E39,E61 Touring
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Printed Date: 29-April-2024 at 17:14
Topic: E39,E61 Touring
Posted By: johne46
Subject: E39,E61 Touring
Date Posted: 12-November-2014 at 20:47
Hi been looking for a new work horse BMW Touring (SAAB IS UP FOR SALE)  need room for the dog Bit stuck has i do like the E61 525d but there is one or two down south that are E39s and they look fab I even went to see a E39 525d near me was £3500 with just 90,000 on the clock FBMWSH!!! was a lots of rust/ clean but it was just starting to brake out on the front wings sills Now i know its not going be a new car at that price but i have seen better Is there anyone out there had E39s or even a E60 E61 touring can tell me what to look out for I know what to look for in bodywork service and books even the chat about swirl flaps!!! Any more info would be a help on any of the 2  -------------  M3 Evo 4 door |
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Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 13-November-2014 at 07:44
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Air suspension at the back end can be expensive to fix. Not sure if the E39s have it but I think the E61s have it. High mileage and at that age mean the air seals can start to fail. But it's like anything on an old car it might be fine and give you no trouble. The E39 is a good looking car I still miss mine..... ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: Bob P
Date Posted: 13-November-2014 at 17:38
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E61 diversity amplifier in taigate. Check radio and key remote work ok and all lights etc in tailgate as wiring in hinges can get damaged. Also make sure radiator heats up fairly quickly as thermostats go. Not expensive to buy thermostats but they are a sod to fix. Wiring also difficult to get at in tailgate hinges. Cambell and Paul did mine!u ------------- E61 530D MSport Carbon Black |
Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 14-November-2014 at 08:27
Which is tricky to tell as the E60/1 don't have engine temperature guages, only the most important gauge in the car but never mind.... ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Bob P wrote:Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 14-November-2014 at 10:09
For me, the most important guage is the fuel one !!!!
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Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 14-November-2014 at 12:34
That's not quite true Cambell,
 the coal/oil burners do get hot enough provided you drive them far enough which is why they are costly and pointless on short journeys.By the time the car has to tell you its too hot, the engine is now ruined and only fit for making tin cans out of. Which is why you want a temp gauge! The F10 has an oil temp guage which I haven't seen vertical on my Dads F10 3.0d unless I have driven it for 15 miles on the M'way.
Fuel guage, lol, you get a big warning light for that one when it wants filling up.....which at 22mpg is quite often for me at the moment! ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 14-November-2014 at 15:56
Coal burning cars?  maybe back in the 1880's ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 14-November-2014 at 17:05
 Bob, tell him !
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Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 14-November-2014 at 21:28
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So Who's got you liking DIEsels then Mr M5? ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: Bob P
Date Posted: 15-November-2014 at 05:47
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Common fault on E60/61 OIL burners is they do not heat up quick enough due to failed thermostats. Fairly easily rectified by replahcing them both. Lack of temp guage is a pain in the 4rse but good guide is how quickly you get warm air out of the heater. Another guide is fuel comsumption. I get about 34 average with a mixture of running. This drops to about the same as Andrews V8 when the thermostats have failed. If the thermostats are ok the engine heats up fairly quickly even on short runs meaning the cold start device switches off and the dreaded dpf gets hot. ------------- E61 530D MSport Carbon Black |
Posted By: big dovit
Date Posted: 15-November-2014 at 17:08
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Whit have the been telt get rid of the dug don't need estate then unless yer common to mine to clear the garage😆😆😆😆😆 ------------- |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 15-November-2014 at 18:31
Huh? Much too Scottie for me! :( Andrew? Translation please?? Thanks  ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 17-November-2014 at 13:06
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Nae chance Pitsy, you're not special enough, besides wouldn't want to go off topic.
Rather than get rid of said four legged friend, put the dog on the back seat with a blanket or sheet and get a saloon? I think you can get a BMW accessory for a cover over the back seats, it fits on the rear of the front seats and then forms like a trough in the back seat to protect your trim. Probably v expensive though.
