Need Quick advice
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Topic: Need Quick advice
Posted By: kbannon
Subject: Need Quick advice
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 14:39
After unsuccessfully trawling through adverts for a E39 528i I am going to look at a 1989 635csi (auto) later on today.
What are your opinions on this car? It was imported into Ireland two years ago with FSH & has FSH here. Cream leather in good condition. Alpina bodywork & alloys. The only negative comment the owner had was that the radio is rubbish. http://www.cbg.ie/CarPictures_large/CB194424.jpg - http://www.cbg.ie/CarPictures_large/CB194424.jpg http://www.cbg.ie/CarPictures_large/CB194424a.jpg - http://www.cbg.ie/CarPictures_large/CB194424a.jpg http://www.cbg.ie/CarPictures_large/CB194424b.jpg - http://www.cbg.ie/CarPictures_large/CB194424b.jpg
He is looking for 6 or 7K.
What should I look out for? Am I mad getting an auto? (annual road tax = 1300)
------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual
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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 16:26
Killian,
Can't really comment on what to look for, but it does look like a very nice car. Much more interesting and stylish than an E39 528. I would have thought that a big 3.5 would suit an auto box. Plenty of torque so no need to rev the nuts of it.
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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 16:29
*drools* Looks loverly
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Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 16:43
Good one Killian, once you have driven it you will want to buy it,
Ok check for rust along bottom edge of wings, put arm inside wing and have a feel around. If there is a little bit they can be repaired, but any more than an inch of rust and you are looking at a new wing. They are £450-600 each so not cheap. Also check for rust under the jacking points at the rear of the car. Have a good prod around underneath as re welding the floor, and chassi is a big job and requires most of the interior to be removed and can add up to as much cost as the wings. The rear axle mounts on here so if there is no metal you have a very dangerous car. Basically rust is an e24's biggest problem, but a well looked after waxoiled car should be fairly clean although a rust free six is almost unheard of.
Mechanically they are very strong and as long as the car has had and has evidence of frequent oil changes the M30 lump should run for ever. The M30 has an oil feeder at the top of the engine that can clog up which leads to top end oil starvation so as a first job if you buy the car this should be checked. The car should idle smoothly and if it hunts this is probable down to a worn air flow meter which can be refurbished. Another area of exspense is the exhaust which costs around £500 so should be checked.
The model in the pictures is one of the last produced highlines with rare Macau Blue coachwork and Lotus white leather. The car has electric everything and these all need to be checked as seat motors stop working usually from lack of use.
As for Auto's 635's after 1982 were all auto's with a spaterin of manuals which were ordered as a special order. They provide decent turn of speed, but are built for cruising.
Expect around 18-22mpg around town and 24-27mpg on a run.
Anything else on the car like suspensiion and bushes need changing over time as they are wear and tear items, but will wear out reasonable quickly as the car in that spec is heavy at 1650kg's.
Looks a very nice car in the pictures and those wheels are the business and you will not have to worry about the dreaded Metrics.
Have fun, you will enjoy
James
------------- Sunday 10th July Brooklands Sharkfest and Big Coupe Day. http://635csi.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/ - Coupe Events
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 16:48
Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 18:54
Horsetan wrote:
Go on go on go on go on... there are very few Sixes in Ireland, so treat yourself.
In sterling terms, it looks like a bargain, but I wouldn't want to be paying Irish road tax... |
I have, I have, I have! car is in great condition. will get a service II done asap though. Now, how does a child seat fit in the back?
------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual
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Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 19:34
sounds like you have just bought a bargain.
well done welcome to the world of sharknose ownership.
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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 19:40
Nice one!
With such a light coloured leather you'll have your work cut out keeping it clean!
I can recommend Gliptones Liquid Leather ( http://www.liquidleather.com - www.liquidleather.com ) for cleaning. Their hide food is excellent too. really makes the car smell new.
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 19:54
Haven't got her yet but just ned to get money out from bank - I'll probably pick it up on Tuesday. She needs a bit of paintwork on the (alpina) front valance & on the drivers side bumper but nothing much. 17" Alpina alloys. Electrics are going well (apparently drivers side headrest is not working 100%) Central Locking disconnected & drivers side lock looks like it should be replaced but never stolen! Bonnet supports not working. OBC Backlight is gone. Owner didn't know how to get headlamp wipers going (& I was smoking @ the time). Needs tax (1300 - aaagh)
Ivan - I like your clear indicators - where are they from?
Does owning a big 3.5L auto make me an oul fella?
------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual
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Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 22:40
Headrests always go wrong on the electric seats, Bonnet struts are very exspensive at about £60 and headlamp washer wipers almost never work. Sounds like you have a minter.
