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SHEPSM3
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Topic: Silverstone 26/09 Posted: 29-September-2005 at 14:52 |
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I did that in a Formula Vauxhall Lotus back in 1989/1990, through beckets, snatched the wrong gear which locked the rear wheels, made me tighten the line into the 1st left apex, which the rumbles were more like speed ramps back then, launched me in the air and I landed on the osf wheel on the right bit of beckets on an equally high speed ramp....errr...curb. Lots of damage! And a bit more experience. From then on, I've always heeled and toed on the track. |
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BMG M3
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-April-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Posted: 29-September-2005 at 13:54 | |
It was awesome fun Wayne ! For some reason I did grab for the roll cage when your friend wrong slotted a gear coming down the box, and I'm guessing, locked the rear wheels, snapping the car sideways at about 70mph Errr. He did tell you he had done that , didn't he ??? |
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v8m3
Senior Member II Joined: 07-November-2004 Location: birmingham Status: Offline Points: 186 |
Posted: 29-September-2005 at 11:04 | |
next time i go i want some breaks always thought they were crap now i know why, they supplied the wrong master cylinders you need three ton of leg strenght just to slow down they are only 4 sizes to big and will do 2 1/2 pistons ill have them porsches then the only place they got near was on the brakes i was braking 150/200 yards before them destroyed them out the bend and down hanger straight, i too would love to do donnington also cadwell park , fantastic circuit and the scenery is stunning only did about 40 laps and my tires are scrap. oh yes brian have you recovered from your experience ?by the way i own the car and cant get a copy anywhere wayne gt3s eat your heart out Edited by v8m3 |
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SFH3L
Really Senior Member I Joined: 03-October-2004 Location: Near Buckingham Status: Offline Points: 447 |
Posted: 29-September-2005 at 08:53 | |
I know that Siverstone is different to, say, Donnington, but not really a boring circuit, as there is now quite a lot of technical stuff as well as the older style sweepers. My car definitely prefers Stowe, Copse and Bridge to those interminable last two corners. You seem to lean right over on the front outside corner and just wait for fine weather before daring to apply any power, otherwise the weight goes straight to the back and you understeer to the outside of the track. I thought the day was a fabulous one, and hope to go back again. Perhaps we could alternate the CSL Track day with Silverstone and Donnington? |
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Sam.
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UweM3
Moderator Group Joined: 11-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5445 |
Posted: 28-September-2005 at 17:56 | |
yes, a big THANKS!
Especially to Richard that he shared his car with us. Must have been a lot of stress for him to run the engine in with a break every two laps and watch the water temp gauge raising to 100deg till the passenger was belted up! |
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kevin
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Posted: 28-September-2005 at 17:29 | |
Paul,
I have probably said this before but it is worth repeating. Like you I was expecting it to be a relatively easy circuit especially in a low powered car like an E30 M3 but the reality was very, very different as it is very technical and the straights seemed to be much shorter than I has planned for. It was very satisifying to got the odd corner right I will be back again like a shot. A big, big thanks to everybody who made it possible and profitable, a hard line to draw. Thank you. |
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
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SHEPSM3
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Posted: 28-September-2005 at 17:05 | |
I know alot of race drivers, and the like, say the Grand Prix circuit is boring. I didn't think so. I didn't think hanger straight was as long as it looked on TV either. I think the width of the circuit gives you a false sence of security and lurred you into turning in to stow and bridge too early. Get them right, and these corners are brilliant. I didn't, and never have driven the circuit, but as a passenger I could tell what it would be like to drive this circuit. Hopefully the BMWCC will be there again next year, and hopefully on the GP circuit. If so, then I'll be one of the first in the queue to book.
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M3DTM
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Posted: 28-September-2005 at 14:26 | |
So what was it like in the DTM M3??? John |
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M3Nally
Really Senior Member II Joined: 28-May-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1302 |
Posted: 28-September-2005 at 11:55 | |
Here are some of the ones i took.
Just picked up a mag, Practical Performance Car with an article on the Jagermeister car. |
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E30 M3 Macao blue metallic Evolution 2
E39 530d Sport Auto, Aegean blue Edition, Sat Nav, TV, comms pack etc. E39 540i Auto, Sat Nav, TV, leather, luxo barge |
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M3Nally
Really Senior Member II Joined: 28-May-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1302 |
Posted: 28-September-2005 at 04:44 | |
I really enjoyed the day.
