brake pads E30 M3 Evo2
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Topic: brake pads E30 M3 Evo2
Posted By: M3Nally
Subject: brake pads E30 M3 Evo2
Date Posted: 05-April-2004 at 15:21
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My wear indicator has just come on, so new pads needed me thinks.
I'll have to check whether it's front or rears or both. I seem to remember the pads were green when I was underneath inspecting it when I bought it. If so they may be EBC pads. I have been quite happy with these but if anyone else has a recommendation then I'll listen. Also where to buy them? Thanks as ever. Kevin |
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 05-April-2004 at 15:24
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buy them direct here http://www.ebcbrakes.com - www.ebcbrakes.com ------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
Posted By: Teflon
Date Posted: 05-April-2004 at 21:02
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Kevin, How about Pagid? Just got a set from Moseley for about £36.00 if i remember correctly. Seem very good to me. Cheers Graham |
Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 05-April-2004 at 21:08
| Ferodo DS2500. Got mine from Demon Tweeks I think it was . |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 05-April-2004 at 21:14
I have been using Pagid Fast Road pads (on grooved discs which are reputed to eat pads) and have done two track days. The pad wear warning light came on after the last, Rockingham, but when I checked it was because the sensor wire had rubbed against the wheel rim. The pads have loads of life left. Maybe I'm not braking enough  I would recommend them, despite the fact that they take a while to warm up.
Opps forgot to say where I bought them...Cooks Ferry. I have the reference number somewhere if needed. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 06-April-2004 at 12:31
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kevin
I believe that someone on the forum used the ebc and recommednded not to use them. as u know i have an evo II as well. heres what I tried and found best new oem disks and ferrodo ds2500 - stopping power not great and bite not great. new oem disks and Mintec fast road pads - v good bite and stopping power. have also drained the brake fluid for mintek blue which has a higher boiling point. ------------- |
Posted By: cecotto147
Date Posted: 06-April-2004 at 12:41
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What grooved disks have you been using as mine are due a replacement soon, judging by receipts and mileage. (Will find out for def when it gets serviced i suppose). Do they do a grooved disk for the back and why are the rear disks bigger than the front? |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 06-April-2004 at 13:30
If you are asking me  then I have Pagid 8 Groove discs on the front. An added bonus is that they are slightly darker that the standard discs and blend quite nicely with the black wheel centres.
I'm not sure if they do any for the back as I felt ok with the standard setup, albeit new, on the back as the majority of the work is handled by the fronts. I steered well away from drilled discs as I kept hearing stories of them cracking. Now to use one of the "new" smilies..hmmm..  ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: cecotto147
Date Posted: 06-April-2004 at 16:14
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Thanks, i was asking. How are they price wise? They seem to bear up fairly well from what you have said. And right to steer clear of drilled, the first bit of standing water will do wonders to a hot disk! Mmm, interesting.... |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 06-April-2004 at 16:22
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If I recall correctly they were around £200 for the front discs and the pads were £40 ish for the front set. I think that is quite a bit more than the standard ones but I had heard good reports on them and I'm pleased so far.
Just to keep Killian happy  ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 06-April-2004 at 17:45
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Guys,
EBC are not the brand to choose if you use the M3 on track.. they don't like an intense build up of heat.. and that is exactly what you get with the E30 M3.. I cooked a set within two laps of Donington, which is not nice if you are up to your limit approaching the Old Hairpin!! I know several others who will echo my comments. Not that EBC are so bad.. you just need to check the application.. a lot of Caterfield drivers swear by them.. I'm afraid I just swore at them!! If it is just a standard set up you want that will work on and off the track, you can't beat Eamo's suggestion of standard discs and Mintex 1144s or 1155s. .. but as for that wear indicator.. throw it away.. it only measures one side of the car.. which I suppose is acceptable on smooth camber free German roads.. but not ideal on our bumpy, cambered blacktop, let alone a racing circuit that is mainly clockwise. Don't forget that you can give your new brakes a good workout at Croft'04 !! Nick |
Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 06-April-2004 at 18:03
| Tarox G88's and Hawk HP+ and they seemed to brake 100% better than the standard OEM and never had brake fade. |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 06-April-2004 at 18:05
------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Nick wrote:Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 06-April-2004 at 18:28
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Kevin,
You know you can bring both cars don't you.. ..there is no extra charge. All you need is a trailer for the five and you get the reassurance of a drive home no matter what! Nick Croft'04 |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 06-April-2004 at 18:33
Nick...Are you suggesting that I fit a towbar to the M5 and trailer the M3 up with it?  ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 07-April-2004 at 09:32
now wouldnt that be some site! ------------- |
Posted By: cecotto147
Date Posted: 07-April-2004 at 09:37
| Go on! Do it!!! |
Posted By: M3Nally
Date Posted: 07-April-2004 at 10:09
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Thanks chaps
Having read your comment re EBC and taking into account the price, I rung around. I spoke to a chap at GSF who also has an M3. They do the Pagid, but heard they make too much dust, so I bought the Textar ones at 23.50 plus vat, which were one of those used as oem so he said. Cheap enough to chuck away if they are no good. |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 07-April-2004 at 10:25
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There are a reasonable amount of dust from mine but nothing that I would regard at too bad. Mind you I do have the black centres so it might show up more on Silvers. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: M3Nally
Date Posted: 07-April-2004 at 11:31
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Now to fitting.
I haven't changed a set of brake pads for about 8 years. Anyone know of a link E30 M3 specific or tell me how. Any special tools? Cheers Kevin |
Posted By: M BLUR
Date Posted: 07-April-2004 at 13:23
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Nick, Have you tried any of these new ceramic compound pads from TarOx, EBC etc.. what about Ferodo DS3000s...?? What's the difference between the 1144s and 1155s.. still good for the ZeeM?
------------- www.lbmracing.com 
1998 Zeemax M Roadster 2005 X5 3.0D Sport 1991 Esprit SE Race car |
Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 07-April-2004 at 14:35
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1155's are my pad of choice.. they are more metallic than the cheaper 1144 and have a greater resistance to fade.. they work hot, but are still usable from cold.. they can make a grating sound though.
..the thing that does it for me though is that the box proclaims that they are for racing use only! I cant comment on ceramics, they sound expensive.. and I have never tried DS3000 but I have heard some good comments about them. Nick |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 07-April-2004 at 15:52
I spoke with my friendly parts guy and he priced the parts up at over £1000 before any electrics and fitting but I could do the fitting myself. The towbar itself is circa £450 before VAT and a new rear bumper is over £500 before the dreaded and it would also need spraying. It might be possible to cut the bumper to fit a removeable panel but that would require the construction of something to hold it in. So unless somebody has everything needed at much, much lower price that is the end of that idea...Cheers Nick but I'll just bring the spare set of pads. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
Posted By: Nick
Date Posted: 07-April-2004 at 18:49
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Kevin,
There is a bar to fit your M5 that curls up from underneath so as not to damage the rear valance. I think it is a Witter. Electrics are easy, you dont need the alternator circuit, you just want lights. I think Richard Baxter will know which tow bar I mean. You wouldn't be the first to tow a track car with an M5. Nick |
Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 07-April-2004 at 19:03
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Nick..That is useful info. I will investigate further.
If I did go ahead then I would want a bar that is detachable so I retain my shins and also keep the lines nice and tidy. Look what you have started, my poor wallet. Ideally, I would prefer a M5 Touring but I think that is a step too far for my wife. ------------- Kevin '04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |