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M3AG ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() 7 series & e36 m3 registrar! (Madness) Joined: 17-October-2002 Location: Good Old Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 1644 |
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ah, that'll be it then!
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Horsetan ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
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Errm, because it might be a bit *discreet kof!* over-rated? At the end of the day, it's still a "Highline" of an age which is just ripe for rust to begin.... |
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M3AG ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() 7 series & e36 m3 registrar! (Madness) Joined: 17-October-2002 Location: Good Old Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 1644 |
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why does this motorsport appear to not attract any bids at all?
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Horsetan ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
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There is also this nice little late '87 car on e-Bay
The seller is the same one who is trying to flog this "Motorsport" Highline Six.... Edited by Horsetan |
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Brucey ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 07-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 744 |
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oh yes.......
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Horsetan ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
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There's just the little matter of wing panels, eh, Brucey? ![]() |
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Brucey ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 07-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 744 |
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I have to agree with Howard's choice- Mine's an early '87 with the half-decent highline style brakes, chrome bumpers, and retaining the high compression engine. I like it a lot. (It'll be even better when I've finished it). I've never had mine maxed out, but I've seen some big numbers, including an indicated 100mph in second gear (that'll be the switchable auto with the 3.07 diff then). I didn't go out looking for an auto, but I bought this one thinking I might change it for a 'proper' gearbox later. Now I'm not sure I'll bother; where I'd only rate an old-style auto box as good enough for 5/10ths efforts, the I rate the switchable auto box as good enough for 8/10ths efforts on the throttle and 7/10ths efforts round corners and on the brakes. This is no good on the race-track, but matches ideally with the sort of 'press-on' driving that is occasionally possible on the road, and is high praise coming from someone like me who would otherwise heel and toe out of habit and has pointedly refused to have anything to do with several vehicles where the pedals weren't set out 'just so'. I'd agree that they are all great cars too..... cheers
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Horsetan ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
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Or "135" down an empty A1(M)... ![]() "Good enough for me" ![]() |
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Howard ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Did I say thaaaat? Joined: 14-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 735 |
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Well as a guy who has been driving these cars for the last ten years or so, with at least 5 different models, the one that I would look for is the car manufactured between January and April 1987. They have most of the advantages of the Highline and no plastic/alloy bumpers.
Mine always seemed to go a bit quicker than the others. However, as I am now stuck with a 1988 Highline with 35K on the clock, (did 139 mph with four up in a run against a Merc in Germany last year) and a beat up M6 with 22.5K which is a little faster than that, I don't think that I will be in the market for a long time. They are all great cars, and chrome or plastic, 635 or M635, they still go round Croft in under two minutes, and do Rotterdam to Tihany in Hungary in 12 hours 3 up. Good enough for me! ![]() |
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AndyS ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() The Last of the Few Joined: 21-August-2003 Location: 55 � North Status: Offline Points: 1365 |
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It's not on the logbook but I have a copy of the dealers specification enquiry which lists it as option 129. It also lists the other options, lsd etc. as well. I was told the Motorsport had the M635 suspension but I don't know for sure. Mine had Bilstein gas shocks put on by the previous owner not long before I bought it. I'm told they make a big difference. Colour would be a good indication. Misano Red, Nogaro Silver & Macau Blue are the colours but I've a feeling you could get the Macau anyway. At the end of the day it was a "selected options" special so you could have a Motorsport without it being a Motorsport, if you see what I mean. |
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Leroyhighline ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 20-January-2005 Status: Offline Points: 39 |
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Thanks, but i think i will keep the money you know as well as me we need it all for petrol
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Horsetan ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
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You could always order an information certificate from BMW Mobile Tradition - assuming you feel like parting with 50 Euro.... |
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Leroyhighline ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 20-January-2005 Status: Offline Points: 39 |
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Hi Andy is there anything official on the log book that tells you if you have a Motorsport edition 635, mine has all of the features above but not sure of the suspension (how do you find out)
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Horsetan ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
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Brucey ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 07-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 744 |
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In all fairness (although I'm not in favour of heavy cars if the extra weight serves no real purpose) I would concede that Andy has a point- you could have a fully loaded chrome bumper car that was heavier than a highline with no toys. But most of them are not like this. Actually, I don't think a 6er needs to be loaded up with toys to be considered a luxury coupe; this much is kind of built-in. On the other hand (like any sports car) it needs all the power, weight loss and handling it can get if performance is at all important. Up to a point, there is no such thing as too much of any of them. To some extent I suppose it boils down to an aesthetic thing in the end. I used to race bicycles and I still ride them and motorcycles. Both these things can instil in you a powerful sense of what is right in terms of lightweight engineering construction for performance. Anything that doesn't work well enough and/or is too heavy just gets junked. Even though it doesn't really matter any more, to this day I can't bear to see something any heavier than it needs to be on my bikes; it just upsets me -like a defaced work of art it isn't the thing it was, should or could be. I'm generally not so fussed about cars but the same logic applies. For instance, I remember being very pleased to see that the original Lotus Elise had aluminium composite brake discs and went as fast or faster than many more powerful and exotic cars, without the benefit of big horsepower. I even remember being pleased to see the absolutely minimalist quality of the stereo Lotus offered- like everything else it was pared down to almost nothing yet still worked very well. A design like that is the product of a very single-minded approach to everything, sparing no quarter. Extra weight for no gain or a non-performance gain is the simple antithesis of the above approach; whilst I would agree a 6 series is never going to be a lightweight sports car in the same vein as a lotus, there is definitely scope for altering it for the better, without losing those things that make it the (almost iconic) car it is. Less weight, more power and better handling please, not the other way round. Just my two pence worth..... cheers
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AndyS ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() The Last of the Few Joined: 21-August-2003 Location: 55 � North Status: Offline Points: 1365 |
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It's no good grovelling, I can't do anything about your double parietal hair whorl . . . . . . just get a No.1 ! |
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Horsetan ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
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AndyS ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() The Last of the Few Joined: 21-August-2003 Location: 55 � North Status: Offline Points: 1365 |
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Not so much the point as the relevance. Yes the Highlines do have a lot of unnecessary kit (as do non-Highlines) but without it they wouldn’t be “luxury” coupes would they. BMW have tried selling lightweights before – the original & M3 CSL’s. People just load them back up with all the toys. Yes, the Highline bumpers are big & heavy – but they do serve a purpose. I accept Highlines are heavier and while the non-Highline I’ve driven wasn’t back to back it wasn’t night & day. On a track in competition where a 10th second can make a difference it’s relevant – but on the road ? Sohlman claims a 50 yard advantage down a sliproad. From what he’s told me about the difference in braking systems between Highlines & pre-Highlines I could gain it all back after a few corners! The power to weight advantage is small (139 to 149bhp/tonne) and after all the Six is not a sports car in the way a similar age Porsche 911 is. I'm as tuned in as anybody thanks. As for hairdressers – how do you know I’m not one? |
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Sohlman ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Coupe Chairman Joined: 19-August-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 1259 |
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The best i got was 16.28. I can only presume that as santa pod runs up hill that is where the difference occours. |
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