AC Schnitzer suspension - worth it? |
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Nick
Bavarian-Board Contributor BMWCC Area Organiser Yorks & Humber Joined: 21-October-2002 Location: God’s own county... Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1319 |
Topic: AC Schnitzer suspension - worth it? Posted: 10-December-2002 at 07:03 |
I believe it was traded in against the Porsche.. but that is all I know... I didn't have enough money so I didn't pursue it. Nick |
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pottsy
Senior Member II Joined: 19-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 181 |
Posted: 09-December-2002 at 22:17 |
Who has got it and where is it??????
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John W
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Posted: 27-November-2002 at 20:47 |
8 grand? That is amazing. If I could sell my road car today, I would bite his arm off.
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo 1990 E30 M3 http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/ |
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pottsy
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Posted: 27-November-2002 at 20:19 |
Is it viewable on a web site somewhere???
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Nick
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Posted: 27-November-2002 at 18:26 |
The car is being sold in a hurry to make way for a 911 that he has bought.
....only £8 grand... and it's just as I sold it, except for a few more miles on the clock and all that extra kit he has put on the engine... you get all the original gubbins as well if you want to change it all back.
... serviced and ready to go
... bargain or what?
...this is the same car that I sold to him for 10k earlier this year, just wish I could afford to buy it back.
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John W
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Posted: 24-November-2002 at 21:22 |
The car would be an excellent buy for sure. Needs the cats removing though!
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo 1990 E30 M3 http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/ |
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Nick
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Posted: 24-November-2002 at 19:43 |
That was only this week... he has decided that now he would rather sell the M3 and get a 911.. Like I said before, you should aquire it on my behalf! |
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John W
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Posted: 24-November-2002 at 10:36 |
Did he offer it to you before or after he installed the Motec kit? After reading the article in Circuit Driver, it sounded like he had decided not to bother with a 911 after all because the Motec conversion was so good. No doubt if he wants to sell it, he will not have to pay for advert space in his magazine!
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo 1990 E30 M3 http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/ |
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Nick
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Posted: 22-November-2002 at 18:50 |
Quote: Originally posted by John W on 21-November-2002 Because he has asked if I want it back so that he can buy a 911.... If I had not spent his money, then I wouldn't hesitate... then again if I hadn't sold it along with all of my other 'precious things' I wouldn't have been able to buy Manor Farm. If there is a way then I will find it... if not you could add it to your collection and sell it to me once I had saved up enough... after all it really is the 'best' one out there. |
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John W
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Posted: 21-November-2002 at 22:35 |
http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/warped_rotors_myth.htm Here's the warped disc myth page. |
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo 1990 E30 M3 http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/ |
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John W
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Posted: 21-November-2002 at 22:26 |
Here's the site of the Americans who me and Roops (Lancelot) got our brake cooling kit from. Nick is right though, you could make it yourself. I would buy their backing plates for convenience possibly. http://www.bimmerworld.com/catalog/brake/e30_installation.htm |
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo 1990 E30 M3 http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/ |
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John W
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Posted: 21-November-2002 at 22:24 |
How do you know it's up for sale? It would be an excellent buy for someone. Your car was already superb, and with the Motec installed.....bloody hell. Buy it back, Nick. Make him a daft offer.
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo 1990 E30 M3 http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/ |
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Nick
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Posted: 21-November-2002 at 22:12 |
So you have realised that brake judder is not warped discs, it is cooked pads. It can also come from the disc not being mounted perfectly squarely onto the hub, you will notice this if it gets OK again when it has all cooled down. Brake ducting is def. a good upgrade, and you can easily fabricate your own with kitchen extractor ducting. I found out that Mintex 1155 and 'cheap' non BMW discs were the best combo... the discs wear out quicker but stop the car just as well.
Oh... and have you seen that my old car that I sold to Circuit Driver is back up for sale... just wish I could justify buying it back!
