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jaseb 
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 Topic: E30 M3 for sale
Posted: 18-January-2003 at 18:17 |
Car now gone to it's new owner 
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jaseb
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Posted: 15-January-2003 at 08:17 |
I just wanted one! I have to admit there wasn't much more to it than that, just a need to get it out of my system I guess and now that I have one I'm well impressed, it's all I want out of a car.
Fun for me is not in a straight line so the Sport Evo suits me down to the ground.
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mark m power
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Posted: 14-January-2003 at 17:44 |
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why u want a evo sport the country seems facinated by them i have a non evo e30 1990 and a 95 e36 coupem3 u wouldnt see them in the same road and unless ur tracking it a lot the e36 if u can steer at all will walk away it is so much quicker and reliable have had a few dealings with nigel moseley and found him very helpful and doesnt rob u unlike munich legends nice premises and dont they keep all there used cars so nice?
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many thanks mark
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jaseb
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Posted: 03-January-2003 at 14:24 |
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back to the top out of badness, offers of £5500 taken!
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MarkD
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Posted: 06-December-2002 at 09:25 |
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The Italian car at M/L is Roberto Ravaglia's championship winning car from 1990 - so that would be very expensive if it was for sale - I've sat in it a few times and it's in nice condition but could use having its original Italian livery put back.
The other two cars are DTM cars from 1991. One I think must have been a Bigazzi team car (possibly Soper or Hahne?) and has most of its original livery - I saw it listed at around £50-55K on their sales list a couple of years ago - but they've still got it. The other one is an ex-Schnitzer car - doesn't have it's original livery anymore but looks very impressive (has it's perspex rear/rear side windows etc)
I was talking to Nigel Moseley about these earlier this year and he mentioned another '91 car (Cecotto's Schnitzer car from the first half of the season) for around £37K. Nige seems to be the man to talk to if you want one of these cars. I'd love one (if I ever had the money!) but you'd need to budget for a trailer, tyres, parts and periodical engine rebuilds - and that would add up!
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John W
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Posted: 05-December-2002 at 23:44 |
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I'd also be interested to know what ML want for the Italian car. You could probably knock 10K off their price to get its true value!!
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo
1990 E30 M3
http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/
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gary
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Posted: 05-December-2002 at 20:41 |
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How much for 1 of these cars then?How much is the M/L 1? I can't afford it just curious
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John W
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Posted: 05-December-2002 at 18:37 |
Quote: Originally posted by MarkD on 05-December-2002
John
I could use the lottery win myself! And that's with just one M3! The insurance question and general running costs does worry me; but at least you can reduce the cost slightly by insuring one of your cars on a classic policy.
If I wond the lottery I'd probably treat myself to an ex-works team DTM racer circa 1991-92 - Munich Legends has a couple in the showroom at present - with 350-370bhp, now that would be interesting to try out!
Seriously though - anybody been round a track in an ex-racer? Any comments on the experience.
Mark
Mark,
I've been round Croft as a passenger in a genuine 1988 Group A European Touring Car Championship E30 M3. It belongs to a bloke I know in Newcastle. It has the essential and genuine original livery, ie white car with the M stripes over the roof plus Warsteiner sponsorship and all the rest.
It has carbon Recaros inside and not much else. It is loud as hell. It produces about 300 bhp, and accelerates very well. I love the carbon airbox on the engine. It has 6 pot brakes at the front, so braking is a bit better than my Sport Evo! When you are in it, it sounds just like the noise from the in-car footage you used to watch from Grandstand's touring car coverage back in the day.....but much louder.
Put simply....I want one. I'd like a 2.5 Sport Evo version in Italian livery. One day.
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo
1990 E30 M3
http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/
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jaseb
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Posted: 05-December-2002 at 17:10 |
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I've no idea but knowing Nige I'm sure he's open to offers...
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MarkD
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Posted: 05-December-2002 at 12:51 |
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Does Nigel rent out his cars? I've seen the ex-Emmanuele Pirro Italian Sport Evo - I remember speaking to a couple of guys at the Brooklands meet who've seen it running - apparently sounds fantastic.
I would love to "blag" a ride in either one of Nigel's or one of M/Ls cars - just got to make sure I'm in the right place at the right time for once.
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jaseb
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Posted: 05-December-2002 at 11:34 |
Talk to Nige, he's got 3 touring cars, a DTM, Labatts BTCC and a works Italian jobby, was going to enquire about renting one for a track day...
