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    Posted: 10-May-2005 at 13:03
Was having a browse on auto trader to see what kind of prices were being commanded by 525e's - not that I want to sell - and was very pleased to see one up for 1200 quid. Unrealistic perhaps, but someone might pay it. However, I was a little shocked and bemused to come across this fairly flat and unassuming looking e12 520 with a quite unbelievable price on the screen. Anyone willing to have a punt?



Yes - that does say £1995. For a brown 25 year old e12. Hmmmm. Nice, but no thanks.
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No you must be reading it wrong. £ 19.95.!!!!
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The only E12 with real 'classic' value has got to be the original 1980/81 M535i. I am biased here as I own one. However, £2k for a brown 1979/80 520 does seem to be somewhat unrealistic. Even if it has low miles and a good history I do not believe that it will be top of most people's shopping list.

A an aside, does anybody have an idea on E12 M535i values, not that I am planning to sell.....?
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Originally posted by Martin325iSport Martin325iSport wrote:

A an aside, does anybody have an idea on E12 M535i values, not that I am planning to sell.....?

£3.5k for a clean unmolested one, if such a car exists today?

what are your thoughts value wise?

 
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I'd be pleased with a value of £3.5k for a good one. The problem with the E12 M535i is that with only 450 or so RHD examples originally imported and most of these since crashed or rusted away over the last 25 years, it is difficult to value them. People without the BMW anorak tend to still confuse them with the later and less desirable (in my book) E28 M535i for which any price over £1,500 is seen as high. I certainly plan to keep mine for the long term due to its rarity as the first proper 'M' produced road car, its classic looks and I enjoy driving it!

 
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That particular car has been there at that price for 6 months +, so I'm guessing that its probably at the high end of the price range. 

Although in fairness it has come from a 21 year ownership, indicates an fsh and has 58k miles, so if it is as described, they are thin on the ground at this stage.
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I'm looking for a really tidy E28 if anybody knows of one.. not so worried about the spec.. just that it has to be in tip top shape.

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A car like the e12 is only worth what a potential buyer is willing to shell out for it, and nobody in their right mind would give two large for a brown 520 regardless of condition. Having said that ropey mk2 escorts have been making five or six grand on account of the motorsport connection, so there may be some worth in that. I forsee that 520 standing for another six months unless the guy revises his price a little - frankly if he paid the owner anything near that he's not much of a motor trader.
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Originally posted by Nick Nick wrote:

I'm looking for a really tidy E28 if anybody knows of one.. not so worried about the spec.. just that it has to be in tip top shape.

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Andy G has an Alpina B9 which may be FS.

My 528i SE may be up for sale, but I won't sell for peanuts.

plenty of E28's on fleabay but please be aware most of them will have rust in the sills/floors/jacking points. these cars are often abused/neglected by uncaring skinflints who buy tham as a cheap fast bangers

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Originally posted by Martin325iSport Martin325iSport wrote:

I'd be pleased with a value of £3.5k for a good one. The problem with the E12 M535i is that with only 450 or so RHD examples originally imported and most of these since crashed or rusted away over the last 25 years, it is difficult to value them. People without the BMW anorak tend to still confuse them with the later and less desirable (in my book) E28 M535i for which any price over £1,500 is seen as high. I certainly plan to keep mine for the long term due to its rarity as the first proper 'M' produced road car, its classic looks and I enjoy driving it!

 

What is the value of a nice W regd M5 E12 vs a nice W regd 635Csi?

like you say, the M5 E12 is a hand built genuine M car.

the E28 M535i is a std production line 535i with a few M bits bolted on. not the same deal at all.

can we see some pics outside/inside of your caR?
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There wasn't an M5 in the E12 range.  Top of the range was the M535i built in very limited numbers in rhd around 80/81.
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but it was the first of the specific M versions, which in turn paved the way for the M derived cars.
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Originally posted by Dergside Dergside wrote:

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There wasn't an M5 in the E12 range.  Top of the range was the M535i built in very limited numbers in rhd around 80/81.

you are correct Mr Derg, its my annoying habit to call the E12 M535 an M5. its a true hand built M car and deserves to be called an M5 IMO. I think they are just stunning. hardly any left now.
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Philip,

I agree with your comments. Unfortunately I can't put photos of my M535i up on the forum at present as I still haven't go around to sorting out a digi. camera.

Mine presently needs a bit more time and money spent on it to make A1 but i'm in the process of selling my E30 325i Sport to help fund this. Once the car is how I want it to be, i'll bring it along to some of the club meets.

 
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Originally posted by M3AG M3AG wrote:

but it was the first of the specific M versions, which in turn paved the way for the M derived cars.

Andy, my braintree mech had two E12 M535's last time I called in. he loves them. pop round and buy one! I seem to recall one of them has a blueprinted engine, said to be VERY tasty.

Was it you who said that before the official E12 M535 was launched, the M Power Division built some high power E12's to individual order for very special German customers. were they BMW racing drivers perhaps?

 
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yes, I read that they had put the 3.0 engine in the 528i of the time for the Director of BMW plus some choice performance parts, and also some 3.3 engines in the e12's for some noteable racing drivers of the period. Few survive although the first one (Directors car) is rumoured to have ended up here in the UK.
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If I recall correctly there was also an e12 533i available in the US with the 633csi engine.
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Originally posted by Nick Nick wrote:

I'm looking for a really tidy E28 if anybody knows of one.. not so worried about the spec.. just that it has to be in tip top shape.

Nick

Mine could be up for sale very shortly if you're interested Nick. Could be purchasing an E34 soon but my car will have the 16" Alessios back on. Will keep the alpinas for the new car.

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The E12 was not hand built, it was churned out
along with all the other E12's. It was a 528 with
635CSi running gear.

As for there not being many E12 520's left - well
thank Christ for that. What a god awful car they were.

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