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Topic: E30 M3 pinking...
Posted By: Jonners
Subject: E30 M3 pinking...
Date Posted: 08-September-2006 at 13:46
After the starter motor saga (see separate thread) the car's back on the road and it passed its MOT yesterday

Yippee - not having driven it for a while and not having much time I took it for a gentle trundle around Richmond Park with the sun roof open

Negotiated a speed bump in the usual way and not having driven the car for a while forget how much you need to stir the gear lever on these cars .....damn thing starts pinking

Now it seemed to stop very quickly but I thought anti knock sensors stopped detonantion long before it is audible

Is there an anti knock sensor connection I might have disturbed whilst changing the starter??

It's an Evo Sport so always run on ordinary unleaded - never had pinking before but then agai I've hardly ever had the sunroof open....

Any ideas anyone??

Cheers



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Posted By: M3Nally
Date Posted: 08-September-2006 at 13:50
I don't think they have knock sensors, too old!

Could be a loose nut on the exhaust manifold.



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E30 M3 Macao blue metallic Evolution 2
E39 530d Sport Auto, Aegean blue Edition, Sat Nav, TV, comms pack etc.
E39 540i Auto, Sat Nav, TV, leather, luxo barge


Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 08-September-2006 at 14:26
Anti-Knock ! blimey if anybody could get that to work on the S14 engine,
give them a medal.

These cars never had anti-knock, wouldn't work anyway.

Suggest you have bad fuel. Try using super. My engine for eg, runs so much
better on ESSO super than anything else.
I too had a pinking issue once with Optimax!


Posted By: Jonners
Date Posted: 08-September-2006 at 15:02
blimey - never ocurred to me that it didn't have anti knock...

...even tho designed in early 80's it's like the space shuttle compared with what i'm used to....

Not sure about the exhaust manifold - definitely pinking

Could be fuel - it's been standing for quite a while


Posted By: maxfield
Date Posted: 08-September-2006 at 16:16
My dad had a little pinking but this was the day after filling up with diesel. Use the best  petrol you can find

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Posted By: Fushion Julz
Date Posted: 08-September-2006 at 17:12
Originally posted by Jonners Jonners wrote:

blimey - never ocurred to me that it didn't have anti knock...

...even tho designed in early 80's it's like the space shuttle compared with what i'm used to....

Not sure about the exhaust manifold - definitely pinking

Could be fuel - it's been standing for quite a while


Space shuttle is an 80s design, too....


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1987 E30 M3
1996 E36 328i SE 4dr (Manual)
1992 E34 525iX Touring...SOLD


Posted By: Dannyboy
Date Posted: 08-September-2006 at 19:05
space shuttle was designed in the 70's

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1992 clio 1.8 16V Good
1998 Subaru Impreza Turbo Terzo Great
1987 M3 Diamond Black Awesome (Now awesomer with Billys & Eibach)


Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 08-September-2006 at 20:20
Originally posted by 215DMX 215DMX wrote:

Anti-Knock ! blimey if anybody could get that to work on the S14 engine,
give them a medal.

These cars never had anti-knock, wouldn't work anyway.

Suggest you have bad fuel. Try using super. My engine for eg, runs so much
better on ESSO super than anything else.
I too had a pinking issue once with Optimax!


I had pinking issues with Optimax as well. And even the V-Power "FERRARI" fuel is pinking alittle bit. Car runs fine on TOTAL's excellium.....
How "old" is the petrol in your tank? You mentioned not having used the car for some time.

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Posted By: SHEPSM3
Date Posted: 09-September-2006 at 15:26

Hate to say it but old Montego and Meastros had knock sensors back in 1983/4! The ECU's would constantly run as much ignition as possible untill it detected pinking, then back it back for a few revolutions, then creep back up again.

They were all full of nastyness!

EDIT: Jonners, maybe you should have crushed the banger!  As others have said, I'd try different fuel first, but run it out of the old fuel before you do and change the fuel filter aswell.



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Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 10-September-2006 at 19:17
Originally posted by SHEPSM3 SHEPSM3 wrote:

Hate to say it but old Montego and Meastros had knock sensors back in 1983/4! 



Go and buy one if you are loving them so much.
But they didn't come with an anti cry sensor   

The M3 therefore comes with a ear to ear grin sensor

...and somebody who could manage in 1986 to squeeze almost 85bhp/liter out of a (reliable!!) production engine doens't need a knock sensor, don't you think??


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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....


Posted By: SHEPSM3
Date Posted: 10-September-2006 at 20:12
Originally posted by UweM3 UweM3 wrote:

Originally posted by SHEPSM3 SHEPSM3 wrote:

Hate to say it but old Montego and Meastros had knock sensors back in 1983/4! 



Go and buy one if you are loving them so much.
But they didn't come with an anti cry sensor   

The M3 therefore comes with a ear to ear grin sensor

...and somebody who could manage in 1986 to squeeze almost 85bhp/liter out of a (reliable!!) production engine doens't need a knock sensor, don't you think??

 Not loving the Maestro/Montego but loathing them, I wouldn't have one of those if it was given to me (Maestro MG Turbo with zero miles perhaps, but even then it would be rotten out ). They were truely full of NASTYNESS!



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Posted By: Jonners
Date Posted: 11-September-2006 at 10:08
Filled up this weekend with Optimax - sorry! V-Power

No pinking at all - had a great time

Have never used anything other than ordinary 95 before but perhaps it was the old fuel in the tank - but then again that had only been in there for about 3 months

Will try 95 again and see what happens



Posted By: SHEPSM3
Date Posted: 11-September-2006 at 11:36
Thats great news! Cheap repair!

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