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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-December-2005 at 06:06
Waiting in anticipation, cheers guys for being up for this
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-December-2005 at 06:27

Hmm, the stuff's blue in colour, and Simon's sample jar hasn't arrived in the post yet......


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-December-2005 at 07:39

It's been sent but post is slow at the mo.

 

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PS. Where has our Ametech friend gone?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-December-2005 at 08:24
Originally posted by oilman oilman wrote:

Where has our Ametech friend gone?

Which one? Mark, who used it? Or the other fella who was promoting it?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-December-2005 at 08:27

The guy who sells it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-December-2005 at 09:18

Greetings, yes I know this is my first post but I have been following the discussion with much interest. I come from the Toyota Supra MK3 (not that dodgily shaped bubble MK4 thing) forum, But before you all throw rotten veg at me I do have a 1989 BMW750i (with a VERY dodgy steering rack, thus SORNed).

We are having a similar discussion (http://www.forum.mkiiisupra.net/showthread.php?t=9400 if your interested) and are comming up against the same sort of questions.

I was thinking of trying this stuff myself, but was concerned about it clogging up oilways. But reading the speck, am I not right in thinking that this stuff will only work when it is struck, crushed, smashed or pressed against another surface? In which case, oil pathways would be left unaffected

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21-December-2005 at 11:04
Originally posted by theonefromthesk theonefromthesk wrote:

.....I was thinking of trying this stuff myself, but was concerned about it clogging up oilways. But reading the speck, am I not right in thinking that this stuff will only work when it is struck, crushed, smashed or pressed against another surface? In which case, oil pathways would be left unaffected

Well now, when I get to give Simon my sample  sure there will be a full analysis, properly written up.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-December-2005 at 07:09
I'd be very interested to see the analysis results. For some dumb liquid to intelligently fill in the wear points and leave stuff it mustn't fill in alone seems too good to be true....

Particularly as you have to add it every oil change?!
I wonder how it copes with the rings whizzing up and down the worn, oval bores that scraped off the metal in the first place -- and I wonder how it knows which oil film it is (fleetingly) in is a big end journal oil film and it must stick to the crank or softer metal of the bearing and chemically offload its iron/steel/alloy payload. And what metal to use. And where does the metal go that it cannot offload in the right place ... little metal sludge piles?

I'd also love to know how it's going to grind the valves in...

It's a bit like the psychology of Slick50 versus the $20M lawsuit reality (http://www.bmwe30.net/cgi-bin/datacgi/dat abase.cgi?file=articles&report=view&ID=00014&Sec tion=14)

I expect the best idea is to rebuild when required and use synthetic oil .

Skeptic - moi?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-December-2005 at 07:36
Interesting reading a little more..
Originally posted by Brucey Brucey wrote:

Incidentally if these micro-particles are in the burnt oil (if it burns any, then again maybe you are not going to bother unless it does...) on a cat-equipped car I can't imagine for a moment that it will  do the cat any good whatsoever- they are easily poisoned.

Worn engines do use a bit of oil - valve seals & rings. Remember how you can't put leaded petrol in a catalyst car? It poisons the catalyst, I can't imagine the lead in the new wonder additive (one ingredient is lead) not having the same effect....
You only notice catalysts at MOT time and I would expect the degradation of efficiency will be steady and consistent dependent on your engine's appetite for oil - perhaps 12months to 24months before it gets poisoned enough to fail that test (not a test at full flow of course!).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-December-2005 at 08:02
And thirdly (god I'm bored today, disease stops play..)
Originally posted by enginerestore enginerestore wrote:

Just to say how good Ametech Engine Restore Oil proved to be in a BMW 530i V8. These V8 engines fitted to earlier 5 series and 7 series are renowned for bore wear. We told the customer he would require a new bottom end to cure his fault (short motor £2500). I then saw Ametech and bought it. With the customers authority we put it in his engine with new oil and filter and told him to run it and return after 500 miles. We were amazed at the result. That is why I am ordering more and giving the customers an option – a new bottom end £2500 or a can or two of Ametech. All have said ‘Ametech’ please…Regards JRMorgan (owner)

Since when do you need a new bottom end for bore wear?? I'll not be taking my car to that garage.. ;)

Originally posted by enginerestore enginerestore wrote:

...the cylinder walls do not become smooth with RESTORE. I am talking about burnishing at a microscopic level. After RESTORE the honing is untouched and still clearly visible, which is of course what holds the lube on the cylinder walls.

