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Originally posted by phb10186 phb10186 wrote:

Yes I have that! Its above the glove box, with a cover over it, mounted very close to the cruise control box. Its about the size of a mobile phone, and it is skrewed to a bit of moulding to conceal the wiring there. It has the part NO: 61311373323 on my car.


http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=5382&mospi d=47199&btnr=41_0595&hg=41&fg=50&hl=27


can anyone tell me about it, thew bonnet did slam in between it starting and non-starting, can this box cause the car not to start? Is there a reset procedure, and if so what is it?



Phone your BM dealer and ask for someone who knows e24's. Your p/no confirms you have the slightly older model.
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does this do something with the fuel, or is it ignition???

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I was kinda hoping you'd got it started now Ben!

When you've got this sorted you are going to be the man for any E24's that fail to start!

Good luck, admire your persistence mate!


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Problem is i'm still not near.

Ivor is helping me out with an auto-electrician, but ive been so busy with work recently, the car has to take second place. I hope I can still sort it fairly soon, its been 10 weeks now.....

Still aquiring knowledge, and I can identify every box on the car now, so if you dont know what something is.... ask me, and ill probably be able to tell you, unles its not on my car.

But to be honest im kind of upset with the whole thing, as its been expensive and time consuming... and it still doesnt work. But YES I will get round to it when I can.

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funnily enough my 6 wouldn't start this morning!!

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Originally posted by Drew21 Drew21 wrote:

funnily enough my 6 wouldn't start this morning!!

ho hum



SSsshhhh.....they'll hear you &  all start playing up next........
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's alright, Carlos will be ready to attack the problem towards the end of the month....

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I bought the ball bearing that attatches to the flywheel today.... its about 4 mm in diameter, and supposedly turns on the flywheel and sends info to the ECU via the 2 flywheel sensors.

I cant imagine it is this causing my non-start problems, but I also cant inagine how it attatches to the flywheel... as it is so small and fiddly.

Has anyone else had to replace this piece... or indeed know what im talking about as It seems such an unlikely cause, and strange piece to be fitted on to a flywheel.

It looks like a small chrome ball bearing (well it is one).... Its like something that came out of a kids game, rather than something that fits on a car.

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could it be your dme relay playing up
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Originally posted by omega man omega man wrote:

could it be your dme relay playing up

Ah no, not again, we've been through this already!


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If it's an automatic, it's nothing like a ballbearing -
rather an odd shaped bit of steel.

What about the DME relay Rob? REckon it could be
that you know.
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drew, yes i recon, its the dme relay, just to get horsetan, going.
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seriously, it could be your top dead sensor as drew drop says, it needs to be checked if its fallen off. this alone would be a non starter alone.

 

 

 
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Originally posted by omega man omega man wrote:

just to get horsetan
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That doesn't require 12v or a relay.
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Can someone give me a part No for this bit of metal for the flywheel, my car is an auto... is there 1 or 2 of them on the flywheel (1 for each sensor)?

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There is no such thing - it's an integral part of the
flywheel and is not available on it's own.
Have you looked under the car yet, turned the engine
over and actually looked for it? It's a very obvious
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No, there is nothing under the car, especially not anything like that.

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I will be adding to this posting once I have had an auto-electrician take a look at the car in early December...watch this space.

 

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Hi,

I have a 635csi 1986 which had exactly the non starting problem ( cut going thru a corner). There wasn't a spark at the plugs although there was voltage at the coil and the engine turned over. I had 2 'expert auto electrical mechanics' look at it but eventually after 2 weeks i got a mobile autoelectrician to look at it and i left the keys with him, he rang me 1/2  hour later to say there was nothing wrong with the car and it started first time! I was having trouble with my battery at the time being drained but i still do not know why it decided to start again all he did was put a booster on the battery because the it was flat after many attempts to start it.
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I take it you had a duff battery, and that it wasnt turning over. If you read this thread its quite interesting how this fault has continued to defy me, and others that have looked at the car.

My battery is absolutely fine, and it turns over great, fuel OK and everything else I can see is fine. Every relay, fuse and sensor is OK..... there is power to the coil, but nothing to the plugs, which I have learned might be an 'ECU non-fire' problem. Put simply; there is a part of the flywheel that may have fallen off.

I havnt seen this yet, nor am I absolutely convinced that this is the problem. Everything I have tested on the car has either been checked and works... or has been replaced! Thus the problem is likely to be simple (i.e its not a ecu or other control box). Its now just a matter of finding where the fault is, and thats why I need an auto electrician to go through the car on a wire to wire basis, and test every circuit and sensor.

But... I have been busy at work, and so unfortunately the car has not started since August 28th!!!!!!!

Enough said

-Ben



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