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Topic: Was it you?
Posted By: M3PSM
Subject: Was it you?
Date Posted: 26-February-2004 at 13:13
On the scooby website, they have a "was it you" section where, if you'd had a bit of a race with another subaru, you could find out who it was & what mod's they'd had done etc.
Since having my M3 I've had a couple of high jinx encounters with other M3's so thought I'd find who it was.
M11 northbound from London to M25 junction at 11:40am today whilst travelling at ***mph I noticed something rapidly growing in my mirrors.
Within a few seconds I realised it an M3 so floored it.
We were soon doing double what we should have been onto the M25 slip road, but, alas went diffent directions.
If it was you, it's good to see someone else driving it how it was meant to driven & following through that gap onto the slip road was filth

Hope we meet again with less traffic.
Oh & thanks to the M11 track officials for providing such a great straight for speed testing. Mine tops out at exactly 156 (I of course calculated that, as actually going that fast would be silly, honest guv)

Paul



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Posted By: Darran
Date Posted: 26-February-2004 at 13:16

Originally posted by M3PSM M3PSM wrote:

If it was you, it's good to see someone else driving it how it was meant to

Hope we meet again with less traffic.

"How it was meant to be driven" at double the speed limit in traffic.............

Don't get me wrong, i'm no saint but those sorts of speeds are probably best left for the track or at least traffic-free roads.........



Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 26-February-2004 at 13:23
Ar'nt there SPECS cameras all around there?


Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 26-February-2004 at 13:28
Fair enough. Each to their own.
With no oncoming traffic, 3 lanes & clear visibilty I can choose my "safe" places & travel at a speed I feel I can avoid trouble at.
This speed varies for everyone & there is always a risk attached, i.e. puncture, someone rapidly & unpredictably changing lanes etc. but I've not had an accident, car or bike in over 15 years & feel confident with both my perception of danger & my car control.
Like I say though, each to his own. I may be eating my words next time out & pick up a ban.

Paul


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1992 Yamaha TDM 850
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Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 26-February-2004 at 13:40
There's a Gatso southbound where it goes into two lanes near the A406 & often a mobile at the same location (not sure why, maybe he has a longer range or to catch people before they brake for the Gatso) but there are no SPECS below the Harlow junction or I'd have been locked up by now (for a long, long time).
Watch out for the unmarked blue Volvo though. It's usually about on Saturday's.

Paul

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1989 E30 325 Touring
1992 Yamaha TDM 850
www.myallracing.co.uk


Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 26-February-2004 at 13:43
Would this be open for just M cars or M car owners other cars. Just that i was sitting at a certain speed and car came from behind with all his lights on. irritated me. Showed my rear foggies and he pulled up next to me giving me abuse. He had a brand new RS focus 212bhp jobbied. I floored my MB and left him for dust and he got more flustered. Enjoyed that very much. Great Q car.

edited to remove 'objectionable language' - please follow the http://www.bmwcarclubgb.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10&PN=1 - guidelines

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Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 26-February-2004 at 14:18
Name n shame em all I say.

Or praise where it due

Paul

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Drive it like you stole it!
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1995 3.0 E36 Coupe
1989 E30 325 Touring
1992 Yamaha TDM 850
www.myallracing.co.uk


Posted By: johnny318is
Date Posted: 26-February-2004 at 14:20
I was in an E28 M5 many years ago near Macclesfield, an E36 M3 came up behind so close I couldn't see his front number plate. What a w***er I thought and floored it up to about 120 on a 70mph A road. A mile or two later, he overtook me, pulled in front and from his parcel shelf up folded a red LED screen that said **POLICE**STOP** Lesson learned - always check your opponent first

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Plymouth UK

96 E34 540i Individual
98 E39 523i SE
01 Renaultsport Clio 172


Posted By: jonp
Date Posted: 26-February-2004 at 15:19

Well said Darran

Keep speeds like that on a track.