So if this fixes badly worn bores on the 3 litre V8 - how does it do this when they are 'burnished at a microscopic level'? On a worn bore you'll need to build up more a honing thickness to help, and you'll also need super-intelligent liquid metal bits that form a good honing pattern... too... err... Doh!

I'm wondering if this additive is a simple thickening agent (viscosity modifier) - that would rather explain the bottle per oil change and quieter engine. In which case it might be easier just to sell it as such...

As a wise Scotsman once said "You cannay change the laws of physics!" ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-December-2005 at 17:48

Originally posted by Globulator Globulator wrote:

....I'm wondering if this additive is a simple thickening agent (viscosity modifier) - that would rather explain the bottle per oil change and quieter engine. In which case it might be easier just to sell it as such...

Perhaps that's all it really is. The automotive lubricant equivalent of cornflour....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-December-2005 at 17:53

Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:

Originally posted by Globulator Globulator wrote:

....I'm wondering if this additive is a simple thickening agent (viscosity modifier) - that would rather explain the bottle per oil change and quieter engine. In which case it might be easier just to sell it as such...
Perhaps that's all it really is. The automotive lubricant equivalent of cornflour....

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Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:

Perhaps that's all it really is. The automotive lubricant equivalent of cornflour....

Don't you mean sawdust?
At least cornflour and sawdust float... with copper silver and lead I keep getting images of those old tins of silver Humbrol Enamel where all the microscopic bits of aluminium end up in a gunky mess at the bottom... of course the emulsifier will be working fine in the bottle but I wouldn't trust it once mixed with a bunch of oil and stuffed inside an engine for a few thousand miles... reminds my of cleaning out the oil strainer on my old beetle and checking out the metal ooze formed by excess wear of the bearings.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-January-2006 at 11:54

I've not got the sample yet.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-January-2006 at 12:18

having trouble producing the goods horsey?!?

(watch he doesn't send you the wrong sample jar either simon - get someone else to open it first!)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-January-2006 at 13:59
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-January-2006 at 14:41

Erm no sample yet so basically no.

Maybe Horsetan sent it back for a refund ;)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-January-2006 at 16:57

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AMETECH ENGINE RESTORE OIL really works - Quentin Willson Sunday Mirror Dec18 and Jan 6th Page 56 regular Sunday column 

Tim Crux just sent us this email: Hi Dave, I thought you might be interested in my story. I own a Ford Galaxy TDi, 1999 vintage with 135,000 miles on clock. Over the last 6-9 months there has been a steady decline in performance, accompanied by an ever increasing amount of ‘smoking’ (blue exhaust smoke, indicative of unburned diesel). This got so bad that I was embarrassed to drive the car – when queuing in traffic this summer other drivers would be forced to wind up their windows to avoid being asphyxiated. After seeking professional advice, I took the car to a specialist fuel injection company. £450 later I had a Galaxy which went a lot faster (new Mass airflow sensor fitted) and smoked quite a bit less (timing was found to be 4.5 degrees retarded), but still sent plumes of blue smoke into the atmosphere on acceleration. The fuel injection guys could only suggest that compression (or lack of it) was the cause, but that was going to cost me another £150 to find out. When I asked how much the cure to compression problems was going to cost, their reply was £2 – 3,000!!! I took the car home in a pretty depressed state of mind, thinking that I had a more or less worthless piece of junk on my hands. Smoking as it was I was unlikely to be able to sell it, and was unsure if it would even pass a MOT emissions test. In desperation I searched the internet, and found a link to your eBay store. £27 later I had 500ml of Ametech, did an oil and filter change to which your product was added. The next day my wife and I left Essex for a short break in Cornwall. 200 miles into the journey we stopped for coffee at services. Upon restarting I noticed there was absolutely no sign of any smoking! 7 days and another 1,000 miles later, still no smoke. Galaxy goes like stink; its returning 46 mpg (never did better than 42 in previous 5 years of ownership) and still not a trace of any blue smoke no matter how hard I accelerate. I have to confess to originally being extremely sceptical to the claims made for your product, but it really does work!! I now have a car which should comfortably fetch me £4,000 on part exchange as opposed to a vehicle no one would touch with a bargepole.Thank you, and keep up the good work! Regards Tim Crux Dec 2nd 2005. Quentin Willson even talked with Tim and confirmed this story in his column 18th Dec Page 56 in the Sunday Mirror. Quentin Willson also said that in his experience Ametech Restore is QUOTE "the only additive (he has) ever found to work." Sunday Mirror Page 56. Jan 8th 2006
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