Well guys, I enjoyed my wee visit as did my big Brother Vic.

I am absolutely gutted about not getting my car on the rollers but as a few of you know, my exhaust seems to have given up the ghost so I recon that if I'd put it on, the exhaust would have probably gone bang (completely) and I wouldn't get a true reading anyway.

A huge thanks to all who organised this event, I know that it was done partially on my request (along with others) like I said, gutted I didn't get on the rollers.

Great pics

Dunc your car looks mean on the rollers,colour coded cables

Shame about the read outs,but hey ho it was a good day out?

Fluffs car just fits lol

We had a great day today lots of banter and cold feet!!  

Well done to Duncan &  Ono for getting this off the ground. Thanks to Hypertech for keeping us supplied with tea/coffee & biscuits.

Some we videos from me .....

http://s178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/issyco/?action=view&current=RRday15thmarch09009.flv - Stevie  

http://s178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/issyco/?action=view&current=RRday15thmarch09013.flv - Stevie2

http://s178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/issyco/?action=view&current=RRday15thmarch09018.flv - Cliff  

http://s178.photobucket.com/albums/w253/issyco/?action=view&current=RRday15thmarch09021.flv - Cliff2

Just wanted to say thanks to Ono and Duncan for doing the organising.  And thanks to Neil for the photos.  I enjoyed meeting a few new faces, Jim and Alistair.

I was a bit disappointed with my result 286 bhp which I was told was due to the autobox wanting to change.  But I reckon it was worth doing for the experience and just to say I've done it. 

I'm really not sure how it could have been run any other way.  The car needs to be told to stay in gear, mibbie plugging in a laptop to override the ECU???

My dad really enjoyed it esp seeing a number of M3 and M5 models in the flesh.  Thanks to Stevie and Jim for letting me and the old boy look over a couple of nice Ms! Sorry to hear about your tale of woe Stevie, hope you get it sorted.

Andrew

PS Guys, I would strongly recommend that you check your rear tyre pressures as the wee lad was supposedly putting them up to 45 psi and then re-setting them back to normal, but mine weren't even anywhere near right when I checked them before going home!  And the wee lad lost one of my dust caps and tried to tell me there wasn't even one on that side!

stevie53 wrote: enjoyed some of my day, Had a laugh catching up with you all pity I can't say the same about the later part of the day. the rollers issue was exactly what I expected, what I didn't expect was for my gearlinkage to collapse and leave me stuck in 4th gear for the majority of the trip home waiting for the ambulance now to take it back to the A&E

Gutted to have missed the day, and sorry to hear of your breakdown.  Be sure to say hi to my motor should you be down B4BMW anytime soon Stevie!

I'm starting to forget that I actually own a car having seen so little of it this year for one reason or another!

  Yeah im not bothered one bit to all the figures of the M's are roughlly or dead on 50 brake down so figure that out ?, But to be excactlly twenty behind barry tells you both our cars are running perfect in my mind. i put money on it that these cars would make the power on another set of rollers.

A big thanks to izzy for driving me through and putting up with me and another thanks to mark for the advice on getting the car to rev round to the limit,    

Just another thought about the figures for my car.

Book figures for mine are 333 bhp and 450 Nm of torque.

According to the print out I got, my bhp was 286 and the torque was just shy of 450 which I took as being o.k. as that was what the book figure was.  On a closer look at the graph my car according to the rollers produced 450 lbft torque which is not the same as 450 Nm of torque.  450 lbft torque = 610Nm!!!!

If I had 610 Nm of torque going thru my gearbox I would be a bit worried as it has a torque design limit of 600 Nm.

So it would appear the the rollers under estimated bhp by about 50 bhp (286 + 50 = 336bhp which would be over the book values for me, just) but the torque was over estimated by about 1/3 which is quite something.

Can the rest of you guys look at your torque figures and let me know your thoughts.

Andrew

It was a good day, good seeing new faces, and some nice cars turned up.

I was pleased with my results:-  173.8, book on her is 170. So i was well chuffed.

But i wasn't so chuffed with the battery in my camera, i was hoping to get a lot more video. An in car charger and a second battery ordered from amazon today.

I'm going to try and get some blank CD's and copy every thing i took. I'm planning on brining them to Davey's if anyone wants one.

fluffnik wrote: The lower end of the torqueue curve makes no sense though... >320ftlb @ ~1200rpm

Yeah there is something very wrong with the torque results from this Rolling Road.  I think his torque calibration must be way out as my car was putting out more torque than the gearbox can handle safely!