 



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Autos are easy. Its the steering thats hard.


Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 26-February-2004 at 16:48
Originally posted by 215m3 215m3 wrote:

I floored my MB and left him for dust


Still enjoying yout taxi then Toby See ya Sunday...

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Posted By: Jonners
Date Posted: 27-February-2004 at 10:18
Chaps

Speaking as a solicitor, my strong feeling is that this sort of thread is not a good idea.


Posted By: st-EVO
Date Posted: 27-February-2004 at 14:36

solicitor? is that a kind of Estate agent?



Posted By: Jonners
Date Posted: 27-February-2004 at 16:27
Watch it mate - that's defamatory.

And what do estate agents know about the law?

And what do I know about selling real estate?

That's like getting mixed up between an astronaut and a bag of fish.

I rest my case, m'lud, the defendant hasn't got a clue wot he's talking about, but he is very very funny!!!


Posted By: st-EVO
Date Posted: 27-February-2004 at 16:33
I knew an astronaut once think his name was Eel Armstrong 


Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 27-February-2004 at 17:12
Speaking as an idiot, it is my strong feeling that this thread could prove fun.

We don't spend so much money on such fast cars to do a couple of track days a year do we????

Mmmm, maybe we do.

Maybe we only buy them for the badge.

Personally, I bought a fast car to drive fast wherever I feel safe doing it, but that's just me.

If I wanted to stick to the limits I'd buy a Caterham for the track & an escort


Posted By: Jonners
Date Posted: 27-February-2004 at 18:55
Who said it wouldn't be fun?

You're reading far too much into what I said.

If you have a bad accident and the finger of blame is pointing in your direction - let's be pessimistic and imagine a pedestrian is rendered a tetraplegic, or someone is killed - insurers (who resort to the law at the drop of a hat) and the crown prosecution service are going to do everything they can to build a case against you. You might think it's unlikely that anything you say one here would ever count against you, but I wouldn't be so sure.

A self glorifying street racer isn't going to look very clever in court. Any idea what the penalty is for causing death by dangerous driving?

Am not a kill joy - just wouldn't want a bit of fun to backfire on you.

End of submission.


Posted By: Peter H
Date Posted: 29-February-2004 at 08:20

Errr - is this turning into "I`m a boy racer - get me out of Here" web site ?

Was in a 340 a couple of days last week lot quicker than your toys !



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Posted By: johnny318is
Date Posted: 29-February-2004 at 10:14

Was in a 340 a couple of days last week lot quicker than your toys !

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That must be some Volvo

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John

Plymouth UK

96 E34 540i Individual
98 E39 523i SE
01 Renaultsport Clio 172


Posted By: Chris Miller
Date Posted: 29-February-2004 at 10:33

340 is the V8 engine in the new three series which comes out next year as i understand.

 



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Posted By: B 7 VP
Date Posted: 29-February-2004 at 12:57

 Jonners, I am sure you know.The law has been recently updated so now , Death caused by Dangerous Driving, Drink or Drugs = 3D,s is now 14 YEARS MAX, and death with charge of Manslaughter LIFE. BUT--- I have the solution for all you Warp drivers- Come and show us how Really great drivers can drive.Speed is no Prob-No Gatso,s -No BIB, No unmarked BIB cars-No traffic lights, No pedestrian crossings,-Just YOU and that undoubted talent.Come Drive in Paradise "Nurburgring".Dottinger Hohe will let you zip through at 170 mph but thats a straight, try it through thru Pflanzengarten.August 9th-11th look forward to meeting up with you all.

