waxing question
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Printed Date: 10-May-2024 at 07:36
Topic: waxing question
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Subject: waxing question
Date Posted: 08-August-2007 at 19:37
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i am new to this area of car care as i havn't really been bothered to wax my other cars though i thought that i'd try and keep this one looking good. i bought the m3, though after 11 years and 100k miles, the paint work was a little dull. i first tried waxing it with autoglym ultra deep shine but i ended up getting the white wax residue all over the place. i then tried t cut colour fast in purple. i am happy with the way that this covers up the scratches in the paint but i end up with a weird mottled effect as can be seen below.
can anyone tell me where im going wrong? ive also seen 240v electric car polishers in halfords for £30- would this be of any use? any info appreciated, thanks. ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
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Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 08-August-2007 at 20:11
thepits will be along shortly to answer this for you mate, he's the expert 
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Posted By: Stone-IslandV8
Date Posted: 08-August-2007 at 20:47
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I've had that effect before on my 318....too much polish n wax I was told.
If I get the hazy result now I give the car 3 washes straight after each other then went over it with a clay bar followed by Autoglym super resin polish then Zymol wax...results: M3 
the 318; 
535 bonnet just waxed;  ------------- Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 08-August-2007 at 21:31
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ok, it seems i may have put too much wax on. i'll wax off then wax on again with less product and see how i go. is it just me or is it alot of hard work just for it to rain and spoil the effect?
thanks ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 08-August-2007 at 21:33
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Yes ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Rossi wrote:
Posted By: fozzymandeus
Date Posted: 09-August-2007 at 05:50
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Last time I polished and waxed the E36 it came up like that, I think for two reasons - one: too much wax and two: bodywork too warm. I rubbed down gently (for a little while, light pressure) with a clean microfibre cloth and the hazing disappeared.
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Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 09-August-2007 at 16:18
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the heat could be the problem - i only ever clean the car when the sun is out. the paint gets quite hot. ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: Big Stuff
Date Posted: 09-August-2007 at 17:30
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Yip thats the effect of applying wax to hot panels ------------- 2002 330ci SE - Factory Straight - Now gone cause am skint and in a wee diesel - Aw naw - boo hoo |
Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 10-August-2007 at 20:35
You should never wash or wax the car when hot as it can leave difficult to remove residue and causes more problems than you started with, isn't that right Mr 'detailer' pits? *He's the detailer, twisted detailer* Mike ------------- 
Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension. E28 525e auto-Standard |
Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 10-August-2007 at 21:40
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spot on Mike, on both counts I mostly wash the car when it's raining (easy pre-soak, wash and final rinsing) Best to wash a car in the shade, if doing it in sunny weather which, avoids water spots also.
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Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 10-August-2007 at 23:54
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Oh yes, never try to clean/wax car in the sunshine ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: flyingalexf68
Date Posted: 11-August-2007 at 17:40
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Don't use that T-Cut Colour Wax stuff. Not good on premium cars. I find the
Meguiars 3 Step system the best. Halfords sell it. I also clayed my car a few months back and it made a big difference. Again Meguiars do a good clay bar kit. Wash the car. Don't dry it just spray some lube and clay the whole car. Wash again. Then dry with a shammy (spelling) and follow the 3 steps. If you do it in the shade it's nowhere near as hard to apply and buff off the cleaner, polish and wax. I find Meguiars applicator pads are great and Halfords do good microfibre cloths for buffing. Buy three packs of each. Just wash them in the washing machine and they're ready to use again. Also seing as you're a beginner I'd recommend the AutoGlym alloy wheel cleaning brush, Turtle Wax alloy wheel cleaner spray and the AutoGlym synthetic shammy (again). ------------- 1995 e36 3.0 M3 Coupe, Daytona Violet, AP Racing BBK, CCFL Angel Eyes, M3 Spoiler, M-Tec 3 Steering Wheel. 2000 530d Steptronic, Poverty Spec, 18" Alloys. |
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 11-August-2007 at 18:11
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ive found the t cut colour fast is good at hiding some of the minior swirl marks in the paint. what is the clay bar about? ------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: flyingalexf68
Date Posted: 11-August-2007 at 18:49
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All the T Cut colour wax does is fill in the scratch with goop which doesn't
