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Tetleysmooth
Senior Member II Joined: 01-February-2005 Location: Rainham, Essex Status: Offline Points: 236 |
Posted: 19-May-2005 at 16:07 |
Nice one Doive.
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Doive
Really Senior Member II Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
Posted: 19-May-2005 at 16:00 |
Ah well, I'd rather be an object of pity and have fun in the process, whilst still maintaining a healthy bank account as opposed to owning something 'nice'. See, as for an object of ridicule I suppose that is true to an extent. I do get pointed and laughed at, but the people who do this are chavs in their tupperware novas so I proceed to point and laugh back. Swings and roundabouts, I doth not care in the slightest what said chav thinks. Other normal members of the populace who have tooted their horns, flashed their lights and gave me the thumbs up in traffic must obviously all be mocking me, and the couple in their fifties who passed me on the motorway tooting, smiling and waving were clearly heaping scorn upon me and my 'not nice' car. See, I drive scrapyard specials not because I'm cheap or miserable, but because they are there. They have a certain charm, and it is usually a challenge to make a truly nice car out of one. Well, the E28 is the exception to the rule. I defy you to have a look round that and tell me it's banger fodder, all for 150 quid. I could of course have gone down a dealer and bought an E39 for six grand, but if that breaks I'm stuffed because I spent all my money buying the car. Get a scrappy car and you can never be disappointed because you anticipate everything going wrong. Each to their own mate. |
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Andyboy
Banned User Joined: 04-June-2003 Status: Offline Points: 707 |
Posted: 19-May-2005 at 15:06 |
I will never be able to afford a Mercedes 300SL
Gullwing, but I'd love to drive one. Before I bought my first house, if I'd sold everything I owned and my ar*e for medical science I could have JUSt scraped enough together to buy a 365GT4 Boxer. Running it, repairing it, insurance and fuel would have ruined me though. This was the stage when they had crashed down to under £40'000..........the bottom line was that in reality, I just could never have afforded it. But it's nice to have dreams and ambitions to own something really beautiful. But I guess I'm the odd one out here in having ambition and not settling for the lowest common denominator and searching ebay for £50 scrappers. It's all about aspiring to own something nice. If you want to drive a rusty four door Chevette, then poor old you. I'm not saying we should all be like extras in 'Footballer's Wives' but come on! We had a teacher at school who drove a four door Chevette in around 1980. Even then it was an object of ridicule - we used to call them Stick Insects. Oh, my everyday car is a 225'000 mile 1989 730i manual. But some of the cars I've had........... |
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bmw1066
Really Senior Member II GOOD OLD E23 Joined: 16-January-2005 Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton Status: Offline Points: 1095 |
Posted: 18-May-2005 at 18:09 |
I would rather spend my time and muny on a old 3 5 6 or 7 as I do than on a muney pit of a e-type as thay are no cheeper than a my e23 that so far has cost me £16 and use evey day, I spend more time looking at old voxouls, austins and Trimphs at car shows as thay are way more intresting as is a well used but care fored classic, most fun car I have driven is a old bedford CF camper van to be welded up for MOT. |
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit Spelling always Bad |
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rubberknees50
Really Senior Member II Does it have chrome bumpers? Joined: 26-July-2004 Location: Telford, Shropshire Status: Offline Points: 1074 |
Posted: 18-May-2005 at 12:36 |
Pity you're not nearer Dave, one local scrappy has M535 with good bonnet, don't know what they want for it, another has half a dozen E34's with BBS on, They said they wanted £80 a set but forgot to ask if that was set of 4 or set of 5. Can't recall who without looking, someone posted the other day they were pm'ing you about a set of BBS, think they were of 7 series, did you get it?
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IanT
E28 528, E23 735 |
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Doive
Really Senior Member II Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
Posted: 18-May-2005 at 11:09 |
Good stuff Teley, great to hear of another person willing to stoop low
enough to salvage these old ladies of the road. I'm sure people on here
will be able to help you with the bits, failing that there was someone
on fleabay not too long ago breaking a decent 525e. Shame. Hopefully
I'll meet you at some of the shows over the summer and we can compare
our worthless old piles of crap.