                                          SAFETYFAST



Posted By: st-EVO
Date Posted: 02-March-2004 at 15:57

Fair enough keep the lunacy for the track. But dont you think our speed limits and rules are really outdated. technological advances have made cars much safer in recent years the speed limits should change to reflect this, I dont think 100 mph is unrealistic for motorway travel, and i don,t drive past schools or through very built up areas at more than 20mph

i have driven a 996 at 180 mph on an empty spanish motorway and loved it but wouldnt do that here, the roads are too busy for a start but in our modern cars 70 mph on a motorway is unrealistic and makes a criminal out of 70% of drivers 



Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 02-March-2004 at 16:11

Originally posted by Webdunk Webdunk wrote:

Originally posted by 215m3 215m3 wrote:

I floored my MB and left him for dust


Still enjoying yout taxi then Toby See ya Sunday...

& there's me thinking that thing was for towing and school runs.. doh!

Do you need a special license to own one if you're under 50?



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2005 X5 3.0D Sport
1991 Esprit SE Race car



Posted By: jonp
Date Posted: 02-March-2004 at 17:17

Lets be honest...the vast majority of us speed.

I'm not tring to condone speeding but that is a fact! Why race on the roads? Does it make one more of a man? I'm 25 and don't see the point.

IMHO if you want to risk your own life fine...don't risk mine or anybody elses!

 

Take cover while the flak starts.



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Autos are easy. Its the steering thats hard.


Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 02-March-2004 at 22:50
Originally posted by Chris Miller Chris Miller wrote:

340 is the V8 engine in the new three series which comes out next year as i understand.


 



No it's a Volvo!

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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 02-March-2004 at 22:55
Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

Originally posted by Chris Miller Chris Miller wrote:

340 is the V8 engine in the new three series which comes out next year as i understand.


 



No it's a Volvo!

I think you might find it flys gentlemen



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Best Wishes

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Posted By: Peter H
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 06:57
Inital acceleration bit slower tham m3 but far quicker top end, is heavier though

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Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 10:39
It not just cars that speed anyway.

When i went to look at my C36 i went down to Necastle and back in the M3. Coming back i passed a school that had a digital board indicating how fast one was actually going. I was doing thirty on the speedo and the board said i was doing 25 mph. The bus a good bit infront of me was doing 35mph OUT SIDE A SCHOOL!!! What chance are the kids gonna have against a bus.

Think these boards should be put in black spot areas and near schools, though there not going to slow everyone down.

I agree with comments above regarding motorway speed, but although the cars have advanced have the drivers?


Posted By: darren1001
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 11:43

Fair point. You always get the odd person who spots a lorry a mile down the road, panics, and then pulls out in front of you when they are only doing 60mph, with no consideration to how quickly someone is approaching from behind!

Not to mention all those middle lane hoggers travelling at 60mph who turn motorways into dual carriageways!



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Posted By: IamSpartacus
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 11:55

Is it me or has the avarage quality of motorway driving dropped of late? middle and outside lane prefects who cruise at 60-65 to keep the rest of us honest????Angry

 

 

 



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Posted By: Chris Miller
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 11:56
That really grates with me they sit in the middle lane at 60 looking with disdain at everyone going past them in the outsiode lane.
 
If I was a policeman I would pulll everyone of them over and ticket them.
 
Chris


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Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 12:22

Please, please don't get me started on the middle lane hoggers as I will explode. I thought they had closed the inside with invisible cones last Sunday, perhaps you need special glasses to see them  Not a single car using the inside lane



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'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
’95 E34 M5
’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)


Posted By: jonp
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 12:22

Ok. Would you prefer people to drive at a speed they are not comfortable with? If somebody is in a car which isn't very stable at speeds or the person is not a competent driver; should they be made to drive faster?

I prefer them to finnish what they are doing then get out of the way. Don't forget that the limit was raised from 60 to 70 on dual carriage ways within the last 15 years or so. A lot of older drivers MAY not know.



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Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 12:43
Originally posted by jonp jonp wrote:


I prefer them to finnish what they are doing then get out of the way. Don't forget that the limit was raised from 60 to 70 on dual carriage ways within the last 15 years or so. A lot of older drivers MAY not know.



