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lukeduke 
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 Topic: secondhand car market - is it quiet?Posted: 16-October-2006 at 13:17 |
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i would be better off to sell private as i think i might get more and havin cash when buying has great bargain power!!!! i'd say i would be insulted at what the stealers would offer me on a trade in!
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Posted: 16-October-2006 at 12:03 |
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Luke, with the new coupe out and a new M3 to come soon you might get a nice '04/'05 from a dealers with warranty etc for a good price, but I don't know if they give good prices for trade ins. Have you gotten a trade in price for your car?
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lukeduke
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Posted: 16-October-2006 at 10:22 |
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@Alex... i was hoping to get a 03/04 M3 when or if i sell mine, but i'm not so sure, maybe ill just keep the one i have!!!!!
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Posted: 15-October-2006 at 22:58 |
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No, I never asked. Send Richie a PM.
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1995 e36 3.0 M3 Coupe, Daytona Violet, AP Racing BBK, CCFL Angel Eyes, M3 Spoiler, M-Tec 3 Steering Wheel.
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Posted: 15-October-2006 at 22:19 |
Any idea on price? |
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Posted: 15-October-2006 at 22:17 |
That 300CE still for sale? |
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Posted: 15-October-2006 at 22:16 |
Do you still have the 300CE for sale? Tried PM you but it rejected! (MooseT circa 1999!) |
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Posted: 15-October-2006 at 22:14 |
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That CE300 looks nice. I was behind one on the M50 today. They really are one of the nicest cars Merc ever made. That 740 has very low spec. No climate? You're after a luxury cruiser then. Al in AC Cars had a Audi A8 4.2 for sale. Don't know if thats your thing. I always fancied an S8, (after watching Ronin) but I'm far too young. It would have to have a nitrous system with larger injectors though. Edited by flyingalexf68 |
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Posted: 15-October-2006 at 20:43 |
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Posted: 15-October-2006 at 14:46 |
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Who the hell would want one of those Luke? Way overpriced. Just stick it up for €20000 and you'll sell it today. Hope you do get what you want for it Luke. I'd love to take it myself. What are you going to buy? |
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lukeduke
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Posted: 15-October-2006 at 14:06 |
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good news Ivan!!! i'm still waiting for calls for my beast!!! advertised since June!
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Posted: 15-October-2006 at 11:40 |
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Congrats ivanovoitch. Don't know of any for sale but the 850is looks like a smashing car. Rading about them in BMW Car magazine at the moment. |
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Posted: 14-October-2006 at 22:46 |
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So who has a good obcene mid nineties BM for sale? Thinkin 740ish!
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Posted: 14-October-2006 at 22:30 |
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Back on Thread. 316Ti Sold! THREE AND A HALF MONTHS!
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Posted: 14-September-2006 at 15:06 |
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I was just being devils advocate ;)
You're totally correct - but I'm only saying that I don't believe them. I'd always judge the car on it's condition. My own 328Ci has no history - I bought it with small miles 3 years ago & serviced it since myself without doing a record - just reset as necessary. I judged the car on condition only. Don't get me wrong - I think there are LOADS of "straight" mechanics/technicians/garages/dealers - but you can't be sure. One without a history wouldn't put me off - many people pay "cash" and have no receipts - you'd generally know from the car whether it was abused or not. And of course, it can have a perfect history, perfect care & STILL BE A PILE OF DUNG!! I agree with you... BMWcare bmwcare@eircom.net |
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Posted: 14-September-2006 at 14:59 |
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I think the message here is the usual and sensible one of "Buyer Beware". Believe little of what you are told, try and cross check and corroborate anything that you are told, if there are no conflicts then make a rational decision based on the information and the condition based on physical inspection of the car. If there are any discrepencies walk away. Cars are like buses and trains, it might be inconvenient to wait but there'll be another along in a while. Paranoia can easily set in when the reality is that for every seller trying to screw you over there are a few legal, decent and honest sellers. The trick is to try and exercise enough common sense and judgement to buy from the latter more often than the former. Sooner or later we all get caught out by something we hadn't noticed when viewing or checking the car but you try to beat the law of averages. As regards servicing, I think we all have a story about something that should have been or that we asked to be done on a service and wasn't (and maybe charged for). Service industries (auto or otherwise) by their nature are dependent on people and that gives rise to the possibility of error, omission or downright sharp practice. Vigilence is required and complaints should be made when issues occur. That way, its more likely to highlight to the vendors that there may be a problem in their systems or processes for providing the service. If there are multiple occurrences and/or if there is an inadequate response to complaints made then vote with your feet. |
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Posted: 14-September-2006 at 14:02 |
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I take your point BMWcare but unfortunately if you look at it that way you'd never buy a used car again. After all, if you can't rely on the dealer to do what they say they are going to do then you're kind of screwed. The only option is to buy new and do all the work on it yourself. After all if you buy a 50k car that has never had a new oil filter, even if you do an inspection 2 it is likely to have suffered some mechanical damage to the engine that will reduce it's life. That damage may not show up when you buy it as wear only tends to show when it has got very bad. I know a lot of garages are a bit dodgy but not all are and many can be trusted. Oh and when I get work done on my car I always check that the parts I've paid for have been fitted. I've been had before now but unfortuately by the time I realised it was too late to prove it. Final point, if a car doesn't have any history what does that say about it? Sure a history can be faked but no history is just as bad. While you shouldn't always assume a cars history is genuine, a car without any is much more likely to have been abused. |
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Posted: 14-September-2006 at 12:39 |
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"genuine" - meant appears genuine
Hole in accounts or not - a dealer system is only as good as the guy doing the IT... A stack of invoices is a totally different matter - I'd agree with them [usually] How many people get or have got a "fake" invoice - shedloads... My original point still stands - If someone wanted to go to the effort and knew the right people they'd have everything to "produce" a history that would be backed up by phone calls to the dealer later... I'm being the devils advocate here, so don't take offence. Also, there are other issues - how about the E46 325i with 27K that had 2 stamps - one at 12K [OilService] and another at 26K [Inspection]. From 2 different [Dublin area dealers]. It had invoices, and was verified by phone calls. [I bought the car for a customer and they verified]. The last invoice showed a Cabin Filter & Engine Air Filter... When I was checking it before it went - both were filthy. Cabin you could [possibly] understand. But not the Engine one in 1,000 miles and 3 months... Or... The X5 that had 90K done... Broke down & I was called in to fix it. Full history from new [original owner still had it]. He broke down in the "Wild West" and was loathe to let anyone except his dealer touch it... He showed me the book and explained his concerns. While I was at it I noticed the fuel filter looked as if it was never changed... When owner came to collect he was "surprised". He searched and found chequebook stubs to back up the invoices and it was all present & correct... I cut open the filter in front of him and he went crazy--- it was the cause of his [expensive] breakdown. He sued both dealers in question as far as I know. How he got on I never heard. If I was buying a car for myself I'd throw away the history and do a full InspII regardless. Retail customers and sites/mags have this "main dealer history is REALLY NECESSARY" in their used car guides. In my opinion that's totally crap... It can be right, but it can also be wrong... BMWcare bmwcare@eircom.net |
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Posted: 14-September-2006 at 12:22 |
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Peter I think what bmcare is getting at is that the service book is basically a part number item and as such can be sourced or forged (although I think the replacement item from a dealer should have DUPLICATE printed across all pages). Getting a rubber stamp forged can't be too difficult if you are so minded. Supporting dealer invoices are a great support to the validity of the history and the confirmation with the dealer service manager is the icing on the cake. Edited by Dergside |
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