Good for you
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 26-March-2004 at 22:58
Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 27-March-2004 at 09:45
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You also need to visit http://www.bigcoupe.com - www.bigcoupe.com which will give you useful links to DIY maintenance hints and tips. You might see one or two views of my 1983 car there....[/QUOTE]
And you might see my car there to.
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Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 27-March-2004 at 11:23
I'm a little late on this but congratulations Killian, it looks like a great find. I love the Macao and white. If you get fed up with it can I buy it
------------- Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 27-March-2004 at 12:23
kevin wrote:
I'm a little late on this but congratulations Killian, it looks like a great find. I love the Macao and white. If you get fed up with it can I buy it |
'scuse me, but think I might have first refusal on a proper Irish-registered Six!
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Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 27-March-2004 at 13:48
Horsetan wrote:
'scuse me, but think I might have first refusal on a proper Irish-registered Six! |
Phew you have saved me. My wife saw my post and advised me that I was not going to get another car however nice it is until a big lottery win arrives and the garaging can be expanded to cope
------------- Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
95 E34 M5
89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)
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Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 27-March-2004 at 21:19
its B E A U T I F U L
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Posted By: MIKE 318IS
Date Posted: 27-March-2004 at 22:39
very nice
you was be proud
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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-March-2004 at 00:21
Nice car Killian, much nicer looking than a 5
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Nigel
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Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 28-March-2004 at 11:21
You know what you need Nigel
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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-March-2004 at 14:45
Sohlman wrote:
You know what you need Nigel |
I know what she who must be obeyed is promising me if I do !!!!!
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 28-March-2004 at 16:11
Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-March-2004 at 18:11
Horsetan wrote:
Nigel wrote:
I know what she who must be obeyed is promising me if I do !!!!!
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I think my profession might be able to help you both out there....! |
Ah you must be a doctor then, the rare type that specialises in removing womens voice boxes !!!!!!!!
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 28-March-2004 at 19:04
Nigel wrote:
Horsetan wrote:
Nigel wrote:
I know what she who must be obeyed is promising me if I do !!!!!
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I think my profession might be able to help you both out there....! |
Ah you must be a doctor then, the rare type that specialises in removing womens voice boxes !!!!!!!!
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you think this alone would stop 'er indoors complaining?
------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual
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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-March-2004 at 19:12
kbannon wrote:
Nigel wrote:
Horsetan wrote:
Nigel wrote:
I know what she who must be obeyed is promising me if I do !!!!!
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I think my profession might be able to help you both out there....! |
Ah you must be a doctor then, the rare type that specialises in removing womens voice boxes !!!!!!!!
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you think this alone would stop 'er indoors complaining?
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It would be a start mate, a very welcome start, I cant read sign language, so I guess I'd be ok.
Its in the bath at the moment, so all quite down here.
Heres a good one for you Killian, you being a man of the world and all that.
SHE wants the bathroom lamp removing, and six low voltage halogen spots sunk into the ceiling.
So I do all this, at great pain to myself, up in the loft wiring them etc, so all done, she goes for a bath, promptly turns all the lights out and lights half a dozen candles, explain that one !!!!!!!!
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Nigel
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 28-March-2004 at 19:16
I may be a man of the world but that will never mean that I understand the fairer sex.
------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 29-March-2004 at 10:03
Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 29-March-2004 at 10:22
Horsetan wrote:
Go on go on go on go on... there are very few Sixes in Ireland, so treat yourself.
In sterling terms, it looks like a bargain, but sure I wouldn't want to be paying Irish road tax... | What road tax do you pay? Your car doesn't display a tax (or insurance or NCT discs) but it has an Irish plate. (or should I just not go there)
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 29-March-2004 at 15:38
kbannon wrote:
What road tax do you pay? Your car doesn't display a tax (or insurance or NCT discs) but it has an Irish plate. (or should I just not go there) |
Ah, you can't see the WCUK road tax disc due to the reflection from the super-clean windscreen...
...though I have come across quite a few WCUK-registered cars in Ireland which are running about with no tax or insurance discs....
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 29-March-2004 at 15:41
What's WCUK?
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 29-March-2004 at 17:16
kbannon wrote:
What's WCUK? |
My explanation of this acronym has been sent by PM to you, as it's unfit to be sitting on the Forum...
I think you've got the message now....
