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Rhys
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Posted: 05-December-2004 at 17:05 | |
why, did she offer? (mersey tunnel springs to mind ) |
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Praktisk
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Posted: 05-December-2004 at 17:01 | |
Nah would have well lost my front lip spoilers .... Im always up for a big hump, but she was taking the mick! |
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Rhys
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Posted: 05-December-2004 at 16:57 | |
Should have just treated her as a traffic island..
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Praktisk
Really Senior Member II "Wanna buy some pegs Dave?" Joined: 06-June-2004 Location: Royston Vasey - Are U Local? Status: Offline Points: 845 |
Posted: 05-December-2004 at 16:37 | |
I was doing 60mph on a National Speed Limit road at 3am this morning, when suddenly infront of me is a drunken 20stone hussey, walking down the white centre lines, arms outstretched, not a care in the world. Obviously the countless redbull n vodkas and smirnoff ices inside her had made her immortal, and also oblivious to my loud horn and flashing lights. Managed to miss her anyway (feared the car would have bumped off her, not t'other way round to be honest) But a speedcamera in that situation wouldnt have saved her life (as I wasnt speeding), so I agree with the general concesus of B7 VP's arguement and think that the penalties for such stupid behaviour should be more publicised, infact she should inherit my 3 points that I received last month for doing 36mph on a duel carriageway (missed the 30 sign that was located moments before) Rant over. |
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 05-December-2004 at 16:17 | |
In case you haven't noticed, there might be a General Election coming up next year.
So, that leaves you with a straight choice: More of the same OR (wait for it....) possibly more of the same.... Oh, the agony of choice.... |
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B 7 VP
Really Senior Member II Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
Posted: 05-December-2004 at 08:29 | |
[QUOTE=Goldryder]And 30mph will still kill a child. >>> NO mention of parental training whatsoever?????, how come ALL the Safety partnerships are NOT Shouting "Green Cross code " Day & Night????? cos there is No money in it and Look Look Look, isnt as Dramatic, as Speed Kills.93% of accidents are not speed related--NOT that this fact is included in any DOT Bliarspeak.Just the same as the 4000 death,s each year in the Home--is of No concern-NO money!! So the answer for habitual speeders is to have a DOT restrictor in the car, and only work use (So TAX can be paid) So presume habitual Drug & Drinkers will get an electric shock from state fitted wrist strap, each time they have a thought.Why not take it to the Logical end, get Chippeduk to get US rechipped, sounds like the "Thought Police", maybe someone could write a book about it--1984--BUT-- its already a way of life-NOW.
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whiterider
Really Senior Member I Joined: 03-December-2004 Location: Sunny Telford Status: Offline Points: 287 |
Posted: 05-December-2004 at 07:25 | |
All very interesting, as an ex motorcyclist and someone who likes driving fast but recognises it's not always appropriate and never really "necessary". I think proper training and experience are the way forwardpossibly as said above, some restriction on what you can drive initially - rather than gatsos evey few hundred yards, many of which, as said above, are in totally stupid places. I remember the police "chats" only too well from my biker days, "In a race were we sonny" - Only response ""yes officer" or "No officer" lol Happy and safe motoring everyone! |
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Torch Str8 6
Really Senior Member I Joined: 09-May-2004 Location: Elgin, Scotland Status: Offline Points: 493 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 20:51 | |
another more interesting law that has been passed is the positioning of speed cameras, after a long report it was deemed that most of the cameras were in useless positions and only put there to make revenue for the department now they are going to put in more usefull positions ie actual and not fictional blackspots yes gps based detectors dont tell u whether the camera is alive or not but it does tell u if its there which is kind of the whole point anyway its also warned me of risk zones as they are called i remember earlier this year when i was heading down the A9 it went off and warned me to slow down which i did so i could see the riskzone in ? and as i braked wouldnt u know it if a deer just shot across the road, now thats wot i call a fortunate happenstance remember the old days before gatso's took off, when u got caught by actual policemen and given the stern lecture about speeding? that really hit home when i first got caught speeding remember radar detectors are illeagal in parts of the US and france but that doesnt stop them being used does it? food for thought |
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 20:36 | |
i agree wholeheartedly Rhys, a few local stories which stick in my mind 1994 - some young hotshoe in an orion overtook a string of cars coming up to a junction on the outskirts of elgin (40 mph limit), 3 teenagers in a metro pulling out of said junction weren't expecting to have to look both ways.... 4 people dead (metro and orion), case has just been closed this week - a copper who attended the scene has been awarded for trauma caused by said accident quite a spectacle, i was there to witness the aftermath after the crash another crash, bit more recently, a kawasaki hit a car after cutting a bend, again on the scene before the services but after other folks.... foot down to elgin police station as noone had a clue as to what was happening (yes im a bad boy, speeding tut tut) police cars, road closed, ambulance, both rider and pillion passenger tangled up in fence... one dead and couldnt be removed for fear of hurting the live one.... later pronounced dead... was there for that too and the story of the local 17 year old given the keys to a then brand new ford escort rs turbo by his father as a birthday present.. dead days later... wrapped it round a tree i could go on, but i dont need to preach to the converted, these things happen every day, hopefully not to you, those you love, or those you know ive done some really stupid things in the past and lived to tell the tale, they didnt seem stupid at the time, but hindsight is a wonderful teacher im not going to do a holier than thou thing, who would you rather trust? someone whos been there, done that and can tell you to watch out for the pitfalls cos youre going to do it anyway, or someone whos sanctimonious and of the "thou shalt not" attitude? Edited by stephenperry |
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Rhys
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Posted: 04-December-2004 at 20:11 | |
Hmmm, all very interesting..
