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c76jon
Senior Member II Joined: 19-January-2005 Status: Offline Points: 178 |
Topic: shepsevo3 pics Posted: 03-January-2006 at 16:22 |
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hi all
spent a long day with paul new years day after he had asked if i would look at some surface problems on paint of his sport evo only had the one day whereas id have liked to have spent 3 and i know i could take the finish on the car another level but we achieved a lot
car was prepped with porter cable dual action orbital and zaino products car has one coat of zaino z2 pro and one misting spray coat of z8 finale spray paul is a really nice guy.a genuine enthusiast .we were both happy with results. first before prep now pictures taken today outside and bear in mind how murky it has been so there is no brilliant sunshine aiding rflections and also these are next day and a little dust had settled
prob going to get told off about size of images i apologise but i think they are worth viewing i have reduced them massively john |
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stevesingo
Really Senior Member II Joined: 03-January-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 795 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 16:26 | |
Very nice, but wheres the satin skirts Shep?
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BMG M3
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-April-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 16:33 | |
Blimey ! Just what were you going to spend the other 2 days doing to it ??? I thought it pretty good when I saw it after Rally Day at Coomb in the Summer.If it is to the same standard as your own car I saw at Gaydon, then there can't be a thing wrong with it.
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kevin
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 29-November-2002 Location: Camberley, Surrey Status: Offline Points: 3189 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:00 | |
Flippin heck, that is just stunning.
I couldn't get mine to look like that if I spent a month on it and for you experts it a simple, polish with this, add a bit of that and then do a little of something else = car you have to wear sunglasses to look at it the dark. Well that's how it seems to me... I agree Paul is a top bloke but don't tell him.... |
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
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SHEPSM3
Bavarian-Board Contributor UK Sport Evolution. Joined: 26-December-2004 Location: Bristol, UK. Status: Offline Points: 1934 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:03 | |
Thanks John! Steve, Satin is for sheets! . There seemed to be alot of confusion on how "satin" the skirts should be, so I decided to go all glossy, and to be honest, I think it looks much better than satin. Not for a black car in my opinion. Brian, there were a few problems starting to appear with the top coat about the time you saw the car, and have tried different things, and people to try and sort it. Only John was able to sort it. I have to say that the car was nearing being stripped again for another re-paint, except it was going to be the paint manufacturers who were going to repaint it. As it is now, John has done a fantastic job on the car, and as long as I use all the zaino products he recommends and uses, the car will stay looking the same, if not better than it does now. John, as I've said on the E30Zone site, you are a star. I know you only had the car for a day, but you are welcome to spend as much time as you like on it. After seeing the results, I have ordered alot of zaino products to maintain the finish. We had a customer today who thought the car was brand new, untill he saw the number plates already fitted. That is great testimony to Johns hard work and zaino's products. John.......I don't know how you did it, you were there from 8am untill 6pm and you didn't use the toilet once!
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JC , e30 m3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 02-June-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 256 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:05 | |
Fantastic job!
In the first picture, is that a coating of dust or was the paint really as bad as it looked? I'd love my car to look that good but really don't know which products to use, do I really have to spend £100's on waxes etc..? I do have a rotary buffing machine (Halfords Cheapy Special) Any tips? I think I know it's going to involve copious amounts of elbow grease...... Cheers |
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jamie
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Karlp
Really Senior Member I Joined: 21-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 354 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:05 | |
That is one good looking car. That garage in the background looks like the one near the Castle Combe circuit Karl |
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SHEPSM3
Bavarian-Board Contributor UK Sport Evolution. Joined: 26-December-2004 Location: Bristol, UK. Status: Offline Points: 1934 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:12 | |
Karl, that's where I work. It looks a bit of a "dump" but its a great garage really, honest. This is where you will have to meet me with your washer bottle! Paul. |
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c76jon
Senior Member II Joined: 19-January-2005 Status: Offline Points: 178 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:12 | |
unfortunately you really do get what you pay for
the halfords cheapies are not doing this level of finish........no way
this is using an american branded product manufactured by PORTER CABLE incredible kit tho only available in 110v.this with the right pads etc and transformer you are looking at roughly 200 quid swirl removers,sealants/polish microfibre etc etc about another 150 quid i guess its not cheap but the finish speaks for itself.ive had my porter 5 years now and its best thing ive ever bought.it is not like a mop which can be dangerous to say the least as they spin in same position at massively high speeds and heat can burn thru paint in seconds i defy anyone to damage paint with porter. john |
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SHEPSM3
Bavarian-Board Contributor UK Sport Evolution. Joined: 26-December-2004 Location: Bristol, UK. Status: Offline Points: 1934 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:15 | |
Jamie, yes there was dust settled on the 1st pic, but you can see some of the surface scratching there.