Beg to differ this point. I've been driving for 15 years and a dual carriageway has always been 70 mph, unless otherwise stated.

Up here in Bonny scotland we only really have 2 lane motorways and most of them can be turned into one lane as they all sit in the overtaking lane. vehicle ahead in near lane a mile ahead better stay in overtaking lane. OVER TAKING WHAT Fecking catseyes!!!!! When we do get the 3 lanes they haven't got a clue. Overtaking lane one and two full, nearside lane empty.

If one sits in the nearsidel ane you can progress quicker as the outside is always breaking. Nightmare.

If there was no speed limit then they would not have a reason to hog the outside lane. Most people would not travel over 80-90 because of fuel costs anyway. MHO


Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 12:45
To add the quality has dropped, little or no manners left on the road.


Posted By: falkster
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:00

Dont get started on manners.  The manners of most drivers these days are shocking.

I like you Toby have been driving nearly 15 years and have noticed a massive down turn in general acknowledgements when letting people out and overall poor driving (jumping into my safe braking distance).  Even when it is your right of way and you let them down a street, not even a knod or a wink.

No wonder road rage is so often happening. The amount of times Im sat in either car (not just M3) at the lights and some idiot has to get in the outside (right turning) lane and cut in as soon as the lights change.

I know I shouldnt but this affects the way I drive and the manners I give people and this is perpetual.

Rant over

Sorry



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E30 M3 (Toy)
Alfa 147 (just gone)
BMW 330d (new work horse)
Daimler Double 6 (no idea yet)


Posted By: darren1001
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:06
IMO lane hoggers are a big cause of congestion and accidents. This sort of driving only serves to frustrate other drivers, and that can lead to accidents.

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Posted By: jonp
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:15

Aggressive driving causes most accidents i recon.

If people allowed for faster drivers and faster drivers allowed for slower drivers there wouldn't be this disscussion. 

What is the point of getting annoyed with people, while they are driving?

If every body wasn't so rightous about doing whatever speed they wanted to and planned the road ahead instead of reacting to hazards, the roads would be safer.

 

"Beg to differ this point. I've been driving for 15 years and a dual carriageway has always been 70 mph, unless otherwise stated." You sure? They used to be 60. 



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Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:15
Mmmm. Looks like I've opened a can of worms here & still never found out who is was.
Personally, I speed a lot but, I do 20 near schools or in residential estates, I don't speed in town centres or built up areas, I don't undertake (unless it's a blatant middle lane hogger), I don't suffer from road rage & I will sit behind an idiot for ever if it's not completely safe to overtake.
So, am I dangerous? Obviously in many of your eyes, but not mine. Do I regularly drive over 100mph? Yes. Do I hang the back out on roundabouts & favourite bends? Yes. Do I know exactly how fast my M3 will go down the M11? Yes. Have I had an accident in the last 15 years? No.
I'm probably amongst the minority here in so far as I can't afford to do track day that regularly & bought my car for the road. As such I drive as fast as "I think" is safe in any given situation.
If we all drove the same cars, had the same ability & reaction, then maybe speed limits could & should be raised to suit us in certain areas, but everyone is different. I view the speed limits as there for the muppets & will always do so.
I'm above these laws that should get a reaction.
See my next post.

Paul


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1989 E30 325 Touring
1992 Yamaha TDM 850
www.myallracing.co.uk


Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:17
Originally posted by darren1001 darren1001 wrote:

IMO lane hoggers are a big cause of congestion and accidents. This sort of driving only serves to frustrate other drivers, and that can lead to accidents.


AGREE. BAN THE LOT FOR LIFE. If your not paying attention to the highway code(within reason) and other users then they should not be allowed on the roads.


Posted By: falkster
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:24

One further annoying point for me is that it is nearly as dangerous to drive too slow on a national speed limit road as it is to drive over.