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MarkD
Senior Member I Joined: 15-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 127 |
Posted: 21-November-2002 at 20:33 |
Looks like it will be Schnitzer for me after all!
I'm not going to be buying it till the new year anyway. Even then it's not going to be fitted to my current car - I'm going to save it till I've bought a Sport Evo (and that's about 18 months away!) by which time I'll likely have bought the anti-roll bar kit as well. I might consider the upgraded brake ducting as suggested by Jon W & Pottsy (together with the usual mods that I've had done to my current car: Super Blue flud, braided lines, Mintex pads etc.) Upgrading the master cylinder to 25mm variety might also help - anybody tried it? From the description of this ducting it sounds like the same sort of thing I've seen fitted to ex-DTM racecars (tubing from duct to centre of brake disc) which should help with places like Donington. Thanks for all the comments. Mark |
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jaseb
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Posted: 21-November-2002 at 20:28 |
I knew you'd been drinking Pottsy, hic, luckily I have too! Thanks for the call, will be doing offsest mounts before selling my car in favour of the sport evo or anything else! |
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pottsy
Senior Member II Joined: 19-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 181 |
Posted: 21-November-2002 at 19:43 |
Okay heres my 2 pennyworth. My car had standard (adjustable damping) suspension. My changes have been
If anyone is interested in the brake article give me a shout and I'll try and find, then post it.
Hope I didnt blather too long - nice red wine.... |
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John W
Really Senior Member II Joined: 01-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 630 |
Posted: 21-November-2002 at 14:51 |
Mark, The best suspension for your needs may well be ACS. I was talking to Geoff Steel Racing the other day and they seem to have AP Racing big brakes sussed. Give them a ring and ask for Will. He is very clued up about it. They use AP brakes on their race cars in the Khumo Championship, and they have fitted the gear lots of times. If I buy AP, I will go to them, and ask them to fit it as well. |
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo 1990 E30 M3 http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/ |
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MarkD
Senior Member I Joined: 15-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 127 |
Posted: 20-November-2002 at 21:16 |
As I though there's a wide variety of opinions on E30 M3 suspension choices!
I am not after a pure track orientated suspension - just something slightly tauter and more responsive than the standard (for the occasional track visit) without destroying practicallity or too much comfort for regular road use - basically what the ACS system is said to offer? I tried the M/L trackmeister in the past and don't like the way it sits too low at the back. As for big brakes does anybody know if you can fit 4-pot AP calipers with 300-315mm discs under std 16" wheels? Mark |
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jaseb
Senior Member II Joined: 11-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 237 |
Posted: 20-November-2002 at 08:51 |
I would agree on the brakes front - big brakes and the balls to watch the guy in front brake then leave it a couple more seconds and then shuv the middle pedal, followed by cornering under ABS... Of course I did that in my 7 and went spinning merrily across the grass or gravel at Oulton, Llandow, Silverstone and probably a couple of others that I can't remember! More seriously it does make one of the biggest improvements for a driver learning his track driving ropes (like me) IMO. |
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John W
Really Senior Member II Joined: 01-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 630 |
Posted: 19-November-2002 at 20:14 |
Nick, How's tricks? I have the ML Trackmeister stuff on my car. It has negative camber at the front, but just looking at the car, it would appear there is just as much negative camber at the rear probably just due to the thing being lowered. The reason I was asking Lancelot the question is that I have had a passenger ride in his car at Donington. His car has coil-overs and it really does the bends well, although he is a way better driver than me. He raves about the set-up. However, your point about messing with settings seems valid but this is what Lancelot likes doing. He has racing experience and therefore has experience of setting cars up properly. Me? Well my experience runs to arsing about with my tyre pressures. For now, I'm happy enough with my set up. Chris Wadseley drove my car around Donington and he said it handled just fine. I'm going to think about big brakes though. As my car is now, I think this would get my car round the circuit quicker than any other development. What do you reckon? |
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo 1990 E30 M3 http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/ |
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