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BMG M3
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-April-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:16 | |
Do you only use the Porter Cable several times a year, or is it safe to use all the time ?
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Karlp
Really Senior Member I Joined: 21-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 354 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:16 | |
That is no problem then - I sometimes even go to Merlin Motorsport on a Saturday. Karl |
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SHEPSM3
Bavarian-Board Contributor UK Sport Evolution. Joined: 26-December-2004 Location: Bristol, UK. Status: Offline Points: 1934 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:28 | |
John uses the Porter Cable all the time, even when applying the polish. So it seems it is totally safe to use it at all times. Karl, pop in and say hi, anytime. I am there most Saturdays. |
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c76jon
Senior Member II Joined: 19-January-2005 Status: Offline Points: 178 |
Posted: 03-January-2006 at 17:28 | |
primarily you use it to repair imperfections like swirls,spiderwebs,marring damage caused by sponges,chamois etc avoid chamois and sponge and you will anaoid countless damage to your paint so car would be done initially to remove all these.cars pick up marks and therefore you may spot repair but you can and i do apply polish with it you use several different grades of pads with it and one is specifically non abrasive and allows you to apply polish far better than by hand due to the fact the least polish you use the better and the hand cannot replicate the thinness that is achievable by the machine it is very versatile i even polish glass with it. but once you have done your initial pass and rid all the real nasties and you are happy with paint surface then as far as using it abrasively you would only spot repair and maybe every 12 months do a total pass over all panels. prep is the key and the longer spent getting surface right the better the finish once your chosen polish/wax has been applied
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Simon325i sport
Really Senior Member II Joined: 13-November-2003 Location: South Wales Status: Offline Points: 1022 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 04:13 | |
I called in on the morning when John was starting Paul's car, and I couldn't believe how badly scratched the paint surface was, the swirl marks in the paint were horrendous, and there were other various marks that I was pointing out, and Paul would explain that was were a leaf landed etc! All up the O/S of the car, there were some really bad scratches running up the length of the car, and Paul explained this was caused by the bushes at the side of his drive. As Paul said, he couldn't wash or polish the car for more bad scratches appearing constantly, and if it was me, I would have lost my patience with it, but John saved the day, and did a brill job with it and boosted Pauls love for the car! |
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Phil-C
Really Senior Member II Ex E30 M3 owner... Joined: 06-May-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 707 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 04:54 | |
Blimey.
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UweM3
Moderator Group Joined: 11-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5445 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 05:06 | |
c75jon you are unreal man!!
If I ever get into polising a car you will be my first call for advise. |
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Eamo
Moderator Group Joined: 13-May-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 3450 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 05:21 | |
that is savage jon!!!
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SFH3L
Really Senior Member I Joined: 03-October-2004 Location: Near Buckingham Status: Offline Points: 447 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 05:39 | |
Paul & Jon, That car looks absolutely fabulous! I cannot believe the surface finish, it's just amazing. Jon - you mention that chammies and sponges cause swirls when washing - what should we be using to wash the car then? I have a black SE just like Pauls (well, just like Paul's USED TO BE!) and have recently had it repainted, and I'm anxious not to spoil the pait if I can avoid it. What would you advise? Congrats though, that is truly stunning. |
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Mr London
Newbie Joined: 31-December-2005 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 7 |
Posted: 04-January-2006 at 06:29 | |
Hi all
Slightly confused. Am I reading this right that the car in question has been cut back / polished to provide the truly stunning finish - and not repainted??!?! Regards |
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