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Mick525i ![]() Bavarian-Board Contributor ![]() ![]() Joined: 29-November-2005 Location: Dublin Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 1823 |
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It looks like we will be going West for this one. And thats a good thing.
Ill know by the time I get home if its worked or not. 10 or 12bhp is what I would expect. But I would hope for much better response from the car. Lets see on pricing and availability. Mick |
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Mick ![]() BMW E21 318 1980 BMW E39 525i 2002 MTech VW Golf Gti 2003 |
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paddy_d2k2 ![]() Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2006 Location: Co. Kildare Status: Offline Points: 245 |
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Sounds like a potential CONVOY to me.....could be a nice spin. Really hope the dates suit now so I can see about how it fits for time off/days off etc.
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Ben O Brien ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-August-2004 Location: Limerick,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1205 |
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Ok well that would be 11 so including colin, @Mick i would have hoped for better gains for your car, mine is supposed to rise to 207.. @ Colin is that the Clare Road Tyre Centre there near Francie Daly's?? I buy all my tires in there but never saw any remapping service, Martin normally charges 350 euro, the last day we had a group buy it was 250 euro. Sam motors on the quin road have started doing this and charge a whopping 600euro per car!! And no Rolling Road!! Ok so do people want to go west with this or do we want to stay with dun laoire with martin?? Wait For Prices??
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Fey! ![]() Bavarian-Board Contributor ![]() ![]() Funs over, Scotty; beam down my clothes! Joined: 28-February-2005 Location: Galway Status: Offline Points: 4161 |
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Does anyone know the cost from TTM in Galway? Do they do remap or just piggyback systems? If it's a west thing, I can try and sort the ssame accomadation as before for people if they want, but that'd mean an overnight in Galway!!! I understand if you prefer to do it in Limerick, Ben - it's your shout. |
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Ben O Brien ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-August-2004 Location: Limerick,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1205 |
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Thanks for the suggestion Fey, I have heard great reports on them, and they throw in a rolling road too.. Will give them a shout, have just sent the list to logic automotive too, but they are in dublin, Any excuse for an overnighter id say! Will get back with prices, i phoned them before about the 525td and it was 400euro including rr,
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Ben O Brien ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-August-2004 Location: Limerick,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1205 |
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At the moment this is the list of cars i have down to do it, this ok with everyone?? 91 525i 24 valve - Me And possibly a 3.0TD Landcruiser passenger jeep, 2000 if the gains are respectable. |
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b318isp ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 10-October-2002 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2057 |
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If it is in Leinster, then I could be interested for our Alhambra 1.9TDi PD, 115bhp.
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Ben O Brien ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-August-2004 Location: Limerick,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1205 |
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Just got off the phone to TTM and he said that all of their maps are live and not generic and hence it takes them a full day pretty much to do a map so he had no interest in doing the mapping side of things, he did however mention he would do a dyno day for us if we were interested for 60euro per car, Ok i will see what Robbie at TDP has to say, if he can do it it would be a result as he will also do the Rolling Roading for us.. |
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Mick525i ![]() Bavarian-Board Contributor ![]() ![]() Joined: 29-November-2005 Location: Dublin Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 1823 |
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Yea, the more I think about this the more it seems to me that getting lots of cars done in one day could result in rushing the process.
I would want to be sure that my car is getting the right attention and that it gets a personal map. What do the Pro's say on this point? How long would they take if I booked in my car as a one off??? Would they for example want the car for half a day. IF so how could they do 20 cars in one day???? Mick |
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Mick ![]() BMW E21 318 1980 BMW E39 525i 2002 MTech VW Golf Gti 2003 |
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Ben O Brien ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-August-2004 Location: Limerick,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1205 |
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Hi all, Just got off the phone to robbie at TDP and he really knows his stuff, tol me it would be limited to 10-12/13 cars split over a saturday and sunday, He is based in wicklow and can probably help sort accomodation for those needing it, The time frame would be the end of february, we talked about the 25/26, More importantly he spoke honestly of the cars mentioned, said for most of the e46/e39s he would even out the torque and provide about 8-10bhp at most, but it would be noticeable. He mentioned that post 99 cars could be flashed through the OBD port and would take around an hour to do, however most others would be in or around 3 hours so we would have to have a mix of pre and post 99 cars on the one day to make up time so to speak. He had heard of the last mapping day and understood fully the goings on surrounding the e46/e39 fiasco. He will also put the car on a dyno before and after to show the results. I for one am most impressed with them out of all i have looked at, he didnt seem to have any interest in ripping us off either which is very important! Cost is 350 euro per car which in my mind isnt bad considering the expertise and the fact a dynopack will be used quite a lot on each car. He said there will be a very detailed print out not just a dyno graph. The results for some of the diesels are astounding, proven 240-250 bhp from 530d's.. @ Denis and Gonzo. be prepared to be peeling yourselves from the back seat afterwards! How do we all feel about this?? |
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99' 728i Sport 98' E39 M5 - Avus Blue, Dec Car! 96' M3 Saloon - Estoril Blue 94' M3 3.0 Convertible 91' E34 M5 - 3.6, Macau Blue *E36 M3's Breaking* |
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Ben O Brien ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-August-2004 Location: Limerick,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1205 |
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@ Brendan, yes i would imagine that would benefit greatly, let me know if your still interested.. after reading ^^^^ |
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99' 728i Sport 98' E39 M5 - Avus Blue, Dec Car! 96' M3 Saloon - Estoril Blue 94' M3 3.0 Convertible 91' E34 M5 - 3.6, Macau Blue *E36 M3's Breaking* |
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paddy_d2k2 ![]() Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2006 Location: Co. Kildare Status: Offline Points: 245 |
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Ben...I'm still intersested, either of the dates mentioned suit me. Better for getting it dyno'd too!! Is there a location? Cheers |
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b318isp ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 10-October-2002 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2057 |
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Ben, I would, but I would like for it to be reasonably local. Also, as it's an MPV, I'd need the price to be firm. They are often not easy to access specific parts or areas!
