E46 M3 vs 330Ci Sport

Praktisk wrote: How much can one get a decent CBR600 for? and what is clased as high mileage as far as bikes are concerned. I heard its simlar to dog years > human years where bikes > cars mileage is concerned.

£2000 will get you an old dog ..£3000  will buy a nice one [but you will have to search hard for it] £3 to 4000  will get you a minter [around] the 2000 or 01 plated one ...

miles on bikes are an average of 5000 miles per year..but many owners just ride there bikes every sunny sundays ...and how many sunny sundays does the uk have ....hmmmmm   ..not many lol...

the cbr 6   ..is by far the best allround bike out there ..i see to many unexperianced riders ..go out and buy the gsxr 600  .or the kawaski ..and they end up on the tarmac a few months down the line .because they got over confidant with the power delivery ..[gsxrs have a werid power band] and it just spits the rider off ...the cbr  is far more forgiving if you get it wrong ..so hence a better entry level bike

Peter Fenwick wrote: I just know if I got a bike I'd end up being scraped off the tarmac

i have to agree bikes can be dangerous  in some peaples hands  .but its only them that get hurt  not anybody else

in my racing years   i had a nasty accident[the mountian at cadwell]

after a few months i was back to been able to walk etc etc ..and i was driving a freind [non biker] somewere .and he asked me what it felt like coming off at over 100 mph..as we were on the motorway at the time and doing around 90 ish .i told him to open the door and put his foot on the ground..he did    ..i think that put him off bikes for life .....

so peter   if you ever need any thing to putt you off a bike .do the above ..lol

A bloke round here committed suicide a few months ago by riding his bike flat out into a set of Barn Doors.

You may have read about it, he was a PILOT suffering from depression.

What upset me, was not only the tragedy of him taking his own life, but he also took-out an unsuspecting cow stood on the other side of the doors.

brybusa wrote: owning a performance bike have an addiction only a big bike can give. No experience a car can offer comes close to riding a superbike, Actually its better than that!

sorry all you car fans out there but mr busa is right..theres not one single thing out there[apart from a jet fighter ride] to come even close to a performance bike ..the rush the adrenialin[spelling] the buzz .the sheer feeling of being able to make the bike work for you.is just truly awsome.

in cars all the M range and other marques have made me smile

but when its a bike

Yep, the caterham is supposed to be a real buzz...Didnt it win the 0-100-0 shootout in recent months?

Interesting point re the fighter pilot thing, from the articles ive read in the bikes mags, they seem to rate the bikes more fun, however I would love to have a ride in a pukka fighter jet

It wasnt in one of those Ex russian fighter things was it?

Seen those advertised, would mind a decker but they just look kinda, err, shoddy!

brybusa wrote: Yep, the caterham is supposed to be a real buzz...Didnt it win the 0-100-0 shootout in recent months? Interesting point re the fighter pilot thing, from the articles ive read in the bikes mags, they seem to rate the bikes more fun, however I would love to have a ride in a pukka fighter jet

Yep, but given many top end hypercars can match superbikes at top speeds then what these guys are doing is re-writing what's possible..

http://www.ultimacars.com/

The point where a car can become theoretically faster is when the power-to-weight can be matched but the amount of available power that can be put down in traction by 2 (or 4) wheels outmatches that of one wheel. Top speed is always the culimination of drag and gearing. Until then low inertia and low transmission drag will be nigh on impossible to beat. That low inertia then works in reverse when braking and cars lose out as weight momentum takes longer to retard.

That's before you take into account real world acceleration. By the time a supercar driver has thought about dropping a gear and hitting the loud pedal.. the Bike is already away with very little time lost between reaction and forward motion. That's why supercars can match or get closer on track but on roads..

But on a charge I reckon this Ultima would be hard to bear - requiring top tuned Crescents or Busa's .. maybe NOS'd or turbo'd. Overcoming loss of traction and weight off the line being the real barrier to genuine sub 3 second times.. but this Ultima is getting there.. 2.7 seconds and it's only going to get quicker. Sub 5 to 100 is only a matter of time if they can keep traction. Figures shown are for the 2002 car but they have since bettered this in a 600bhp car and there's a 700bhp engine on the way.

http://www.ultimacars.com/fra_ultima_cars.htm

Imagine it on the Mulsanne.

I thought Z3 was derived from E36 ?.. no ... ah well.

I wonder if Kylie Minogue was derived from the E30 too, after all she is known as "The Thinking Mans Crumpet"