last. The Meguiars step 1 paint cleaner will remove a lot of these swirl marks and small scratches. The clay bar is a sticky plastecine type stuff. Basically you rub it back and forward across the paint and the embedded dirt particles, grime and tar etc. will stick to the clay. You keep folding the clay in your hand to expose a clean side. You MUST use plenty of lubricant or you could scratch the paint. You don't do it often, maybe once a year. And you can do the glass too. The difference when you run your fingertips over the paint after claying is amazing. It's a good idea to do the top of the car first and work down as the bottom of the doors and around the arches are usually filthy. @Stone Island: Those e36's look amazing. ------------- 1995 e36 3.0 M3 Coupe, Daytona Violet, AP Racing BBK, CCFL Angel Eyes, M3 Spoiler, M-Tec 3 Steering Wheel. 2000 530d Steptronic, Poverty Spec, 18" Alloys. |
Posted By: Stone-IslandV8
Date Posted: 11-August-2007 at 19:44
Ta....I hate posting those cos I realise how much I miss the E36 over the E46!!!! Agree with the above, meguiars clay bar detailer maeks a huge difference. Gotta admit that after Zymol waxing and buffing the car I then go round again putting a light spray of water on the car and buffing again....seals the wax or something but it does come up even better. HOWEVER....the M3 above was photo'd just before going to a CC day at Gaydon and had taken the WHOLE Saturday to get looking like that. ------------- Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 11-August-2007 at 20:22
Gay bar? why you better ask pitsy on that one -------------
Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension. E28 525e auto-Standard |
Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 11-August-2007 at 22:07
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TRACKPIG, have a look http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4536 - here This will give you a techie explanation of the swirls and probably empty your wallet on combating them... ------------- |
Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 13-August-2007 at 20:57
Flippin 'eck! sounds like a french polishing course! Mike -------------
Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension. E28 525e auto-Standard |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 13-August-2007 at 21:24
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Isn't that a pub/club where everyone gets very happy/merry after a few drinks? ------------- Cats know your every thought. But don't care. |
Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 14-August-2007 at 22:05
Spot on! I'm always feeling a little gay myself even without a pub in sight! Mike -------------
Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension. E28 525e auto-Standard |
Posted By: fozzymandeus
Date Posted: 15-August-2007 at 10:38
What's his name? ------------- Beating around the bush. |
Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 15-August-2007 at 19:55
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See below..... -------------
Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension. E28 525e auto-Standard |
Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 15-August-2007 at 19:56
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Anyway, back on topic... how's the waxing coming along? -------------
Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension. E28 525e auto-Standard |
Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 15-August-2007 at 20:14
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padlock coming shortly.. too much detail there mate, even if it's in the detailing section ------------- |
Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 15-August-2007 at 20:48
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Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension. E28 525e auto-Standard |
Posted By: TRACKPIG
Date Posted: 15-August-2007 at 22:21
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that is a very indepth insight into the world of polishing. the products sound expensive aswell. lets say i ditch the t cut stuff and go back to the auto glym ultra deep shine. what other products are recommended as a basic must have considering the paint is quite dull with lots of swerl marks? would the 240v electric polish machine be a worth while purchase. i also had a quote for a full machine polish from a local place for £80. i was thinking if i had the paint buffed up to a good standard then it would be easier for myself to keep it looking good
------------- REMEMBER- POWER IS NOTHING WITHOUT KELLY REMOULDS E30 325 Sport - Gone but not forgotten E36 M3 evo Suzuki GSXR 750 Track Piece |
Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 16-August-2007 at 20:29
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Check this polishing job out on the 5 forum. I know it's a new car but a bit of elbow grease and you'll get good results too. http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=16344 - http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=16344 I have heard a lot about the 3 step from megs and I'm thinking about getting it myself. Mike -------------
Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension. E28 525e auto-Standard |
Posted By: thepits
Date Posted: 16-August-2007 at 21:44
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wake me up when it's over....
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Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 17-August-2007 at 18:33
On the contrary Mr pits, I thought with that shiny bonce, you were well into polishing? Mike -------------
Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension. E28 525e auto-Standard |
Posted By: Rossi
Date Posted: 18-August-2007 at 19:07
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yes it'll be the autosol for his hair.. ------------- |