The laps with Sabine were entertaining, as others have said, mostly sideways and offline overtaking others. She is so aggressive. She said the tyres went off after 2 laps! What do they use on the Ring taxis then or does she take it easy? I spoke to one of the chaps changing the M5 tyres and he said the Contis were the only tyres approved for the M5. I also enjoyed a couple of laps in Richards ex- Soper DTM car, lovely noise and so poised. It was the noise of some of the cars that I love. The Benson & Hedges car, V8 M5's, the white D2 DTM was good. You gotta love the orange Jagermeister with the V8, awesome quality of build, congrats to who owns it. I'll put up some pics when i have time. Kevin |
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E30 M3 Macao blue metallic Evolution 2
E39 530d Sport Auto, Aegean blue Edition, Sat Nav, TV, comms pack etc. E39 540i Auto, Sat Nav, TV, leather, luxo barge |
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Jim M3
Senior Member I Joined: 19-May-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 143 |
Posted: 28-September-2005 at 04:13 | |
Hi all, had a good day on Monday, some great cars on display/track. I have quite a few pictures from the day, anyone help me get them on the forum? Jim. |
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rattusM3
Senior Member II Joined: 06-March-2005 Location: Wiltshire / Surrey Status: Offline Points: 200 |
Posted: 28-September-2005 at 04:01 | |
Good day out. Nice to meet the usual suspects. Thanks for the rides Steve and Kevin. So what's the next step Steve, Launch Control? Kevin |
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SFH3L
Really Senior Member I Joined: 03-October-2004 Location: Near Buckingham Status: Offline Points: 447 |
Posted: 28-September-2005 at 03:25 | |
Glad to see Richie got a pic of the pile of M5 wheels behind the pits. There was one of them that was really chewed. We got a ride with Sabine, and it was awesome - 140+ on the hanger straight, and sideways through Stowe. My son is only nine, and had a few sessions in my antique CSL - after Sabine, the old car didn't quite do it for him! A good day though. I didn't take many pics, but will post when I get the chance. |
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SHEPSM3
Bavarian-Board Contributor UK Sport Evolution. Joined: 26-December-2004 Location: Bristol, UK. Status: Offline Points: 1934 |
Posted: 27-September-2005 at 19:00 | |
Great Pics Richie, I especially like the one with Sabine setting the M5 up nicely at the complex (if thats right?)
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Richie
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Posted: 27-September-2005 at 18:15 | |
Guys,here's all the pics I took on the day. I'm sure you'll all find yourself among them somewhere.
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Rob L
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-October-2002 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 384 |
Posted: 27-September-2005 at 17:33 | |
Cheers for that info John - you certainly know your results! |
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thepits
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Posted: 27-September-2005 at 15:22 | |
Anyone got any pictures of the cavalcade? my orange ball is waiting! Edited by thepits |
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kevin
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 29-November-2002 Location: Camberley, Surrey Status: Offline Points: 3189 |
Posted: 27-September-2005 at 14:48 | |
Rob, For me it is the closeness of the armco that makes the NS much more personal and involving than GP circuits.
I really, really enjoyed Silverstone. To be honest I was expecting it to be a bit dull particularly in a low powered E30 M3 but it was a track I needed to do. So I was pleasently surprised and would jump at the chance to do it again. Cheers |
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
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robmug
Senior Member II Joined: 02-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 243 |
Posted: 27-September-2005 at 14:14 | |
I've not driven Silverstone so can't comment on personal experience; I have driven the 'ring (I think I'm up to about 35 laps so far...) and love it, but would like some big run-off areas... |
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M3DTM
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Posted: 27-September-2005 at 13:10 | |
Sorry, Soper came fifth that year behind Ravaglia (1st in M3), Niedzwiedz (Cossie), Giroix (M3), and Thiim (Merc). He did come 2nd at Hockenheim (1st heat), won Nurburgring (both heats), 2nd at Avus (1st heat) and 2nd at Nurburgring (2nd heat) later that year. In 1990 Steve was fourth behind Stuck (1st in Audi), Cecotto (M3), and Thiim (Merc). That year he won both heats at the Nurburgring. In 1991 Soper ended fifth again behind Biela (Audi), Ludwig (Merc), Stuck (Audi), and Cecotto (M3). His last year with the M3 was 1992 when he ended 9th, although he won 2 heats, one at Avus and one at the Norisring. Oh yes and he started his M3 career (coming from the Cossies) with a 2nd place at Wunstorf in 1988. Sorry, Steve was my favourite touring car racer. One of his best performances was when he drove in the BTCC again in the 320i. In one of the races I have on video he started from the back of the grid and just stormed through the field to help his team mate. What a racer. John |
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