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Tetleysmooth
Senior Member II Joined: 01-February-2005 Location: Rainham, Essex Status: Offline Points: 236 |
Posted: 18-May-2005 at 10:03 |
Doive, I got my 525e, another car uncared for by its previous owner. Probably just another piece of worthless tosh to Andyboy, Hiabboy and VP, but I love it. Bit of a shopping list to go with it though, I need a bonnet, nearside front wing and complete rear bumper. Anybody got these items for sale? I've been looking for a set of 15 inch BBS, but I'd settle for 1 14 inch BBS. Once again, anybody got one? I'm going to enjoy working on this, it's very solid apart from the front wing, the bonnet is damaged and not worth repairing.
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Doive
Really Senior Member II Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
Posted: 18-May-2005 at 09:53 |
To me there is no point spending a small fortune on your car, preparing
it to look good then driving to a classic show and parking next to all
the other identical versions of the car - see MGB, Jag mk2 etc for
evidence of this. Last classic show I was at mine was the only chevette
on display, there were several mk2 jags and I lost count of the number
of MGBs. I'm not saying the e24 is plentiful, just more widely
available than some other cars such as the chevette. If the classic
scene was populated only by people like you then every classic show
would be filled with 'desirable' cars - predictable cars that litter
every show. I like to see something different or rare, last show I was
parked next to a mk1 avenger and our two cars together were attracting
by far the largest crowd of people. Opposite me was a Rolls Royce
Silver Spirit - a 'desirable' car - getting completely ignored. I know
which I'd rather drive.
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M3AG
Really Senior Member II 7 series & e36 m3 registrar! (Madness) Joined: 17-October-2002 Location: Good Old Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 1644 |
Posted: 18-May-2005 at 09:05 |
same old arguement, same old story Andy, those that 'rescue' old 5's do it because they want to, and like doing it. Not everybody wants a 6! Regardless of costs of parts and cost of resale. Lots of people are not fussed about an end figure.
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we're the Sweeney son, and we ain't had our dinner.....
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Doive
Really Senior Member II Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
Posted: 18-May-2005 at 08:41 |
Its horses for courses mate, I happen to love my little orange four
door. You are right, I haven't driven an e-type, and have no desire so
to do because it is a car I will a) never afford, and b) even if I
could afford would never own. I didn't say the driving experience was
the same - as you say 80s shopping car could never match the best
sports car the 60s had to offer - but what I did say was that on an
ownership basis it could be argued that I derive just as much pleasure
owning and driving my car as the e type owner does, all for many
thousands of pounds less. Is it as fast? Err... no. Is it as pretty?
Nope. Did it cost as much? Definitely not. An e type is in a different
class, but then most e types are used as high day and holiday cars,
locked away in an air conditioned garage until summer. My car gets used
every single day, sun or snow, and has never once 'failed to proceed'.
Read the accounts of most e type owners, and they are filled with
either breakdowns or hugely massive garage bills, neither things I have
to contend with in my scrapyard fodder. You don't understand why I
drive my car, there is no point trying. I have my reasons, and I don't
give a fig what anyone else thinks of me - I'm enjoying the experience.
So I'll keep buying cars you reject for 100 quid and smoke around in
them. Each to their own.
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Martin325iSport
Newbie Joined: 09-June-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 18-May-2005 at 06:25 |
Hiabboy, Can you provide me with some contact details for the owner of the Polaris E12 M535i breaker that you mentioned yesterday. I'd be interested in some of the car.......