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denishogan ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() What’s this title thing about then? Joined: 29-March-2005 Location: Limerick, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 814 |
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I'd be on for that Ben - did you mean the 24th/25th (26th is a Monday)?
If so, the 24th would be ideal for me - I have plans on the Sunday unfortunately. Also, I assume he'd get more than the 8-10bhp out of the tds?!? I'll start saving now!! Thanks for doing all the inquiries! ![]() |
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llatsni ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() work in progress Joined: 22-February-2005 Location: dublinia Status: Offline Points: 963 |
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IMO a dyno before and after a mapping should be of paramount priority to anyone considering getting this done. Any "tuner" who claims their maps will give X performance increase but who is unwilling to individually prove it by dyno is seriously taking the piss. I'd go so far to say that i'd demand a minimum improvement or your money back guarantee; be that based on economy, power or both. I really fail to see how generic maps that are merely uploaded to your ecu are of any benefit to the vast majority of cars, turbo's being a possible exception (but even then the potential downsides on longevity etc. can be worrying). The only way mapping can possibly be of noticible benefit is if it is done live - i.e. data logged from your car in action and the stock map modified to take-advantage-of/iron-out the unique "qualities" of your engine. Usually this is only really worth it, particularly on modern adaptive ecu's, if the engine has been modified in some way.
Alot of people have been burned here in the past by grand claims that were in no way delivered. It CAN work, it CAN work very very well. But do your research, inform yourselves before you fork out a substantial amount of cash for this particular service. |
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Ben O Brien ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-August-2004 Location: Limerick,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1205 |
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@ Brendan, Yeah the price is firm, your car would respond very well indeed, VAG group tdi's are one of the most popular cars to be remapped, @ Denis, try 185 bhp!! Though you can tell him what you want be it economy or power or whatever as these are live maps. @ llatsni, Yes i agree totally, hence going to TDP, he gave off the impression of honesty and integrity. Which cant be said of a lot, Martin at westward i found very difficult to get hold of and TTM have no interest, I feel TDP fit the bill quite well. Everyone ive spoken to today that have dealt with Robbie before have only positive things to say and he is well respected in the motorsport industry. The fact that his dyno tests are so thorough before and after and hence showing any gains IMO shows his service to be decent and honest??
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99' 728i Sport 98' E39 M5 - Avus Blue, Dec Car! 96' M3 Saloon - Estoril Blue 94' M3 3.0 Convertible 91' E34 M5 - 3.6, Macau Blue *E36 M3's Breaking* |
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Ben O Brien ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-August-2004 Location: Limerick,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1205 |
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99' 728i Sport 98' E39 M5 - Avus Blue, Dec Car! 96' M3 Saloon - Estoril Blue 94' M3 3.0 Convertible 91' E34 M5 - 3.6, Macau Blue *E36 M3's Breaking* |
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Fey! ![]() Bavarian-Board Contributor ![]() ![]() Funs over, Scotty; beam down my clothes! Joined: 28-February-2005 Location: Galway Status: Offline Points: 4161 |
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Sounds good. Nice work, Ben. I'm up for the Sunday - will be working the Saturday and Monday, and no chance of time off for me in February. Can he give you coordinates for GPS systems - might be easier for people to find. |
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Gonzo ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 15-January-2007 Location: Kildare, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 91 |
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Ok I am interested but am trying to find out more info before deciding fully to commit to it. Everyone mentions the positives but I'm having trouble coming up with a balanced view. What are the negatives to tuning an engine to this level if there are any?
Oh and I'd be on for the Sunday if I commit. I think that the dyno before and after is a good thing. The benefits can be shown. |
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Ben O Brien ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-August-2004 Location: Limerick,Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1205 |
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Yes your right Gonzo, I would imagine any negatives would be slightly more wear on Turbo etc due to higher boosting but i did about 20k on my chipped TDs and it had absolutely no trouble once serviced regulary, There is a happy medium with all mapping you can get 1000 bhp with a turbo car but dont expect it to drive any further than out of the garage!!!
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