(he writes "in his dreams")
I understand he's been round the Nurburgring in at least one of them, I think Munich Legends takes theirs there annually too, if you spend your pennies there it's got to be worth trying to blag a ride if not a drive!
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MarkD
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Posted: 05-December-2002 at 09:58 |
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John
I could use the lottery win myself! And that's with just one M3! The insurance question and general running costs does worry me; but at least you can reduce the cost slightly by insuring one of your cars on a classic policy.
If I wond the lottery I'd probably treat myself to an ex-works team DTM racer circa 1991-92 - Munich Legends has a couple in the showroom at present - with 350-370bhp, now that would be interesting to try out!
Seriously though - anybody been round a track in an ex-racer? Any comments on the experience.
Mark
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John W
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Posted: 04-December-2002 at 22:21 |
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2 M3s........the last words of a condemned man. Well.......look at me, I'm fine but I could do with a lottery win. And it's insurance time again in January. Great.
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John W
1990 E30 M3 Sport Evo
1990 E30 M3
http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/john_uk/
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MarkD
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Posted: 04-December-2002 at 16:43 |
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Gary
It'll be some time before I can get hold of a Sport Evo - unfortunately!! But I should still have my current car early next year - in fact I was going to sell it soon but I've been thinking of all the money I've spent on it over the last four years and hate the thought of selling it too cheap!
I may try and do what John W has done and have 2 M3s - my current one for track use (it's got a rollcage etc) and get hold of a Sport Evo for regular road use (I hate to see "totalled" Sport Evos like the one I saw at Munich Legends a couple of years ago which was wrecked at the Nurburgring). It will all come down to finances in the end!
I'd be up for a meet up sometime, though I don't know where I'll be living at the time. I may be moving back to Edinburgh early in the new year - in which case I'll be heading to Nigel's place for a new MOT and Inspection 2 around March-April.
Hopefully I'll see you when you head south.
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jaseb
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Posted: 04-December-2002 at 15:58 |
Well I think the chap wants my car this weekend but I really need to put him off for a week, might end up with a hire car if not. Should have the evo for next weekend with luck.
Just in time for Christmas!
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gary
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Posted: 04-December-2002 at 14:29 |
Quote: Originally posted by jaseb on 04-December-2002
Gary - let us know when you're coming and I may join you!
Will do mate .I think it's just in the planning stage at the moment,as soon as it is finalised I'll drop you a line. It would be good to meet up, maybe we can persuade JohnW to come along also.When do you think you will get the sport evo? What about you as well Mark,when are you likely to get yours & are you up for a visit when we come down?
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jaseb
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Posted: 04-December-2002 at 11:10 |
Extra complication and expense mainly, as the M3 engine isn't known for it's smoothness, the compressor bracket has a habit of vibrating then cracking and falling off! This is a bad habit in my book, as it's happened on my car twice now - once in the south of France in August! Definitely rate the aircon in hire cars as a better option!
Also even when it was working it wasn't that strong and like you say affects the idling ability of the car - it saps that much power.
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MarkD
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Posted: 04-December-2002 at 10:35 |
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Jaseb
You say that you don't rate the E30 air con system - anything in particular, or is it just the extra complication and expense?
I've been thinking if it's worthwhile having in my next car (hopefully a Sport Evo). The only time I've experienced it is in a 325 convertible in the south of Spain a couple of years back - and they need it there! Can't say I thought it was very powerful.
Maybe I'll be better off without (and save some weight into the bargain). I remember in at least one old magazine roadtest they complained of the air con system causing the car to stall in traffic - any truth to this?
Mark
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jaseb
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Posted: 04-December-2002 at 08:55 |
That's what Nige said too...
But as it goes I believe him!
This Italian import seems to be along the same lines as the Dutch import I currently own - Tops! It was imported in 1998 with 77000 kms and has done about another 4k!
My Dutch car is running along the same lines as yours then Mark, little history when bought and stacks now. Apparently the aircon is not charged but I'll get Pete to put the car up in the air and check the bracket condition - Ijust left mine offin the end as the bracker cracked twice and I don't really rate the aircon in these cars anyway.
Gary - let us know when you're coming and I may join you!
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Nick
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Posted: 03-December-2002 at 22:55 |
Jaseb...
Nige is one of the good guys...
He will look after you.
Nick
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