Donington Park 27th September
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Topic: Donington Park 27th September
Posted By: B 7 VP
Subject: Donington Park 27th September
Date Posted: 06-July-2004 at 10:47
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Safety is the No 1 priorty , and the M team supervise so that an enjoyable day can be acheived .Members Price per Car & Driver is £180 , Passenger £40 . Location is M1 - Junc 23A. Booking forms from 01 225 709009 www. bmwcarclubgb.co.uk ------------- SAFETYFAST |
BMW Car Club are holdng a Better Driving Day, at this open visability circuit.Large grassed areas are close to the circuit.First time drivers are welcome, and will be given instruction within their own groups.Instructors will go with you, if required.Replies:
Posted By: falkster
Date Posted: 06-July-2004 at 11:01
I remember those grassed areas, although I was going backwards across them. It was a great day last year ------------- Z3M Roadster (gone....just...but not forgotten...yet) E30 M3 (Toy) Alfa 147 (just gone) BMW 330d (new work horse) Daimler Double 6 (no idea yet) |
B 7 VP wrote:Posted By: encomium
Date Posted: 19-July-2004 at 18:58
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are there any more details like, approx track time, how many cars total etc... I can't seem to find a link on the main webpage ------------- 94 E36 M3 Coupe 
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Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 19-July-2004 at 19:58
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IIRC last year we had about 8 x 20 minutes sessions per group ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: grant w
Date Posted: 21-July-2004 at 22:24
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so how many people have allready booked ??
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www.redevom3.co.uk 1989 e30 m3 2.5 1996 e36 m3 evo , sold 2002 e46 m3 smg . 1991 Daihatsu 2.8 TD Work Horse Rust Never Sleeps . Tattooed Lady - Bearded Baby - there my family .. |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 21-July-2004 at 22:48
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Grant...You know I have but have you??? ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 21-July-2004 at 22:59
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Want an IAM presence John ? ------------- Best Wishes Nigel |
Posted By: B 7 VP
Date Posted: 22-July-2004 at 08:24
 Yes, good idea!!!!------------- SAFETYFAST |
Posted By: barf
Date Posted: 28-July-2004 at 23:41
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kevin, i'll see you there. somehow i missed you at croft. come and say hello |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 28-July-2004 at 23:58
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You were at Croft!!!
Sorry we missed you, we will find you at Donington. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: barf
Date Posted: 29-July-2004 at 16:21
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i'm amazed that you did'nt here me coming!! that stainless system lets eveybody know where im at on any circuit. N8 ARF, the green e36 coupe kev, is it you car with the M3 Ceccotto plate? any body interested in a low milage schnitzer suspension kit for e36 coupe, please let me know. it will be a good price! it was £750 +vat last july from rossiters. i'm picking up a bilstein pss9 kit tommorow from ecp. |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 29-July-2004 at 16:29
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I saw/heard your car many times but never got to catch you around it.
Yep, thanks my car. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: barf
Date Posted: 29-July-2004 at 23:50
i cover health & safety at our place and have endless supplies of ear plugs.....i'll take some to donington for you!  coz mi green machine might have been de-catted by then. hope to release some more ponies and show these e46 m3's a hard time 
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Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 31-July-2004 at 21:42
Yes.. I'm laughing as well! ..seriously though, a word of warning.. take it from me.. I learned the hard way.. My old Hartge 325 was so 'trick' I thought I could show any E30 M3 the way round Cadwell Park.. the trouble was that I was always on the limit, when at the same pace the M3 still had a little up it's sleeve. One day I pushed a little too hard trying to get that little extra down the old start finish.. unfortunately for me 'Barn' is an unforgiving son of a bitch and with too much opposite lock I kissed the armco and flipped the car. Don't let the mods fool you into thinking you have a M3 eater.. it's still a 328.. a very quick little 328 now, but still a 328. Not that that's a bad thing, far from it.. just remember to respect your machine and she'll bring you home every time. Nick Croft'05 |
Posted By: barf
Date Posted: 05-August-2004 at 16:10
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nick, have to agree with you. the car isnt a m3 but is a 328..with many mods to enhance the ride /handlind and braking. since croft 04, i've taken the opportunity to modify the car further, not with the intention of trying to out-perform other cars, but to make life easier for the car with more suited components (a bilstein pss9 suspension kit and some modified brakes). my driving abilities will slowly improve, but with a car which is more capable when driven on track. i'm not really looking for a m3 eater, just something which is quick, reliable, fun and above all SAFE! ive taken on board your comments and will learn from them (especially the cadwell park bit...ouch that must've hurt) as the last thing that i want is to over do it to the point where the cars being dragged out of the armco with a tractor! i am still very much a novice with 4 bdd outings under my belt and look forward to donington bdd with a new approach from my last outings, and try to build up the speed/pace with more expert tuition from people like chris rossiter! i'll take that baby home in one peice, with a little smile on my face knowing that ive learnt something new and had a great day out. lookind forward to croft05 already! Best regards Barf
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Posted By: Gyrock
Date Posted: 11-August-2004 at 09:25
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Form sent, looking forward to the day in my new machine. After winning the Raffle at Croft - I'm wondering is there a similar prize at Donny ------------- 
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Posted By: SimonTay
Date Posted: 11-August-2004 at 22:24
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To all who are interested, I plan to be at Donington with my cameras (and Gaydon in a couple of weeks). http://www.miodem.com/photo - www.miodem.com/photo - now moving to http://www.phooto.co.uk - www.phooto.co.uk . ------------- www.miodem.com Photos at www.phooto.co.uk |
Posted By: Timray
Date Posted: 31-August-2004 at 06:14
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Simon, I have used your old address, www.miodem.com, in the
article about Croft for the BMW CC magazine. Does this need to be changed or will miodem continue to work for a while? I don't know the publication date, although Nick might. Regards to all (hi Barf), Tim |
Posted By: B 7 VP
Date Posted: 31-August-2004 at 08:36
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Club Mag.
Copy Dates............1-9-04 for 1-10-04 , 1-11-04 for 1-12-04 , 1-1-05 for 1-2-05 . ------------- SAFETYFAST |
Posted By: angusdawe
Date Posted: 02-September-2004 at 09:32
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Is there a noise limit that day, and if so what is it? I look forward to coming along. Forms in the post.
Who are the instructors?... and can they cope with a CSL snapping sideways at 120 mph in the second craner without freaking (Like Calum Lockie did!) ------------- 2003 M3 CSL 2003 GSXR1000 ..Anyone know where I can buy cup tyres on a Sunday? |
Posted By: B 7 VP
Date Posted: 02-September-2004 at 12:36
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Think its 105 Db,s- Ohhhhhhhhhh 120 thru craner 2 ,sideways -- Left OR Right??, no prob-- Gaby,s CSL can form a duet with Calem, Just hope both gearboxes are in gear at this point!!! ------------- SAFETYFAST |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 02-September-2004 at 12:46
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Looking at the Donington Park Website it would appear there are two noise standards.
The "standard" which is upto 98dba drive by and the "premium" over 98dba drive by. I suspect the 27th Sept will be a "standard" day as this costs less. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: angusdawe
Date Posted: 02-September-2004 at 12:48
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The left hander before the old hairpin. Calum was a passenger in my CSL when it happened (twice). The suspension is being uprated to rid the car of the bush un-wind effect that causes it. Quite scary if you're not expecting it!! New KW stuff will be on in time to try it out on the 27th. ------------- 2003 M3 CSL 2003 GSXR1000 ..Anyone know where I can buy cup tyres on a Sunday? |
Posted By: SimonTay
Date Posted: 02-September-2004 at 13:36
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miodem.com or phooto.co.uk are OK, but all the pictures are moving to phooto. I have links to the new site, so there should not be too much confusion. Simon ------------- www.miodem.com Photos at www.phooto.co.uk |
Posted By: StuB
Date Posted: 20-September-2004 at 15:27
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Booked on to this one (eventually) and looking forward to it. Had a ride round in an Exige in June and until then I had no idea of the size of the drop down craner or the rise back up under Scwantz, in spite of many days spent watching. Just need some decent weather now (or pi$$ing rain if I want to show Giles in his new CSL (on pilot cups) the way round). ------------- Boost baby, BOOST! |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 20-September-2004 at 15:40
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Looking forward to seeing you there Stu.
Nice article in Total BMW, are you bringing your camera crew again?. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Phil-C
Date Posted: 21-September-2004 at 04:25
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Is there okay to come and spectate?
