll everyone of them over and ticket them.
Chris
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IamSpartacus
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Posted: 03-March-2004 at 11:55 |
Is it me or has the avarage quality of motorway driving dropped of late? middle and outside lane prefects who cruise at 60-65 to keep the rest of us honest????
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The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
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darren1001
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Posted: 03-March-2004 at 11:43 |
Fair point. You always get the odd person who spots a lorry a mile down the road, panics, and then pulls out in front of you when they are only doing 60mph, with no consideration to how quickly someone is approaching from behind!
Not to mention all those middle lane hoggers travelling at 60mph who turn motorways into dual carriageways!
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215m3
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Posted: 03-March-2004 at 10:39 |
It not just cars that speed anyway.
When i went to look at my C36 i went down to Necastle and back in the M3. Coming back i passed a school that had a digital board indicating how fast one was actually going. I was doing thirty on the speedo and the board said i was doing 25 mph. The bus a good bit infront of me was doing 35mph OUT SIDE A SCHOOL!!! What chance are the kids gonna have against a bus.
Think these boards should be put in black spot areas and near schools, though there not going to slow everyone down.
I agree with comments above regarding motorway speed, but although the cars have advanced have the drivers?
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Peter H
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Posted: 03-March-2004 at 06:57 |
Inital acceleration bit slower tham m3 but far quicker top end, is heavier though
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Das Wolperdinger
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Nigel
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Posted: 02-March-2004 at 22:55 |
thepits wrote:
Chris Miller wrote:
340 is the V8 engine in the new three series which comes out next year as i understand.
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No it's a Volvo! |
I think you might find it flys gentlemen
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Best Wishes
Nigel
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thepits
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Posted: 02-March-2004 at 22:50 |
Chris Miller wrote:
340 is the V8 engine in the new three series which comes out next year as i understand.
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No it's a Volvo!
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Cats know your every thought.
But don't care.
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jonp
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Posted: 02-March-2004 at 17:17 |
Lets be honest...the vast majority of us speed.
I'm not tring to condone speeding but that is a fact! Why race on the roads? Does it make one more of a man? I'm 25 and don't see the point.
IMHO if you want to risk your own life fine...don't risk mine or anybody elses!
Take cover while the flak starts.
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Autos are easy. Its the steering thats hard.
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M BLUR
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Posted: 02-March-2004 at 16:11 |
Webdunk wrote:
215m3 wrote:
I floored my MB and left him for dust |
Still enjoying yout taxi then Toby See ya Sunday... |
& there's me thinking that thing was for towing and school runs.. doh!
Do you need a special license to own one if you're under 50?
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st-EVO
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Posted: 02-March-2004 at 15:57 |
Fair enough keep the lunacy for the track. But dont you think our speed limits and rules are really outdated. technological advances have made cars much safer in recent years the speed limits should change to reflect this, I dont think 100 mph is unrealistic for motorway travel, and i don,t drive past schools or through very built up areas at more than 20mph
i have driven a 996 at 180 mph on an empty spanish motorway and loved it but wouldnt do that here, the roads are too busy for a start but in our modern cars 70 mph on a motorway is unrealistic and makes a criminal out of 70% of drivers
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B 7 VP
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Posted: 29-February-2004 at 12:57 |
Jonners, I am sure you know.The law has been recently updated so now , Death caused by Dangerous Driving, Drink or Drugs = 3D,s is now 14 YEARS MAX, and death with charge of Manslaughter LIFE. BUT--- I have the solution for all you Warp drivers- Come and show us how Really great drivers can drive.Speed is no Prob-No Gatso,s -No BIB, No unmarked BIB cars-No traffic lights, No pedestrian crossings,-Just YOU and that undoubted talent.Come Drive in Paradise "Nurburgring".Dottinger Hohe will let you zip through at 170 mph but thats a straight, try it through thru Pflanzengarten.August 9th-11th look forward to meeting up with you all.
SAFETYFAST
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Chris Miller
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Posted: 29-February-2004 at 10:33 |
340 is the V8 engine in the new three series which comes out next year as i understand.
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johnny318is
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Posted: 29-February-2004 at 10:14 |
Was in a 340 a couple of days last week lot quicker than your toys ! [/QUOTE]
That must be some Volvo
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John
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Peter H
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Posted: 29-February-2004 at 08:20 |
Errr - is this turning into "I`m a boy racer - get me out of Here" web site ?
Was in a 340 a couple of days last week lot quicker than your toys !
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Das Wolperdinger
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Jonners
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Posted: 27-February-2004 at 18:55 |
Who said it wouldn't be fun?
You're reading far too much into what I said.
If you have a bad accident and the finger of blame is pointing in your direction - let's be pessimistic and imagine a pedestrian is rendered a tetraplegic, or someone is killed - insurers (who resort to the law at the drop of a hat) and the crown prosecution service are going to do everything they can to build a case against you. You might think it's unlikely that anything you say one here would ever count against you, but I wouldn't be so sure.
A self glorifying street racer isn't going to look very clever in court. Any idea what the penalty is for causing death by dangerous driving?
Am not a kill joy - just wouldn't want a bit of fun to backfire on you.
End of submission.
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M3PSM
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Posted: 27-February-2004 at 17:12 |
Speaking as an idiot, it is my strong feeling that this thread could prove fun.
We don't spend so much money on such fast cars to do a couple of track days a year do we????
Mmmm, maybe we do.
Maybe we only buy them for the badge.
Personally, I bought a fast car to drive fast wherever I feel safe doing it, but that's just me.
If I wanted to stick to the limits I'd buy a Caterham for the track & an escort
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