Thanks to Duncan and everyone who organised the day.

Was good to get my car on the rollers and get a base figure to work on.  The figure I got was slightly disappointing until you look at the other figures produced.

Anyone will tell you that most M3 Evo's will not produce the advertised 321 PS (316bhp) so if you take the 50bhp "missing" from the M3 GT, E46 M3 and CSL, I should be looking at an actual 321bhp which is a fantsatic output for a midly tuned Evo (Simota CAI, superchip). I will be putting it on another dyno (probably Star) to find out. 

Here's my graph

broos3 wrote: As I said Andrew realy like the 545i, its a real sleeper and in great condition!! Hope you get the wee bits of tyre of the rear 1/4 panels.

Cheers Craig.  Have you got any more piccies of the Cosworth?  Ditch the BMW and get the Cozzie going.

What's more annoying is that I had made a right hash of removing the sealant I had put on the rear wings etc the day before, now that the car is a bit dirty you can see where I hadn't buffed off the sealant.  It sets rock hard and is a real pain to shift.

That reminds me I need to get more BMW dust caps as one went missing after my tyre pressures "were adjusted" by the RR staff.

Andrew

Oh yeah she looks the part, RS cossie or XR4x4, i wanted one of those. But if i could have any Ford right now, i'd Take the Capri any day. My childhood dream car. 2.8 injection in black oh yes.

Nice Cozzie

I'd have a V6 2.3 Ghia Cortina.

Wonder what it would produce on a rolling road.  120 bhp mibbie?  At least it would have worked properly and not cut out due to fancy electronics in the engine.

broos3 wrote: There are some pictures of the Sierra for you Andrew and others who are interested. I might get some better pics of it put together later and put a proper post up. The pics are abit old and the sh*te strut brace has been removed and the car is back to completly original. The car its just a summer car and hardly gets used. Sits in the garage all the time and gets cleaned more than it gets driven as you can see haha. Craig

Good to see another sierra owner (i have an original 1983 XR4i), they're getting thin on the ground these days 

broos3 wrote: I realy like the XR4i's, red with the grey bumpers looked great. Get some pics up of the old girl.

My dad has owned it for 20 years (so far!) of its 26 year life, 86,000 miles from new and all original including paint and bodywork (apart from the cosworth steering wheel which i bought brand new as a birthday present but the original two-spoke wheel with twin-button horn push is in storage)

broos3 wrote: I realy like the XR4i's, red with the grey bumpers looked great. Get some pics up of the old girl.

that brings back some happy memories, i used to have one o them

dear knows where it is now though, them pics are about 20 years old

jimmy136 wrote: dear knows where it is now though, them pics are about 20 years old

looks like it was scrapped or SORNed in 1997

http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/application?origin=vnav_bar.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.refresh&pageid=Vehicle+Enquiry - http://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/application?or igin=vnav_bar.jsp&event=bea.portal.framework.internal.re fresh&pageid=Vehicle+Enquiry

broos3 wrote: My cosworth has just ticked over 51k and been garaged most of its life apart from the first 2/3 years.

it's a beautiful beast Craig, cossies will always have a special place in my affections, if i could afford a really pristine unmodified 3-door or RS500 i'd buy it in a heartbeat

broos3 wrote: Was your dad the original owner? Good idea fitting the cosworth wheel in my opinion its a realy nice wheel to drive with.

No, he bought it in 1989 when it was six years old.  A mate of his at the time had a white one and when he had a drive he was smitten and thus started the hunt for one.  It was a daily driver up until he stored it in 1993 so I could learn to drive (never afford the insurance on it at the time and he was niggly about an inexperienced 17-year old behind the wheel, no idea why )  Since then it comes out of the garage during the summer months maybe once every few years?  It doesn't get used like it probably should but he loves the car so much I don't think he'll never sell it, we've got filing cabinets full of period promotional material, magazine reviews, XR4i model cars, the garage is stacked with spare parts "just in case", it's mental!  Got to have a hobby I suppose.... I keep on at him about taking it to car shows but that's not his thing, he likes going to shows to see other cars but not interested in showing it, shame really

My traction control (DSC/DTC ABC DEF etc etc) was well and trully off on the RR and the car performed well untill the input revs got to much for the gearbox and it changed up, spoiling the power run.

My car was taken to the red line about a split second before the gearbox decided to change up, boo.  Was good fun though.

Andrew