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Andyboy
Banned User Joined: 04-June-2003 Status: Offline Points: 707 |
Posted: 18-May-2005 at 03:50 |
On another note, I had a Sapphire blue M535i E12,
SWY 7W. I wonder what happened to that? Now that was a fast old turd although it was just a patched up old shed. I'd be surprised if it's still around TBH. |
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Andyboy
Banned User Joined: 04-June-2003 Status: Offline Points: 707 |
Posted: 18-May-2005 at 03:42 |
Oh God, it's the old 'lets save worthless rubbish from
the scrapyard' argument. I believe we had someting similar on the old 7 Srs forum. Maybe you should ask yourselves WHY you're all messing around with £100 cars - nothing personal, but you need a wake up call. Doive - I think our Teutonic mate was referring to the Bronze 520, a truly awful car. I doubt he would insult your 525e. I agree with him about the Chevette tho. A 525e is a nice old thing, but to say that you gain as much pleasure out of a 1256cc shopping trolley as an E Type is ridiculous - I doubt you've even driven an E Type. A Chevette HS is of course a classic. If you had a Shove-it hatchback with a 2 litre Pinto and Minitites than that's different. Personally I wouldn't wish to be seen in an orange 4 door. A 525e - I've run a couple and think they're okay. What he (and I) are saying is - why rescue junk (like a scrap ebay 528i with a cooked engine and dented panels......) when there are better cars to mess about with for so little. Look on ebay and you will find an old 635CSi needing work for a few hundred quid. As long as the wings can be repaired (most can), a 6 Series costs no more to restore than some nasty old E28 as 99% of the bits that matter are the same. It's not about financial gain although only a fool would not realise that at the end of it, a clean E28 is worth about £350 and a 6 Series £2000. Sorry, but you've got to be some kind of loser to mess around with a cooking 5 Series. Don't waste your time. P.S what do you think of my old blue 8 Series in BMW Car this month? Nice pics eh? |
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Dergside
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2004 Location: Mid West, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4000 |
Posted: 17-May-2005 at 13:19 |
Price has now dropped to £1695 on the Autotrader website! |
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M3AG
Really Senior Member II 7 series & e36 m3 registrar! (Madness) Joined: 17-October-2002 Location: Good Old Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 1644 |
Posted: 17-May-2005 at 09:47 |
ah but are you totally cured, considering the e23 affliction you appear to be lumbered with?
What about Laserchrom, he has e12 panels a while back, may be worth giving them a call? |
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Hiabboy
Really Senior Member I Joined: 05-February-2005 Status: Offline Points: 325 |
Posted: 17-May-2005 at 09:40 |
I know a fellow fiend with an e12 535 he wants to unload ,its a long sad story but it is a breaker, it has good polaris panels apart from the roof !. I have a complete excellent genuine bmw exhaust for a 535i as well. I have owned 5 m535s over the years and still have fond memories of the oversteer on demand and the rust !.Luckily i'm now cured !.
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Profit is more reasonable than justice.
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Martin325iSport
Newbie Joined: 09-June-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 17-May-2005 at 08:03 |
Hiabboy, Just as an aside to this post, if you have or know of a source for decent E12 body body panels (even better if they are polaris silver!) along a decent chrome rear bumper, please let me know. I'd like to create a 'secret stash' of these for use as my M535i may need them over time. Edited by Martin325iSport |
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Hiabboy
Really Senior Member I Joined: 05-February-2005 Status: Offline Points: 325 |
Posted: 17-May-2005 at 04:13 |
All 'ordinary' e12s should be used as donor vehicles to keep m535s on the road, the 535 was/is a hero chariot all the rest are sad t*rds.
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Profit is more reasonable than justice.
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rubberknees50
Really Senior Member II Does it have chrome bumpers? Joined: 26-July-2004 Location: Telford, Shropshire Status: Offline Points: 1074 |
Posted: 16-May-2005 at 19:10 |
Everyone has their own idea of their ideal car (or one not so ideal but loved) I don't care if someone has a Mini or a Daimler Conquest, if that is their chosen vehicle and they are prepared to put the effort in to save it they are enthusiasts and it is wrong to slag them off. |
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IanT
E28 528, E23 735 |
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Doive
Really Senior Member II Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
Posted: 16-May-2005 at 17:55 |
I assume by 'that bronze one' you mean my car?!
Oh well. Each to their own I suppose. Although I would strongly argue the point that just because a car was crap when new, it may well be crap now, but some of us choose to drive crap. I saw my car in a classic magazine along with all the 'nice' MGBs, spitfires and cortinas, and made a conscious decision to drive 600 miles to buy this pile of orange crap. And do you know what? My pile of orange crap has kept me very happy for the last two years, and will hopefully continue to do so for some time yet. In fact, if the engine fell out tomorrow, I would happily shell out for the bits to recondition it and keep it on the road. Mad? Quite possibly. But then any e-type owner would do the same for their car, and arguably I get just as much enjoyment and satisfaction from owning and driving my car as said e-type owner, for about one fiftieth of the cost. There is more to life than financial gain, I chose my pile of crap for purely sentimental reasons and never expected to make any kind of profit on it. Its a great car that makes me smile. Perhaps my standards are lower than yours. But then, I can pick up a superb car for 100 quid that you wouldn't even glance at, while you shell out thousands for a 6 series or something else you consider desirable. As I say, each to their own. |
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