------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 10:28
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Thanks for all the info love the look of a E39 but starting to go in the 525i E61 side of things I did go and look at a E39 525d at 1st looked ok but body was starting to go on every wing Then one came up for sale on the web,E39 525 M Sport black Touring looked very good in the pics So after 3 calls and emails asking all the right stuff and body work was ok, i got up at 6am to head down south a 600+mil round trip to see this http://s897.photobucket.com/user/johnadams/media/10625161_881233621901342_8369390428898413220_n_zps7179a15b.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s897.photobucket.com/user/johnadams/media/10425474_881233781901326_7574419054077332763_n_zps913ba626.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s897.photobucket.com/user/johnadams/media/1959709_881234441901260_3095025037143102982_n_zpsfa35efa9.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  http://s897.photobucket.com/user/johnadams/media/10477884_881235205234517_1712705539419369869_n_zpsfe677475.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  were 3 Tupperware boxes struck together what i think they where used for cooling system??..it was like a kid had made this up was almost ready to hit the t**t , asked him so many times to send more pics, anyway we now think it was to stop a smoking engine? i have emailed the pics to BMW Stirling to see what they think it is So still on the hunt lol ------------- M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: Andrew Rolland
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 12:40
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That's got walk/run away written all over it. I've never seen such a Heath Robinson arrangement. It appears to be conencted to the inlet manifold between the MAF and the throttle butterfly valve. It's on the vacuum side of the system....Um
I can't think what on earth that would be for. The fact that one of the boxes is broken would be letting air into the throttle butterfly valve after normal air has been metered would mean that the engine would not run right.
I would love to hear what the dealer says. ------------- Be exclusive and drive a Petrol 5 Series! Current '13 62 F10 535i MSport Auto Previous '04 04 E60 545i SE Auto '03 53 E60 545i SE Auto (Stolen) '98 S E39 523i SE Auto |
Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 13:07
Well i have the 9-3 and thats a saloon so on point getting other one when i have a 4door M3? If i was going to get new car be one for doing all the stuff i need it to do , like taking the dog , my bike kids stuff the tip runs, cleaning out ones garage lol ------------- M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 13:19
It was Alan in Stirling i was chatting to when i was picking up lights for the M3, i told him what i seen on Saturday (had the pics with me) the sales man  Adam!!! he told me that this was the 1st time he looked at the engine and that he was sorry?I told him that if he did not get away from me i was going to do something very bad and he was just ripping the pee out of me words where said and he wet away for 10mins By this time i left and with in 10mins he called to do some sort of deal lol, was thing of head back to show him what we do to sales man like that!!!!  ------------- M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: gary
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 17:42
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Holy 5h1t batman. This has obviously been mucked about with blue peter stylee. Making you come all the way down to Coventry knowing it was like that is out of order. My 4r5e he hadn't seen under the engine before. Shocking backstreet shenanigans if you ask me ------------- http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e30/sportevo.html" rel="nofollow - E30 M3 Sport Evo III |
Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 18:22
I have had a look Gary he has been posting for some years now sealing cars so he well knows about the engine Lucky he did not get you know what!!!  ------------- M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 18:42
Err, no actually you don't  ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 18:50
??? was this in the 5 forum? ------------- M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 19:05
No, it was here  ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 19:07
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lol But i do have a 4 door M3?? E36 M3 evo saloon ------------- M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 19:11
You make think you have, but actually it's an E36 4 door saloon with added M trim. ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 19:20
MMmmmmm yes you right its just a 316 with a body kit but dont tell anyone have had 3 e36 now318es, 328i, 3.2evo M, and a E46 4door with a kit on it ------------- M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 19:27
I don't need to .......... you have ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 26-November-2014 at 19:38
 Dam!! oh well found out..------------- M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 09:08
| Does it say M3 in the V5 ? |
Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 10:41
Cambell just had a wee look at the V5 and you know what its a M3!!!! All this your M is just a 318 with a body kid?? now i know how Gary feels ------------- M3 Evo 4 door |
Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 12:43
I knew it would mate so there's an end to any arguments.  Gary asks for it !!
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Posted By: Cambell
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 12:45
| Oh and By the way, I know mine is a 520d (sounds like a diesel) with a body kit !! lol Pauls mate actually asked him that when my car was parked next to his old M3 a while back. It made me smile !! lol |
Posted By: Bob P
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 14:27
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It does sound remarkably like mine when you start it from cold! ------------- E61 530D MSport Carbon Black |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 16:44
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Posted By: johne46
Date Posted: 27-November-2014 at 18:29
Oh No this has gone way off  Back to E39 Touring and i have seen other one and yes its 200mil away!!! This one has full services (BMW) Lovely looking 525 nice wheels too, but working on Saturday but not made my mind up what to do? If its still about next week i may just go and get it lol ------------- M3 Evo 4 door |