I will (hopefully) have my car back from the bodyshop and am off work so may come along. What time is it starting? Thanks, Phil |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 21-September-2004 at 04:29
If it follows the same format as last year the briefing is around 8 - 8:30 then the first group on track at 9am. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Phil-C
Date Posted: 21-September-2004 at 04:31
| Credit cards? |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 21-September-2004 at 04:33
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Yep the club will accept them.
Call the club office after 10. It would be good to see you on track. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: StuB
Date Posted: 21-September-2004 at 15:26
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Kev, I was so chuffed with the article. The anticipation of not knowing what they were gonna say, "more roll than a burger van" type stuff was painful. It was also amazing to go around in the ACS Z3 which is well sorted and I'm gutted it's new owner, Bryn can't make the trip. Camera not in attendance this time and I've a new set of tyres to look after too. Still, I found the pipe from the hairdryer wasn't correctly connected after Croft (at Gaydon) so it's a flying machine again now See you there. ------------- Boost baby, BOOST! |
Posted By: Phil-C
Date Posted: 22-September-2004 at 04:55
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Kevin,
I won't know untill thursday/friday whether I will have my car back before next week. Can I pay on the day? or at earliest friday? Also is a Simpson Bandit helmet okay? as they are not ACU but are well acredited by different standards. Also Also, my car has a SS pipe which is a touch noisier than standard but do not know how many db's. Is the noise measurement taken on the start/finish? if so is it possible to coast past? and how load is 98db anyway? Sorry loads of rambling questions but is stuff I need to know. Cheers, Phil |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 22-September-2004 at 05:18
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I would suggest you ask the club office if there are any places available and if there are when/how can you pay.
Unless your exhaust has had the silencers removed I would think you would be fine. What SS system do you have? The helmet you refer to has SA2000 accreditation which I would expect will be fine. My documents arrived this morning and we are asked to be at the circuit between 7:30 - 8:30 whith signing on available upto 8:45. Hope this helps ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Phil-C
Date Posted: 22-September-2004 at 07:15
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Thanks,
The exhaust is a long life jobbie, but it passes the MOT so I would have thought it's okay. I'll give the club a call to find out about instructors etc as it will be my first trackday in my car (shamefully after 3 years of ownership!). Thanks again, Phil |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 22-September-2004 at 10:16
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Phil
One of the good things about the Club Better Driving Days is that novices such as your goodself are very well looked after. I still remember my first day on track and how relieved I was to discover it isn't a complete free for all but very well controlled. There are rules for overtaking which makes it a coperative activity with the person being overtaken have control. As it is your first time there well be an extended briefing for you and other first timers. There are plenty of instructors to assist you in learning the braking points and correct lines to take. Your exhaust will be fine. Cheers Cheers ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 26-September-2004 at 11:59
I wasn't.. don't get me wrong the story on Stu's car was very good.. it's just that they promised me a splash on Croft'04. Maybe they thought it wouldnt make good reading. Nick Croft'05 |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 26-September-2004 at 13:25
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Nick,
I noticed the lack of Croft '04 coverage but hopefully you can turn that to your advantage when it comes to promoting Croft '05. Are you attending Donington? If you are it will be good to see you there. I have been watching the BTCC chaps dragging all the dirt and gravel onto OUR track!!! ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: B 7 VP
Date Posted: 26-September-2004 at 14:37
 No Grasscutting Or pushing along, as per BTCC  ------------- SAFETYFAST |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 26-September-2004 at 15:35
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The BTCC Masters was a great laugh.
Shame Tim Harvey took Johnny Cecotto off at Redgate, that corner seems to be a jinx for Tim. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: SimonTay
Date Posted: 27-September-2004 at 15:39
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Pictures from Donington are available at http://www.phooto.co.uk./ - www.phooto.co.uk. They are in this order (to try and make finding your car a bit easier) : B - Black G - Green and Olivin L - Blue/Purple M - Multicoloured O - Orange R - Red S - Silver and Grey (lots here...) W - White X - Paddock and group pics Y - Yellow About 180 pictures here, I hope I've got everyone in, if you want to see you car - it MAY be in the other 600 or so I have, please email me your registration number, colour and car type - I'll have a look! Most of the best pictures I have are up on the web though. ------------- www.miodem.com Photos at www.phooto.co.uk |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 27-September-2004 at 16:04
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Simon,
Great shots as always, hope you managed to avoid the chaos that is normally called the M1. It added an hour to our trip home. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: StuB
Date Posted: 27-September-2004 at 16:38
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Nick, if you want Matt Robison's e-mail let me know. I saw a small acknowledgement only re Croft '05. Simon, thanks - some great pics there. Again, thanks to the organisers. Sylv and I really enjoyed ourselves again - just ran out of brake pads in the afternoon. ------------- Boost baby, BOOST! |
Posted By: SimonTay
Date Posted: 27-September-2004 at 17:27
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I got TMC in the new car, so it gave me a diversion via Dunstable. Probably added a half hour to the journey. Got home about 18:15, left at 15:45 or so. ------------- www.miodem.com Photos at www.phooto.co.uk |
Posted By: jon90
Date Posted: 27-September-2004 at 17:34
Took me two hours to get there,and four to get back 
well worth the trip though Jon |
Posted By: angusdawe
Date Posted: 28-September-2004 at 09:18
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Anyone here want to gloat about my CSL completely embarrassing the two GT3RS's at Donington yesterday...