These drivers that are tootling along at 25-30mph and you are travelling at the limit and come round a corner to be met by this. Might aswell be a car driving on the wrong side of the road.



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E30 M3 (Toy)
Alfa 147 (just gone)
BMW 330d (new work horse)
Daimler Double 6 (no idea yet)


Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:30
Originally posted by falkster falkster wrote:

Might aswell be a car driving on the wrong side of the road.



Aren't we?


Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:33
Originally posted by 215m3 215m3 wrote:

Originally posted by falkster falkster wrote:

Might aswell be a car driving on the wrong side of the road.



Aren't we?



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'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
’95 E34 M5
’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)


Posted By: jonp
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:35

M3PSM please do not take this as a direct atteck on you.

Undertaking is so bloody dangerous and there is no excuse. I have never done it. Don't get me wrong guys, yes i speed, yes i get annoyed. BUT what is the point of risking peoples lifes just to show off?

 

Please guys i know maybe i should be reaching for the pipe and slippers, take it easy.



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Autos are easy. Its the steering thats hard.


Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:42
Problem is and the way i see it.

Some people enjoy drive - us lot

The rest either don't or have to to get where there going.

Those who don't ain't interested in anyone else other than themselves, in the main, and therefore don't give a sh*t about anyone just their own safety regardless of highway code police etc.

How many people have been followed by the police, who are in an emergency, when they have the blues flashing and don't react and get out the way.

Case rested


Posted By: falkster
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:46
Originally posted by jonp jonp wrote:

M3PSM please do not take this as a direct atteck on you.

Undertaking is so bloody dangerous and there is no excuse. I have never done it. Don't get me wrong guys, yes i speed, yes i get annoyed. BUT what is the point of risking peoples lifes just to show off?

 

Please guys i know maybe i should be reaching for the pipe and slippers, take it easy.

 

 I second that one. Because of the planks filling up the outside lane you then get more cars dipping into the middle lane and coming back out 5-6 cars further down and so on.

If people used the motorways as intended this wouldnt happen.

I know above 70mph is illegal but it happen so if these people that are doing that or less could stick to the other two lane all would be rosie in the garden. Im not saying I drive too fast but there are times when I 'clean' it out but then have to slow right down so I dont go into the back of a car doing 65-70 in the outside lane

This is better than theropy

Toby: Very funny rolleyes



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E30 M3 (Toy)
Alfa 147 (just gone)
BMW 330d (new work horse)
Daimler Double 6 (no idea yet)


Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:49
jonp, you are right (almost). There should be absolutely no reason or justification to undertake but;
-if i come up behind a merc doing 70 in the fast lane of an empty motorway or dual carraigeway & he doesn't move after several flashes, I will undertake him
-if I'm following protocol in the fast lane when the other lanes are clear & I'm being repeatedly undertaken, I will eventually join the masses.
That said, if someone undertakes me, I indicate to turn in on them (but don't of course), or gently close the gap they are aiming for.Undertaking is almost a black & white "no go", but as with everything, there are exception, in my opinion.

Paul



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1989 E30 325 Touring
1992 Yamaha TDM 850
www.myallracing.co.uk


Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:56
Part of the M6 is 4 lanes.

Last year i was travelling north in the nearside lane. No other traffic, the road was dead.

Ahead a solitary car in the 3rd lane, secong overtaking lane out of 4 lanes. Is it or would it have been more dangerous to overtake as you would get closer to this car or to undertake? You seen the car for over a mile with no reaction. overtake the car is within 2 metres. Undertake the car is within 8 metres.

I'll leave my actual manouvre to your your own thoughts.

What was safer - Overtake or Undertake?


Posted By: jonp
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 13:59
Ok i see you point M3PSM. Just consider this mate; if there is an accident ahead you are in someone elses 'escape route'. I have seen a AMG merc thing come a cropper to that!

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Posted By: st-EVO
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 14:15

I have to admit to undertaking, It really bugs me that the lane everyone is supposed to be in is usually virtually empty and the other 2 which are only supposed to be used for overtaking are full.

In Spain where most drivers could be described as being at least a little bit crazy the motorways are a pleasure to drive on. people pull out to overtake a lorry and then pull in again, not stay out to overtake the next lorry a mile further down the road 

     



Posted By: mogart1
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 15:49

I spend quite a lot of time up and down the M6 (not in my M3), and undertaking is now totally rife.  There was some talk of making this legal, like it is in the states? I don't see the problem myself, providing you don't bat past up the inside. Its the speed differential that is the danger surely. 

Anyway back to the initial topic .....who was driving the Toyta Supra in Preston about 2 weeks ago. From a set of ights down a dual carriageway we set off together and ran pretty much side by side, and both eased off at the same time without being too silly - top joy.

Also who was the driver of the ST170 who pulled along side me on another local dcway....yes mine really is an M3, not a dressed up 316i.. but my engine was cold and I am not prepared to be that cruel to it...even as a matter of honour!.

Who was the guy in the black 206 GTi coming down Blackpool road past McDonalds...its a bit slow isn't it!!

I just thought this makes me look terrible...but this is what its all about isn't it?? The reason why we don't drive mundano's or Shalaxies...

 



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Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 16:11
Thank you Mogart1.
Some gets the point.


Posted By: jonp
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 16:39

A guy raced me in a transit van.......sad.

Is your car so poo that you need to show off? Disscuss.



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Autos are easy. Its the steering thats hard.


Posted By: jonp
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 16:54

Sorry, just re read my last post- it sounded a bit off. 

You are right BMW's are nice cars but...they are just that Cars. If you/i decide to drive what i believe to be a superior marque then why drive dangerously? 



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Autos are easy. Its the steering thats hard.


Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 17:15
we seem to be going around in circles. I don't drive dangerously in my opinion.
Maybe you cannot control your car on a motorway above 70mph. I can.
If this thread is so offensive though, I'm sure there's one on interior improvements or air-con settings on here somewhere.
Mmmm, maybe a tad harsh, but you get my point & it obviously "wasn't you" i met on the M11

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1989 E30 325 Touring
1992 Yamaha TDM 850
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Posted By: jonp
Date Posted: 03-March-2004 at 17:28

Ha-ha!

I might start a thread on 'not using kick down' or 'driving on economy tyres'!

The last time i drove the M11 i was naughty too, noit wasn't me

I owe you a pint for making me laugh

 

P.S. I'm puttin' n2o on the e28  ...er hang on let me pick up my halo.



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Autos are easy. Its the steering thats hard.


Posted By: cecotto147
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 12:49

Carrying on from this but from a different location, I had someone waving frantically at me on the A120 from Bishops Stortford to Colchester, they were heading towards Bishops Stortford, flashing like they were on a satellite holiday rep programme!

Who were you and was it you, or meant for you?

(They were in a small peugeot 106 sized thing)



Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 12:59
They weren't warning you of a speed trap ahead were they?


Posted By: cecotto147
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 13:01
No, traffic moving like an elderly snail


Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 13:14
Originally posted by 215m3 215m3 wrote:

Part of the M6 is 4 lanes.

Last year i was travelling north in the nearside lane. No other traffic, the road was dead.

Ahead a solitary car in the 3rd lane, secong overtaking lane out of 4 lanes. Is it or would it have been more dangerous to overtake as you would get closer to this car or to undertake?


I thought 'undertaking' and 'going faster in a lane to the left of the car passed' were 2 different things...

In the situation you describe, I see no problem with continuing at your chosen speed in what was the correct lane.

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Posted By: Peter H
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 14:33

So - Who are the people who consider themselves bad or average drivers ?, try a poll & most well say they are good or above average, nobody can honestly say that whatever the speed they are doing that they are prepared for ANY POSSIBLE SENARIO

As some of you have already admitted another driver has done something that you did not expect, in most cases involving high speed



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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 14:45

Dam good point peter, I'm average in answer to your question.

