I had 4 new Dunlop Sport 2000 fitted 2 1/2 weeks ago. I have done over 1000mls on them now but I am still finding the grip poor to be polite.

Any power on comming out of any corner and the TC is going mad. I thought at first they just needed to bed in and maybe they still do but how long should it take. The car is handling like a slippery wheesel..

Its more fun but starting to annoy me.

Any Ideas.

Mick

TBH, I have never heard a good thing from anyone who ownes Dunlops...

My dad said he put them on both of his Audi's once and was totally dissapointed with them! They wear quickly and the let go in the slightest bit of wet...

My brother in law used to them on his Mazda until he got fed up of replacing them within a year! He used to say that you would get more grip from slick tyres than Dunlop all year tyres...

BB

It had Dunlops on it when I bought it and did nearly 30Kmls on them and they had lots of grip. Thats why I went for Dunlop again......

Mick

Hmmm...not sure...

But 1000miles sounds an awful lot for the tyres to have not bedded in...

I decided to go for Toyo's on my 525I and they were a lightly light in the grip department for the first 2 days or so after I bought them. Then they started gripping like mad and have not let go since...which annoys me because I like making screetching noises when I corner quickly ...

Did you have your camber and alignment checked when you had the tyres put on?

BB

BeemaBoy wrote: Hmmm...not sure... But 1000miles sounds an awful lot for the tyres to have not bedded in... I decided to go for Toyo's on my 525I and they were a lightly light in the grip department for the first 2 days or so after I bought them. Then they started gripping like mad and have not let go since...which annoys me because I like making screetching noises when I corner quickly ... Did you have your camber and alignment checked when you had the tyres put on? BB

No nothing checked just got them fitted and drove off.

Mick

Def worth the squid to get everything checked...

When I first bought my 5, the car used to handle strangly through the corners...almost like it was following a set of rails or something. The steering wheel would also not centre after coming out of a corner...it would stay in the direction that I had turned the car and continue driving in that direction...gave me quite a shock the first time as I had never felt this before in a car...usually when I accelerated out of a corner in other peoples cars, the steering wheel would pull itself back to centre...

Once I had the alignment and camber checked, they discovered that it was just slightly out... Once having it rectified, the car handled beautifully through corners with no problems at all...

I now pay the 12pounds odd and get the alignment checked every 6000 miles...with a good "Hunter" alignment machine...

BB

Edit: When was the last time you had it checked?

About 20K miles ago  

Ill get it done..... This car has only covered 38Kmls in 5 years. (26kmls in the last 12 months.)

Mick

Mick525i wrote: About 20K miles ago   Ill get it done..... This car has only covered 38Kmls in 5 years. (26kmls in the last 12 months.) Mick

Yikes... I used to get mine done twice a year. Irish roads mean wheels get knocked off alingnment easily.

Kin,

its just not right. The car was stuck to the road on the old tyres in the dry. They were well bald before I replaced them but they were still gripped well. I dont umderstand why the new ones are so bad.

This is a 525 auto so I dont rally it but its still very noticable.

Mick

Kin Mak wrote: Mick525i wrote: About 20K miles ago   Ill get it done..... This car has only covered 38Kmls in 5 years. (26kmls in the last 12 months.) Mick Yikes... I used to get mine done twice a year. Irish roads mean wheels get knocked off alingnment easily.

OK. Ill get it done on Friday.

Mick

Kin Mak wrote: ...but I don't think any normal road driving will produce this effect.

Hmmm...strange words from an M5 owner...... whats normal road driving?

BB

BeemaBoy wrote: Kin Mak wrote: ...but I don't think any normal road driving will produce this effect. Hmmm...strange words from an M5 owner...... whats normal road driving? BB

Big holes in the grass in Mondello

M

I know it might be painful but if it is the tyres I would just replace them. Ask the place you got it off if they will take the tyres back for some money and they can sell it off as nearly new.

You can imagine the ammount of tyres I went through the 2.5 years of ownership of the M5, the difference between good and very good is vast. I can only imagine the difference between bad and very good.

Feck sake €720 for 4 tyres (not M5 money but still)....... ill put up with them.... I am going to get the setup checked tomorrow and if thats no good then back to the tyre fitters for a scrap. I check the pressures every week with a digital tyre guage. I have tried them hard and softish...

Maybe Im not driving it hard enough to scrub them in..... must try harder.....

Ill let you know tomorrow.

Mick

You paid €740 for all 4 of your tyres and you got crappy dunlop ones? Yikes you got screwed a bit there. Were the SP 9000 or Eagle F1s a lot more expensive?

