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    Posted: 24-April-2007 at 16:38

OH and..happy motoring TJ....those wheels look well...savage...........I miss my bemmer even more...bigcry

 

220miles on a 525tds.....love to hear that...love to know what been done to her



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First off..its the fuel pump that needs a tuning I think!!it would give it that kick ye are looking for....

As before christmas on the old fuel pump in the engin bay,this was turned up to the last..great kick,but I still had difficulty starting and when cold it was a night mare stuttering down the road.the new pump was put in and the fueling also turned down and the kick was not the same..baverian Motors didnt want to turn up the new pump so early in its life,said it would do damage.

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Congratulations! Enjoy the power!

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Right, got car back from dealer today and got talking to technician. Denishogan and BMWCare you were very close, apparently it was a vacuum hose which had spilt and worked itself loose from the EGR valve, also there is a rod leading to the turbo which had seized.

So a new hose was fitted and the rod unseized. I also got a print-out from the GT1. There were unrelated faults which were dealt with and cleared. So the cars power is back to normal with the ability to pull tree stumps out of the ground!!! A good recommendation there boys! Thanks.

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wheels and cd boot loader are first on the list for mine aswell..its a bit of a basic model mine but we`ll get there
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I did indeed! And just fitted a nice set of 17s onto it too that I bought off of Gazzaa. So tis trucking along well now, i must say.
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@TJ: Didn't realize you bought Oisin's 5 - nice bus. Well wear!
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@ jrafferty: 220k - nice!  I love seeing cars with big miles.

Mine drives like a 60k car too - a testament to the previous owner. Cheers Oisin!

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Originally posted by flyingalexf68 flyingalexf68 wrote:

Nice pic
Ben. Looks like someone having a laugh. They've taped up the lights to
make it more aerodynamic.

Ah Fe*k off! Thats a group A 350 bhp 242 being raced in oz in the early eighties... Wait til my T5 powered one is built ill take you for a scare in it!

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I have just bought a 1997 525tds tonite and i find it has nothing until about 2000rpm and then it takes off..Oh and it has 220,000mls and drives as good as 60,000(thats bmw for ya)
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Yes Mick you're right. In E39 guise, the 5 series diesels were initially 525TDS and 530d, 143bhp and 184bhp respectively. When the 525d came out in '01 it had 163bhp and the 530d was 194bhp!
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Originally posted by uoi1772 uoi1772 wrote:

The 530d aint more sophisticated than a 525d but it should definitely have more grunt than mine. These 2 motors have the same engine model code. Only difference is obviously capacity and the resultant output in power and torque 163bhp for mine and 184bhp for the 530d, these are '02 figures of course. The latest models are well up again on this.

  

mine is 01 and its 194 bhp
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That's what I'm hoping uoi1772 - I bought mine with 178k up on it, and a colleague had it for the previous 3yrs and 100k. It did throw a conrod @ 131k which required a bottom end rebuild though .... still on original turbo, intercooler etc etc.. 
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The 530d aint more sophisticated than a 525d but it should definitely have more grunt than mine. These 2 motors have the same engine model code. Only difference is obviously capacity and the resultant output in power and torque 163bhp for mine and 184bhp for the 530d, these are '02 figures of course. The latest models are well up again on this.

There's a definite problem alright with the pick-up in mine between 1 and 3 rpm, for since i've had the car, it hasn't lagged like this before.

Someone mentioned earlier, a 530d pinning you to your seat when accelarating, this thing used to do the same before this lagging problem. 

Interesting though, when I booked the car in with local BMW dealer today, (who has a GT1 diagnostics tester) and explained the problem, they asked if I had the replacement Mass Air-Flow Meter programmed in when fitted. Not realising this needed to be done, they pointed out that they would do this first before running the diagnostics test.

Incidentally, BMW diesel badging was first td, then tds and now 'd'. The latest 2.5'd' has an output of 177bhp and the 3.0d 231bhp.

In hindsight TJ, my previous 2.5TDS never gave any trouble after 208k when I changed for this one, a real bulletproof motor!   

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Actually thats exactly what I mean. Not to mention the vibrations. Nice pic
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Well it does feel torquey below the power band, i.e you can start in 2nd and all that but the peak power or at least the start of the peak curve comes on just above 2k rpm and then you feel the boost.

The 530d would be a much more sophisticated animal!

Originally posted by flyingalexf68 flyingalexf68 wrote:

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mums Range Rover has the 2.5 BMW engine from the 525tds. It has all its
power lower then 2300 as well. (not that it really has any power as it weighs
2.7 tonne empty)

I think you mean all the noise alex!

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Something wrong there lads. It should be at full torque below 2300rpm. As I
said 1800-2000 is the norm for Turbo Diesels. The 530d will pull very
strongly from 1800rpm. You get pushed back into your seat. 2300 is far to
high for the power to come in. I'd normally be changing up a gear in my
Doblo van (1.9 JTD) at 2300-2500. And also now that I think, Pamela's
mums Range Rover has the 2.5 BMW engine from the 525tds. It has all its
power lower then 2300 as well. (not that it really has any power as it weighs
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@ T.J, that is magnified even when it is chipped, i recall mine especially in 1st pulling away from a junction, if you let clutch out fully at say 1100rpm and floor it it would pause for a second, climb to 2200 slowly then whoosh... to around 4k ish..

@ Denis, hmmm 6 cyl, possibly a scaled down 530d so. Did you manage to do something about that timing chain..

Sure if you want a hand let me know ill be around,

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@ Denis - yeah mine seems to be lacking alot of torque below the turbo point. a 2.5 litre NA diesel should pull better.

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