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Posted By: Howard
Date Posted: 29-March-2004 at 23:34
Killian
Glad to see that you have a proper car at last. I have 4 of them, and I think they are great! Tax over here is a lot cheaper. I could tax around 7 for the price of one in Ireland. They are also great on the track. I use TRX tyres. I've tried all sorts of others, including Yokohamas, but find TRX are the ones for wear and grip. My latest 6 series - 1988 - white with lotus leather, came with two brand new ones in the boot and an original spare. Cost a bit more than yours but you cannot be lucky all of the time. I see the Alpina Wheels, but what is Alpina about the body?
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 29-March-2004 at 23:53
just the front wing & (I had thought) the 2 stripes down the side
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 29-March-2004 at 23:55
Howard wrote:
Killian
Glad to see that you have a proper car at last. |
Ooooh, red rag to a bull, methinks....
Howard wrote:
...Tax over here is a lot cheaper. I could tax around 7 for the price of one in Ireland. |
...until Gordon Brown wakes up to this...
Howard wrote:
I use TRX tyres. I've tried all sorts of others, including Yokohamas, but find TRX are the ones for wear and grip... |
This is not what I've found in the last 7+ years.... The Avon Turbospeed CR28s are useless in rain, snow, mud... and on tarmac...
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Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 30-March-2004 at 10:46
I can't agree with you that TRX's are good howard. IMHO they are the worst tyre i have ever used in every category i care to think of other than some Camac remoulds that i once had on my first car which were just diabolical.
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Posted By: Horsetan
Date Posted: 30-March-2004 at 10:51
Sohlman wrote:
I can't agree with you that TRX's are good howard. IMHO they are the worst tyre i have ever used ... |
TRXs are suitable for the following categories:
1) the purist, who doesn't mind losing the back end every so often;
2) show/concours use (if you spend your life exhibiting at shows, then you'll not need much else!);
3) people who can't afford imperial-sized alloys at the moment, and are therefore trapped into paying out for non-standard tyres
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Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 30-March-2004 at 20:19
Completely agree horsey
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 30-March-2004 at 21:01
Anyway, back to the original topic, it is with deep regret that I will not be buying this motor.
Went out in better light and properly equipped (including a BMW specialist [thanks Robert Harrison - see http://www.bmwcarclubgb.co.uk/regions/irlnd/contacts.asp?page=2 - BMW Irish Contacts ]) and spent a good while going over the car.
Anyway, together, we noticed a lot more than I did in my brief (excited) inspection last Friday. While the car is good overall it will contains too many small patches of rust, has been heavily resprayed (barely notice), boot & rear footwells are damp / wet, diff is covered in oil & there is a large damp spot under the fuel tank.
The engine would also require a new camshaft (I had initially thought it was just valves).
Furthermore, the fact that he is giving first refusal to someone who rang him after me (he offered more than I did), was another nail in the coffin.
Sadly, this is not going to be for me. Sorry, Howard but I'll have do without a 'proper' car for another while. Looks like it is back to the 5 series hunt again.
------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual
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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 30-March-2004 at 22:11
Thats a shame Killian, but better you find out before you buy it.
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 30-March-2004 at 22:15
I decided not to take it as I know it is just going to be a money pit. Ah well, such is life.
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Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 30-March-2004 at 22:20
The right one is out there for you. I didn't believe it when buying my two but everything comes to those who wait (or know what is right).
It's frustrating but nothing like as bad as regretting the purchase.
Good Luck
------------- Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
95 E34 M5
89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)
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Posted By: Sohlman
Date Posted: 30-March-2004 at 22:26
Hang in there Killian.
With Persaverance comes rewards (Can't spell)
There are good sixes out there
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Posted By: Howard
Date Posted: 31-March-2004 at 23:50
Not to worry Killian. I'm just about to put two of my sixes on sale (including th eone that I drove to Dublin in for your first show) so see the club adverts page some time next week for a silly low price. Two for the price of one, with a set of 35,000 mile Michelin TRxs with 5 track days, 10K miles and still 5mm tread on each! So it hops a bit - all part of the fun. And I can afford to buy 4 sets of new alloys if I want to. When my wife buys anything that originates in France I automatically throw it in the bin. She thinks that Michelins are made in Spain.
On the other car are a set of Avons. They do not last at all.
Just for reference, I am a bit of a purist, but I hate concours - which is why my super M6 with only 20K on the clock will probably be on the track (complete with Michelin TRXs) at Croft in June.
Good hunting Killian - if you want me to find you a nice Six, let me know by PM.
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Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 01-April-2004 at 00:04
Howard wrote:
Just for reference, I am a bit of a purist, but I hate concours - which is why my super M6 with only 20K on the clock will probably be on the track (complete with Michelin TRXs) at Croft in June. |
It would be good to see you, and your M6 (double my M3) at Croft on July 5th.
------------- Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
95 E34 M5
89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)
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