As for tyre pressure guages, most will be accurate enough. Seriously, 1psi either way is not going to make your car madly unstable. Also I heard the silder guages are the most inaccurate of them all. Forgot where I read that.

235/45/ZR17 Front and 255/40/ZR17 rear. Thats as cheap I could get them with out buying of tinterweb.. (that will never catch on....)

Mick

Kin Mak wrote: Shopping cart product price for one Quantity Subtotal http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/reifendirekt.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=87497722.14.28812&kplz=&Cookie=&language=&typ=D39112&dsco=24" target=_blank onmouseover="window.status='Details'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true; - Goodyear EAGLE F1 GS-D3 235/45 ZR17 94Y BSW, VSB EUR 123,50 2 EUR 247,00 http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/reifendirekt.pl?details=Ordern&cart_id=87497722.14.28812&kplz=&Cookie=&language=&typ=D39120&dsco=24" target=_blank onmouseover="window.status='Details'; return true;" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true; - Goodyear EAGLE F1 GS-D3 255/40 R17 94Y BSW, VSB runout EUR 200,80 2 EUR 401,60 Total amount 4 EUR 648,60 This is from Eiretyres...   p.s that includes VAT & Shipping.

I did look at this but I had wire on one of the back tyres and had a trip to Derry to do. Eiretyres could take 5 days and then fitting was going to be €35 per wheel .....

Mick

€35 per wheel? WTF! What are they using their dicks to mount the wheel? I don't pay more than €10 per wheel and that of course includes balancing.

It does suck when you are in a hurry though. I would have thought Dave McCann would match or come very close to eiretyres? Dave has said just try him and he will see what he can do.

Who is Dave Mc Cann?

Mick

The name of the tyre place and the owners name as well. He has a nice laser alingnment system as well.

Dave McCann
Unit 12 Coolmine Bus. Park,
Blanchardstown,
Dublin 15.
087 - 2500365 or 01 - 8202221

Thanks for that.

Mick

Mick525iEiretyres could take 5 days and then fitting was going to be €35 per wheel .....[/QUOTE wrote: As per Kin's comments, I've had a few tyres from Eiretyres this year for the various

As per Kin's comments, I've had a few tyres from Eiretyres this year for the various cars on the fleet and my local fitter registered with them has charged a tenner a wheel for fitting, balancing and disposing of the old ones.

Southside Dublin overcharging B4st4rds....

Its booked in on Monday to have the alignment checked. Get the oil changed too. (thats one thing I do regularly every 8K)

Mick

Fey! wrote: I got 4 Falkens (2x 235/35/17 & 2x 265/30/17) from my local fitter for less than you paid your guy for the Dunlops, and that included getting the alignment done.

For an E39 ? Are you sure it wasn't 235/45/17's & 265/40/17's that you got ?

Where did you get them fitted for that ? I've heard Clonboo Tyres are supposed to be pretty reasonable ? Any recommendations in Galway on who will fit/balance tyres bought elsewhere ?

I'll double check the sizes later; bretty sure it's 35/30 on mine.

We use Ballybrit Exhaust and Tyres in Oldenway, Ballybrit (beside Windsor) for all things wheel related.  I know that Digweed uses them, too.

Well I just spoke to my man who has done the 4 wheel aligment and he said the front was miles off. The back was fine. Ill find out exactly what miles of means when I pick it up later.

I have to drive to Derry tomorrow morning so Ill know by lunchtime if its done the job or not.

Thanks for your input guys.

Mick

Well 400 miles today. all seems fine. I did'nt have much chance for any spirited driving though... even in the north.....bit like the Isle of man only they will lock up if they catch you...

Mick

Mick525i wrote: Well 400 miles today. all seems fine. I did'nt have much chance for any spirited driving though... even in the north.....bit like the Isle of man only they will lock up if they catch you... Mick

You will be surprised at what a difference to the steering and handling of a car correct wheel alignemnt makes!

It was like night and day when I had it corrected on my 5.

BB

He told me that my car was turning in too early... I dont really understand all the other bits he said. but so far all seems well.

Must go for a blast later..

Mick

Carpetbagger wrote:  hi people   if your talking tyres  maybe you can help me , my E34 525 sport has 17" alloys 235x45 profile tyres Nantangs , (original wheels15"  225x60) they are prone to tramlining  can i fit 225x50 profile17" tyres to avoid tramlining and or use a better brand Regards Alan

That would be Nankangs you have on your car - generally deemed to be total muck. I would stick to the 235/45 tyres and go for something like the excellent Falken 512 or 452's if you want to keep the costs down or elso go all out with a set of the Goodyear Eagle F1's (not a whole lot more expensive mind you).....