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    Posted: 03-December-2004 at 13:47

Dept Of Transport say, in the Road safety Bill-they will ban detectors & Jammers and the carrying of them.Job done within the year.

They didnt tell the Lawyers for the manufactorers !!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 14:37
should be a very interesting sales result this xmas then..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 18:17

Any chance they'll also ban Gatsos and handhelds as well?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 18:27

npbs ill just unplug mine and rely on the gps side of it ;)

they aint planning to ban them yet ;)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 19:17
..now if we all drove sensibly, we wouldn't nned them would we...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 19:41

they'll have to prise mine out of my cold dead hands....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 19:42
Originally posted by stephenperry stephenperry wrote:

they'll have to prise mine out of my cold dead hands....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 19:51

was that a quote from the film?!

i havent seen that film in a long time

oh i remember now, thats the bit at the start when the cockroach thing asks for the farmers shotgun?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 19:54
Have they said what the fine for using one will be? If it's less than a speeding fine and dosn't carry points then you would be as well using it until you get caught.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 19:59

makes sense , theres more info here:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=9581


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 20:05

Heres a related story from Pistonheads

DO ALIENS MAKE YOU SPEED?

Friday 3rd December

They do in Northumbria. Check out the excuses

Aliens ate my hamster isn't quite it -- but it's close. The Northumbria Safety Camera Partnership -- the body which runs the county's speed camera business -- has just published its top 10 excuses for being Gatsoed. At the top of the list is a trance induced by aliens, followed by blaming passing aircraft for triggering the camera.

The list comes from the excuses penned by motorists trying to avoid the dreaded three-points and an SP30 penalty.

Northumbria Safety Camera Partnership manager Ray King said: "Some drivers seem to think that if they tell a good enough story then they will get off, which unfortunately rarely works. It is quite amazing the lengths some drivers will go to to avoid 60 and three points, when really the alternative is extremely simple - keep within the speed limit."

The top ten list is:

  • I had passed out after seeing flashing lights, which I believed to be UFOs in the distance. The flash of the camera brought me round from my trance.
  • I was in the airports flight path and I believe the camera was triggered by a jet overhead, not my car.
  • I had a severe bout of diarrhoea and had to speed to a public toilet.
  • There was a strong wind behind my car which pushed me over the limit.
  • My friend had just chopped his fingers off and I was rushing the fingers to hospital.
  • The vibrations from the surfboard I had on the roof rack set off the camera.
  • I had to rush my dying hamster to the vets.
  • A violent sneeze caused a chain reaction where my foot pushed down harder on the accelerator.
  • There was a suspected case of foot and mouth and I had to rush to see the cow concerned.
  • The only way I could demonstrate my faulty clutch was to accelerate madly.

It's just a pity that speeding chiefs of police (eg Manchester) don't seem to feel the need to explain anything, other than giving their name, rank and serial  number.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 20:56

i mentioned this earlier in the year and got slated for it.

 

what they are going to do is ban anything with the ability to emmit a signal under the radio liscence bill.

basically meaning you need a permit or liscence to carry which wont be granted.

it wont effect the likes of road angel and other top gps based systems.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 07:45
detectors don't emit radar, jammers do...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 09:24

i`m not talking about radar.

if they have the capability they are being banned

not if they use it (which of course is also being banned)

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 09:28

 i don't get you

what capability?  what are you talking about if its not radar?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 10:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 10:34

to be honest i am unsure but when i was at the autosport international i spoke to dave walker who is the MD of road angel and he told me about this new bill being passed and he told me about there new contract to fit road angel as an optional extra in the new VW`s

He told me that things like the snooper have an ability too send a signal and it was this fact that they would be banned by mid 2005 and this looks like it is coming true.

its not as easy as changing this device either as the way some of the systems work is by them sending a signal which is picked up by things around them (i cant remember the full reason to be honest) and some devices have a chip which has capability of sending out signals which cant be changed as it is this same chip that recieves signals.

 

i hope this makes a little sence ????

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 11:22
Speaking personally, and my opinion of these things won't sit well with many, I think that gizmo's that sit on the dashboards and squeal at you constantly do nothing but distract the driver, and we all know full well that there are more than enough distractions on the roads already. 

My answer to habitual speeders would be a simple bit of jiggery pokery.  Have the Ministry of Transport fit a speed limiter on the offenders car, added to a tracking device, offender would then have a curfew so could only use the car for work, not evenings/weekends without permission and in the event of such misuse, the car be confiscated.

Cos if you insist on being an habitual speeder, you ain't adult enough to drive a car anyway.  Taking responsibility for your actions, only you can do that, not some overpriced gizmo sat on the dashboard screaming like a banshee.  Speeding is stupid, dangerous and just not necessary..we all have done it and grown out of it..those who haven't grown out of it, maybe need to quit driving before they take someone elses life.  Perhaps an age/experience related cc/bhp limit should be introduced too.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 11:36

a simple answer to that is this. (based on the results of massive work from the RAC and the AA)

Uk speed limits were set out in the early 1970`s when the braking systems on cars were far less advanced than those of today.

It is a fact that modern cars can stop, at higher speeds in a shorter distance than those of yesteryear.

adding 10mph onto the speed limit would reduce trafic congestion by around 20% saving the country billions in lost revenue with employees etc etc stuck in traffic.

We are very outdated in this country.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 11:41
And 30mph will still kill a child.

Infact 25mph will kill a child, car design has gone along way too...as have those nice shiny accessories....bull bars..supposedly outlawed but still in daily use.

Until the standard of the driving test is improved and is repeated every 5 yrs, then it doesn't matter how far forward the car is designwise..its the potential idiot behind the wheel that you got to worry about.

A car will only go as fast as the driver allows it to go.  And if the driver is an habitual speeder..well...
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