Braking distances were based on a Ford Anglia circa 1960's (so my dad is ok since he has one ). But things have come a long way since then, to pass a driving test now is much harder than it used to be.. Insurence costs keep all but the richest youngster away from using powerfull cars (or their parents form putting them on their insurence..no offence to anyone on here) I've found that when driving at night, I have exceeded the speed limit several times, with no other traffic on the road, and no danger to anyone/myself. I'm not condoning going over the top end of what the law says, but I will say a bit of common sense is needed before doing so, you must take into account the weather, traffic etc. (which goes without saying) I also think that age should be related to the power of the car you drive, no-one in there right mind should belive a 17 year old youngster is capeable of driving, say a 600+bhp Skyline straight after passing a test in a metro/fiesta.. Exactly the same reason applies to bikes, there are age restrictions on the size of machine you can drive, as well as power restriction after passing your test (unless you are of a cetain age, and have taken an accelerated course) ..this is always of course open to argument, and is only my oppinion . |
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 14:35 | |
the real bugbear that the police and government have is that countermeasures to prevent or hinder speed detection mean that they lose out on revenue, it's got little to do with safety, as im sure everyone who has spotted a mobile or fixed speed trap in the middle of nowhere with no immediate threat nearby, be it road layout or proximity of hazards, concurs laser detectors will tell you when the police are toting laser guns, obviously they will alert you to this fact - hopefully they put it on a car thats in front of you(moral of the story? let the lead-footed person lead the way!), thereby giving you enough time to slow down from a minor infraction of the speed limit (say 70mph in a 60) before they move the gun onto you radar detectors will tell you if those fixed gatsos are live or not - if they aren't, then in theory you could blast through them with impunity - if they don't send out radar, then they don't receive it back (the doppler effect), and they don't get a fix on your speed that's why the government want radar/laser detectors banned - read the official statements published recently gps detectors are okay in the governments eyes cos they just give you a heads-up to be careful - speed detection device in the vicinity, saves your attention from diverting from the speedo and won't tell you if they are live or not, unlike the aforementioned detectors and heres some refreshingly non-biased info from a company that sells them: http://www.radar-guys.com/faqs.htm
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 13:58 | |
whats that saying? "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" put that rock down, Ally |
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 13:50 | |
I detect a kind of "born again" fundamentalism |
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 12:54 | |
they do say that reformed drivers are the worst kind |
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 12:52 | |
where do i sign up? ive got the land rover with chain on standby |
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 12:12 | |
Hmm, wonder if "Motorists Against Detection" are going to step up their membership recruiting drive....
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Goldryder
Bavarian-Board Contributor Illegitimi Non Carborundum Joined: 02-April-2004 Location: Acomb, North Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 5301 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 11:41 | |
And 30mph will still kill a child.
Infact 25mph will kill a child, car design has gone along way too...as have those nice shiny accessories....bull bars..supposedly outlawed but still in daily use. Until the standard of the driving test is improved and is repeated every 5 yrs, then it doesn't matter how far forward the car is designwise..its the potential idiot behind the wheel that you got to worry about. A car will only go as fast as the driver allows it to go. And if the driver is an habitual speeder..well... |
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chippeduk
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Posted: 04-December-2004 at 11:36 | |
a simple answer to that is this. (based on the results of massive work from the RAC and the AA) Uk speed limits were set out in the early 1970`s when the braking systems on cars were far less advanced than those of today. It is a fact that modern cars can stop, at higher speeds in a shorter distance than those of yesteryear. adding 10mph onto the speed limit would reduce trafic congestion by around 20% saving the country billions in lost revenue with employees etc etc stuck in traffic. We are very outdated in this country. |
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Goldryder
Bavarian-Board Contributor Illegitimi Non Carborundum Joined: 02-April-2004 Location: Acomb, North Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 5301 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 11:22 | |
Speaking personally, and my opinion of these things won't sit well with
many, I think that gizmo's that sit on the dashboards and squeal at you
constantly do nothing but distract the driver, and we all know full well
that there are more than enough distractions on the roads
already.
My answer to habitual speeders would be a simple bit of jiggery pokery. Have the Ministry of Transport fit a speed limiter on the offenders car, added to a tracking device, offender would then have a curfew so could only use the car for work, not evenings/weekends without permission and in the event of such misuse, the car be confiscated. Cos if you insist on being an habitual speeder, you ain't adult enough to drive a car anyway. Taking responsibility for your actions, only you can do that, not some overpriced gizmo sat on the dashboard screaming like a banshee. Speeding is stupid, dangerous and just not necessary..we all have done it and grown out of it..those who haven't grown out of it, maybe need to quit driving before they take someone elses life. Perhaps an age/experience related cc/bhp limit should be introduced too. Edited by Goldryder |
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chippeduk
Really Senior Member II ECU Tech Joined: 04-June-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 696 |
Posted: 04-December-2004 at 10:34 | |
to be honest i am unsure but when i was at the autosport international i spoke to dave walker who is the MD of road angel and he told me about this new bill being passed and he told me about there new contract to fit road angel as an optional extra in the new VW`s He told me that things like the snooper have an ability too send a signal and it was this fact that they would be banned by mid 2005 and this looks like it is coming true. its not as easy as changing this device either as the way some of the systems work is by them sending a signal which is picked up by things around them (i cant remember the full reason to be honest) and some devices have a chip which has capability of sending out signals which cant be changed as it is this same chip that recieves signals.
i hope this makes a little sence ???? |
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