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PJSM3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-July-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 468 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:39 |
John you results look very impressive. Well done. When you mention avoiding using a sponge and chamois what is the alternative please? In regard to the sponge I've been using a lambswool type mitt. |
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sleeper
Really Senior Member II Original and STILL best Joined: 26-March-2004 Location: East Sussex/Kent border Status: Offline Points: 2098 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:51 |
oops, I guess I should stop using the scouring pad.... Great work john, I assume you do this professionally? |
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Sven
Groupie Joined: 10-January-2005 Location: Wiltshire Status: Offline Points: 90 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 07:53 |
Simply stunning!
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c76jon
Senior Member II Joined: 19-January-2005 Status: Offline Points: 178 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 09:46 |
hi all thanks for comments i dont do this professionally.its a passion and a continual learning curve iam a bit of a perfectionist and that drives me to achieve the bestpossible finish
for non damage cars should be washed,dried with top qulaity microfibre polish applied with and taken off with microfibre i am able to obtain microfibre from the best supplier in usa his towels are tested on blank cdrs to make sure they will not eave any mark on a cars surface 6 weeks ago i did a group buy on e30zone and peoples feedback was amazing iam gearing up to do another if anyones interested then let me know i know you can buy microfibre from halfords and the pound shop but you can buy oil off the market and then you can buy quality oil its just the same.there are massive differences in quality john |
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M3Nally
Really Senior Member II Joined: 28-May-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1302 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 10:50 |
Hi Jon,
I am very impressed with what you can do. I try to keep my Evo2 looking good using regular bucket, sponge and occasional polish with zymol, but get nothing like you have done. I don't have the time or ability. The paint on my car is pretty good, but what would you charge for a good going over for a day? Thanks I have sent a couple of pics of my evo2 Kevin |
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E30 M3 Macao blue metallic Evolution 2
E39 530d Sport Auto, Aegean blue Edition, Sat Nav, TV, comms pack etc. E39 540i Auto, Sat Nav, TV, leather, luxo barge |
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amorgan
Really Senior Member I Joined: 08-December-2003 Location: united kingdom Status: Offline Points: 288 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 11:50 |
Just to let you know that there is a guy who operates in the south east known as zymol john. Has done alot of cars for my boss (including gt3rs and a trusty g wagon). He basically uses the clays on the car then clenses it then uses the classic caruba wax. takes him approx 8-9 hours to do. Its not cheap though. 200gbp all in. I am thinking of having this done myself when the spring comes after seeing how c76jo's macau blue came up.
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c76jon
Senior Member II Joined: 19-January-2005 Status: Offline Points: 178 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 12:06 |
there is no zymol on my car zymol use waxes ie carnuba wax and its not very resiliant to the elements in comparison to synthetic sealants post some pics when its done. oh and 200 pounds is pretty cheap
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amorgan
Really Senior Member I Joined: 08-December-2003 Location: united kingdom Status: Offline Points: 288 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 12:29 |
Sorry John was not implying for a moment your car had any zymol products on it. I did get the full list of what you use last summer when you first posted your pics. If i do get it done I will post some pics for you.
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BMG M3
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-April-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 12:39 |
I'm lost now. I thought carnuba wax was all the rave and what I should be using. Not that I know anything as I use Halfords junk.Where is a good place to get Zaino products in the Uk and online please ?
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Rob L
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-October-2002 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 384 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 13:30 |
Fantastic paintwork Shep - you must be very pleased.
