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oilman
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 09:52 | ||
Want to send me a spice jar full for testing just to see what it contains? If you do then PM me and we'll organise it. Cheers Simon
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Horsetan
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 10:59 | ||
Errm, got a spare spice jar? |
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oilman
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 11:03 | ||
Anything small and clean will do so that the tests are fair. I only need a very small amount to test. Cheers Simon
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Horsetan
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 11:34 | ||
How many ml? 10ml? 50ml? 100ml? |
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oilman
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 11:35 | ||
50 to 100 ml. Cheers Simon
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Brucey
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 14:24 | ||
Horsey, please do a compression test before, and any other test you can think of (dyno would be nice), same again after. hope it goes well.... cheers
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Horsetan
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Posted: 15-December-2005 at 15:28 | ||
I don't carry compression testing gear, so would have to borrow this off my mechanic. Since he does all my oil changes anyway, this makes sense
I'm still not happy that an autobox'd car should be revved when standing. After a dyno test, I'd be needing a psychiatric test |
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sleeper
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Posted: 16-December-2005 at 04:39 | ||
err, horse, the car isn't standing - technically, we know it is, but it thinks otherwise! |
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Horsetan
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Posted: 16-December-2005 at 11:41 | ||
But...it IS standing. It's......not......going.....anywhere. Therefore it must be stationary, yes? |
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Sohlman
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Posted: 16-December-2005 at 11:50 | ||
Yeah, But the speedo will be reading something around 100+ MPH and the wheels will be turning prety fast. |
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Brucey
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Posted: 16-December-2005 at 17:36 | ||
can't get accurate figures with an auto normally because of the lack of drive from the wheels back through the transmission. But testing on the same dyno a few days or weeks apart is likely good enough for a comparison.... cheers
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Horsetan
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Posted: 17-December-2005 at 11:03 | ||
Just out of the box: 1 litre - sufficient to cater for a 3.5 to 4-litre engine. Looks like the kind of packaging you'd get olive oil in. Or balsamic vinegar. Or possibly even sundried tomatoes. Closer look at the posting box reveals the stuff seems to have been made in Belgium, a country better known for b*st*rd-strength beer, chocolates, seafood, and paedophiles. On reading the instruction leaflet that comes with the can, I can already see that Ametech could potentially be a very expensive proposition. This is partly because it is not a "one-shot-and-forget-it for 50,000 miles" palliative like Slick-50 or ZX1; on the contrary, you are enouraged to add one can at every oil change, so if you are in the habit of changing oil every 3500 to 4000 miles like I do, then £40 for a litre of Ametech every time is going to make less sense. Having said that, it's either that or a potentially-closer engine rebuild. Oh the agony of choice. I wanted to try Ametech, not because my engine's knackered (it had a new head at 130,000 miles, and is now on 155,000 miles total), but because I had read of Mark's encounter with Ametech. Mark, for those who don't know him, posts occasionally on the Forum as "bmw1066", a South Coast-based (Hastings or Battle, I would guess) E23 enthusiast who runs "The Red Baron", a 1981 735i. Basically, he didn't believe Ametech's claims much either, but sportingly stuck a litre down his engine, and now swears by the stuff. (I have also bought another half-litre to test in my sister's 1993 Golf GL, which has done just over 130,000 miles on its original 1781cc engine.) Simon ("oilman" of Opie Oils) has asked for a test measure of 100ml to be sent to him for analysis, so I've now got to find an empty jar to put it in. Should it be Olivio, or Tesco's Balsamic? Or Encona's West Indian Chilli Sauce? The oil change on my Six is likely to be in the next fortnight, mechanic's spare time permitting, so let's see what happens. Apparently, users have to run the car gently for about 100 miles or so after adding Ametech, with another check done at 1000 miles. Not entirely sure if that's enough of a distance to notice any difference. Ametech will be combined with my usual Castrol Magnatec 10W-40, picked up from my local Euro Car Parts warehouse for decidedly less than what Halfrauds charges for it. The new oil filter is of course BMW's standard one. Simon O, who has clearly spent much of his entire career in the oil supply industry, has every right to be sceptical of whether these palliatives actually work. (I went through Slick-50 and ZX1 in my Six, both with no ill effect, but very little discernable improvement either, particularly in the fuel consumption department.) Simon will attempt to demonstrate through scientific analysis why Ametech does not or will not work in the way we would expect it to, whilst punters like me will attempt to be the everyday test-bed.
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oilman
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Posted: 18-December-2005 at 08:16 | ||
Horsetan, Before you go putting this stuff in your engine, why don't you let me find out what it is made of only it may contain nasties. Our friend has gone very quiet since I asked him to send me some. Cheers Simon
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Horsetan
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Posted: 18-December-2005 at 12:50 | ||
I'm still trying to locate a suitable jar, Simon! Something tough enough not to get broken by the sterling efforts of the Royal Fail at Xmas.... |
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oilman
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Posted: 18-December-2005 at 13:34 | ||
PM me your address and I'll send you a sample jar. Cheers, Simon
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Horsetan
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Posted: 18-December-2005 at 13:37 | ||
Excellent |
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chasseur
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Posted: 18-December-2005 at 15:15 | ||
Excellant indeed , big thanks to Horsetan & Oilman ,I cant wait for the results
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Horsetan
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Posted: 18-December-2005 at 16:49 | ||
It had better be a thorough analysis. If it contains some real horrors, then a full expert report will be needed to get one's money back..... |
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sleeper
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Posted: 20-December-2005 at 04:27 | ||
I could also test this on my octavia diesel - if the product is suitable for TD's? She has 185k up at the mo, and believe me she is slacker than (think sting) roxannes giblets!!
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oilman
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Posted: 20-December-2005 at 05:58 | ||
Before you shell out your hard earned cash, let's see what this stuff is all about chemically. Cheers Simon
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