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Topic: Name That Price!
Posted By: ivanovoitch
Subject: Name That Price!
Date Posted: 04-October-2006 at 22:01
A lot of us are finding that we didn't or wont get near as much as we thought we'd get for our used metal.

Conversly, as we will all go on to buy again (mostly secondhand I assume) what percentage less should we expect to pay?

For example...I've been watching this E220 for a bit. It's on carzone about eight weeks. Advertised at €4995.00. Was thinking of offering €3000 and going to €3500 after a bit of haggling. (It's sold now)
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=497654 -
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car& carID=497654

Do those that have recently sold think they would have accepted a 25% drop in the asking price?



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Posted By: ballina123
Date Posted: 05-October-2006 at 00:16

Its a difficult one, 25% is a large drop to accept, €500 off a €2000 car doesn't seem bad but €5000 off a €20000 is a lot. In reality people do end up dropping their price this much though.

Take my Z3 I originally asked €25995 after seeing dealer cars at €29995 I ended up selling for 22k. But I reduced the price myself and got near the asking. If someone had offered 22k when I still had it up for 26k I probably wouldn't have taken it, but I revised my expectations as time passed.

If you're after a bargain you need to keep an eye on how long a car has been for sale and if its been dropping in price. Either that or go in with a cheeky offer, be prepared for a refusal but leave your number and tell them the offer is open for a few weeks.

 



Posted By: flyingalexf68
Date Posted: 05-October-2006 at 01:19
@ B123. Did you buy an Elise?

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1995 e36 3.0 M3 Coupe, Daytona Violet, AP Racing BBK, CCFL Angel Eyes, M3 Spoiler, M-Tec 3 Steering Wheel.   
2000 530d Steptronic, Poverty Spec, 18" Alloys.


Posted By: ballina123
Date Posted: 05-October-2006 at 10:03

Originally posted by flyingalexf68 flyingalexf68 wrote:

@ B123. Did you buy an Elise?

Yes



Posted By: Dergside
Date Posted: 05-October-2006 at 10:44

What tends to happen is that sellers watch what prices others are asking and pitch their car price based on that.  As time passes and the phone doesn't ring they adjust their price downwards a step at a time until they start to get a response.  Unless someone has left their car at the original (over)price for months and never reduced it, I'd say that an offer of anything lower than €500 off the asking price would be politely declined.

Usually buyers have a price point they will pay and will wait until a car approaches that point before they make an enquiry.

As regards the Mercedes, the fact that the mileage is less than starship level, the spec is good, low no. of owners and that it has a full MBSH (obviously subject to confirmation) would have it stand out from the rest of the cars available and therefore warrant a higher price than usual for such a car and probably would mean that the seller would stick closer to their asking price.



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Posted By: Jack735
Date Posted: 05-October-2006 at 13:04

There's a castle east of Edinburgh went on sale earlier this year at £15,000,000.  The price dropped at the start of the summer to £10,000,000 and it now sits at 'just' £5,000,000.

Some people are more realistic than others when it comes to putting a price on something that’s not new.  Others will set a low price to get rid or get a quick sale.

I think the bottom line is take each case individually, and on its own merits, and see how it compares with similar items.



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Posted By: ivanovoitch
Date Posted: 05-October-2006 at 19:11
So what would the thoughts on this E320 be? On carzone 12 weeks. Price has remained static. No tax. Part Service History. Thirsty.

I'd want it for €2250.00
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=479354 - E320

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Posted By: BM Fan
Date Posted: 05-October-2006 at 19:25
I am not sure but if you look at dealer, particularly if they are large they must be registered for VAT. The actual dealer net price would be then less the 21%. 

Private sellers have no VAT liability.  I think you'll find that the trade in value reflects the VAT cost to Dealers and private sellers will generally end up moving the car somewhere above the pre VAT price / trade in price.

My 2c anyway - BTW, I still haven't managed to make my mind up about  changing the 520 and have lost heart at this stage looking and dreaming.....




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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!)
Previous Models
2001 E39 520i Auto
1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual
1996 E36 328i Coupe
1997 E36 318i Conv
1992 E36 316i Sln



Posted By: flyingalexf68
Date Posted: 05-October-2006 at 19:28
Well at €3500 its slightly cheaper than http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=489764 - this convertible E320. I know these were good cars but bloody hell thats way too much for a '93.

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1995 e36 3.0 M3 Coupe, Daytona Violet, AP Racing BBK, CCFL Angel Eyes, M3 Spoiler, M-Tec 3 Steering Wheel.   
2000 530d Steptronic, Poverty Spec, 18" Alloys.


Posted By: ivanovoitch
Date Posted: 05-October-2006 at 20:37
Originally posted by flyingalexf68 flyingalexf68 wrote:

bloody hell thats way too much for a '93.


Bout eight grand tops!


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Posted By: nn_dd
Date Posted: 10-October-2006 at 17:50

With only 96K on it, I'd make sure that instrument cluster hasn't been replaced at some stage. Heard somewhere they were prone to going bust, just like on the '94 on C class models. - Was about to buy a nice one recently when I noticed a crack around one of the screws on the cluster.

Otherwise lovely car !



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