The main reason, in my opinion that the standard of driving is getting so low.......is.......speed cameras !!!!!

It is getting so rare to actually see a police patrol car on a motorway now, people will be taking pictures soon, to prove there has been one that week.

Love them, or loathe them, police patrols soon sort out the bad drivers.



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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 14:53
Originally posted by 215m3 215m3 wrote:

Originally posted by falkster falkster wrote:

Might aswell be a car driving on the wrong side of the road.



Aren't we?

NO we are NOT

we are British, we drive on the LEFT, forever I hope, just to really stick two fingers up at the europeans.



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Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 15:13
Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:

Originally posted by 215m3 215m3 wrote:

Originally posted by falkster falkster wrote:


Might aswell be a car driving on the wrong side of the road.




Aren't we?


NO we are NOT


we are British, we drive on the LEFT, forever I hope, just to really stick two fingers up at the europeans.



Nigel i meant we drive cars for roads where they drive on the right. so we are sitting on the wrong side making it the right side if driving on the right. Hope this does not confuse even more as i have had to read through it a few times to make sure it's correct.


Posted By: st-EVO
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 15:43

you have had too many

 



Posted By: Peter H
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 15:50

Think its British Australians & Japanese who drive on left. Sweeden changed in the 60`s i think. Origionally it was the same as shaking hands, all to do with the right arm being the sword hand.

Thanks for your comment nigel, I think I am average as well & the sooner more people realise they are not invincable in their car the better. as far as I Iknow no manufacturer has fitted a force field to protect the driver in a crash, Metal has a nasty habit of bending when hit.



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Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 16:26
Hmmm, food for thought.
How good am I? Good.
Am I prepared for every scenario? No because no one can.
How good a pedestrian am I? Good, but a drunk driver could still mount the pavement & kill me.
I think Jackie Stewart had the best idea to reduce road accidents.
Place a 6 inch spike in the middle of everyones steering wheel. How many can say they would drive the same then?
I could.
I drive fast & yes it is risk, as the pc said, there are many elements that could go wrong, but I feel safe with my speed & have a track record to keep me confident so my throttle foot will stay down.
That's why I own an M3, not because it's expensive or a BMW or cool or comfy. Because it's fast & it handles.


Posted By: Peter H
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 16:37
Question - What is the most dangerous part of a car ?

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Posted By: jonp
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 16:45

Peter,  dare i say driver.

 

 



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Autos are easy. Its the steering thats hard.


Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 17:14
Driver without a doubt.
Would you drive one if it was the tyres or brakes though?

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1989 E30 325 Touring
1992 Yamaha TDM 850
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Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 17:21
The ignition key. . .


Posted By: st-EVO
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 17:28

the back seat

9 months later the evidence screams for itself

 



Posted By: M3PSM
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 17:30
Changing the subject a tad.
Anyone here own the Estoril blue E36 3.2 in Harlow (near blockbusters)?
If so, how do you keep it that clean. It looks like new.


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1989 E30 325 Touring
1992 Yamaha TDM 850
www.myallracing.co.uk


Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 18:22
Originally posted by st-EVO st-EVO wrote:

the back seat

9 months later the evidence screams for itself

 

LOL

You are soooooo right !!!

The screaming is ok, its when daddys little girl gets to the teenage years..........how can something that was once so beautiful and the light of your life devolope a mouth like that !!!!!!!



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Posted By: Peter H
Date Posted: 05-March-2004 at 19:22

st-EVO wrote:

the back seat

9 months later the evidence screams for itself

 

 

 LOL  Mmm need to be carefull how I answer this.............. Ah -- no that can still be misinterpreted !!!!   Moving vehicles & all that

 

 

OK .....Answer to Question was --- The Nut Behind The Wheel

Was told that a few years ago



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