Hope you all noticed!
mine was the noisy CSL by the way.... ------------- 2003 M3 CSL 2003 GSXR1000 ..Anyone know where I can buy cup tyres on a Sunday? |
Posted By: B 7 VP
Date Posted: 28-September-2004 at 13:17
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NO!! didnt notice--where were you then, were you the Gold coloured car???. Cups on a Sunday---No prob!!! Ask Giles , he got 4!!!!!!!!! ------------- SAFETYFAST |
Posted By: angusdawe
Date Posted: 29-September-2004 at 05:36
No, the Silver grey CSL with SuperSprint exhuast and removed Airbox flap. The fast one.... ------------- 2003 M3 CSL 2003 GSXR1000 ..Anyone know where I can buy cup tyres on a Sunday? |
Posted By: grant w
Date Posted: 29-September-2004 at 12:50
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angus
i'm glad you enjoyed the day , don't forget us next time the BM3W organise another trackday .. -------------
www.redevom3.co.uk 1989 e30 m3 2.5 1996 e36 m3 evo , sold 2002 e46 m3 smg . 1991 Daihatsu 2.8 TD Work Horse Rust Never Sleeps . Tattooed Lady - Bearded Baby - there my family .. |
Posted By: angusdawe
Date Posted: 30-September-2004 at 09:25
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Will do. We usually do Combe and charge around £100. Loads of CSL's and AMG's.. I didn't forget last time! I tried to get it added to the BMWCC events calendar, but a bit of apathy from the club admin meant it never got posted. It was a good day too! Next time ------------- 2003 M3 CSL 2003 GSXR1000 ..Anyone know where I can buy cup tyres on a Sunday? |
Posted By: barf
Date Posted: 30-September-2004 at 13:51
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hiya lads, i do hope that brian and the boys continue to organise the CSL bdd at donington as it is just fantastic, even when its wet. the CSL day certainly lived upto its name with around 6 m3 CSL's and a lovely original 3.0 ltr CSL. the dry line which appeared just before lunch was a welcome sight and allowed a full throttle attack into craner curves. had the odd butt clenching moment here and there though, especially through starkies in the wet and redgate is still a problem corner for me (any body agree). the sparco buckets along with the suspension tweeks have been a significant success....i am now skint!! its always nice to put a face to a name (hello kevin, lovely car by the way) and looking forward to next years BMWCC BDD calendar. oddly, donington was the first time that i did'nt have tuition at a circuit....yet, its the first bdd ive attended where i hav'nt had a spin!
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Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 30-September-2004 at 14:50
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Hi, barf.
You were certainly on it all day. Thanks for the kind comments about the car. We enjoyed ourselves hugely but, like you, I found Redgate a challenge to get right. The icing on the cake was the passing 2 CSL's in the wet during the last session I guess the Pilot Cup's ran out of grip. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: grant w
Date Posted: 01-October-2004 at 07:55
angus next time just post it on this forum yourself . -------------
www.redevom3.co.uk 1989 e30 m3 2.5 1996 e36 m3 evo , sold 2002 e46 m3 smg . 1991 Daihatsu 2.8 TD Work Horse Rust Never Sleeps . Tattooed Lady - Bearded Baby - there my family .. |
Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 01-October-2004 at 13:29
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Angus,
Let me know what sort of events you are wanting to promote and if I can help you by getting the club to take notice then I will. Don't forget though that for the club to give you it's support the event has to be for BMWCC members only. Nick |