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1990 E30 M3 Sport Evolution
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amorgan
Really Senior Member I Joined: 08-December-2003 Location: united kingdom Status: Offline Points: 288 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 13:56 |
Just been on the zaino website. Prices are vey good indeed. They offer a pack with most of the products in it for about 116usd except the z8 product. I take it these are the correct products John. Also have you ever used these products without the porter cable and is there a great difference with the outcome. I think as they seem so reasonable I will opt for the DIY option. Adrian |
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c76jon
Senior Member II Joined: 19-January-2005 Status: Offline Points: 178 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 14:13 |
unfortunately you have looked at us site they will not post to anywhere but usa you have to thru uk distibutor here http://http://www.advancedcarproducts.com/products.asp?cat=1 1 zaino works well by hand but its all down to the prep this is what makes the difference zpc can be used by hand but not as effectively as by machine this is what removes swirls etc this is only zaino product that is abrasive ie capable of removing blemishes etc all other products are non abrasive and just enhance the surface you have prepped
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SFH3L
Really Senior Member I Joined: 03-October-2004 Location: Near Buckingham Status: Offline Points: 447 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 14:18 |
I have used Zymol/Swissol for some years now, and always start off by claying the car first. I use the products exactly as directed. My cars look really good, but nothing like Paul's Sport Evo. That is in a whole different league. I didn't see Paul's car "before", but frankly if it had been in showroom condition, then the pics we have here are miles better than that. Whether it is the superiority of the Zaino product, or using the Porter Cable, or a bit of both I don't know, but you'll never get rid of swirls and scratches with clay and Zymol. I don't know what you do for a living Jon, but seems like there's the potential of a fair few motors here! You could name your price. |
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SHEPSM3
Bavarian-Board Contributor UK Sport Evolution. Joined: 26-December-2004 Location: Bristol, UK. Status: Offline Points: 1934 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 14:38 |
Thank you everyone for your comments, Car still under shelter at my place of work, still makes me feel excited inside when I see it, you can't miss it! It still looks as good as when John left. Yes it pays to have a skill John, in case something happens with the dayjob! Sam, your SE looks stunning in your signature pics! Doesn't look like it needs any work? Johns hard work, and the products he used really did make the difference. |
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Daz
Really Senior Member II Joined: 03-August-2004 Location: Dubai Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 14:57 |
That is stunning! Showroom condition...
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c76jon
Senior Member II Joined: 19-January-2005 Status: Offline Points: 178 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 15:18 |
hi all clay is amazing.it will remove allsorts from surface that you cant even see.it does leave the surface incredibly smooth and i use it a lot its ideal to use on a swirl free finish because there is no point using abrasive if there are no marks to remove but as already said it will not remove swirls,spider webs etc zymol make some very very good products(except stuff sold at halfords) and their waxes are based around carnuba i have their concours wax here.yes it gives a nice finish but imho nowhere near that of zaino.its quite a personal thing whether you like wax or not but for me their are too many downsides i dont like the oiliness they can leave the longevity of the finish is very short lived the protection they offer is not in my mind comparable to a synthetic ie against salt,rain,sun etc they are very high maintenance too with regards to keeping that just waxed look wax has been around for a lot of years and it will always be around but i dont think it can perform as well or give the results zaino can john
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amorgan
Really Senior Member I Joined: 08-December-2003 Location: united kingdom Status: Offline Points: 288 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 15:29 |
Thanks for the website John. Think i will order a few bits and pieces. So to start is using a machine the only way to go to remove the swirl marks. If you dont mind I would like to know your opinion on what products and procedures to go for if to be done manually with the cars paint currently in average condition. thanks, Adrian |
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c76jon
Senior Member II Joined: 19-January-2005 Status: Offline Points: 178 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 15:35 |
you can remove swirls by hand but it is a labourious job .all depends how bad they are. you can never replicate with your hand what can be done by machine so quickly and continually and in such an even manner i have done cars by hand.i had a black rs1600i back in the day which i went onto show. 6 weeks it took me every night after work.i swore id never have a dark car again!!! i got there in the end and it did look good but it was hard work. all depends how much you are prepared to work at it.as i keep saying its all in the prep
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rr_ww
Really Senior Member II Joined: 04-May-2003 Location: Location Location Status: Offline Points: 971 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 16:46 |
Simply Jaw Dropping.
I KNOW my car will never look that good. Mainly because all the previous owners have T Cut it to death. And its now more grey than Black |
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billgates e30
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-January-2005 Location: Tyne & Wear Status: Offline Points: 924 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 17:55 |
here are a few pics of a zaino prepped car that was done by hand on original 110,000 mile 15 year old paint work sorry for the hijack and the large pics |
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