Hi all,

I've checked this doesn't clash with any M3 events but if this isn't in the right place, mods please move/delete as appropriate.

This will be a rolling road day looking at the differences between all the E30 M3s and 320is that share the lovely S14

The day will be held at Northampton Motorsport http://83.138.170.26/northamptonmotorsport/ - http://83.138.170.26/northamptonmotorsport/  on the 20th May, starting at 9.00am and costs £30 each. Max of 35 cars with just the 1 power run each which measures power (both wheels and fly) and torque with a graph printout. For the mag feature we'll focus on about 15 cars (most likely ranging from standard to mild and wild mods).

Those who would like to attend, could you post here (or PM if you'd rather) with name, car, engine derivative, mods (if any), mileage and just to be really anal - type of fuel used. Oh and if you could post what kind of power and torque you're expecting, that would be cool.

Any questions, please feel free to ask away as I'm sure I've missed something

1. Team TBMW and The Ewok - non-cat 200bhp model, Supersprint Race system, BTB prototype DTM manifold, DTM-style carbon airbox, Catcams 283/283 cams, Alpha N, 178,000 Kms, Optimax. Anticipated results - 240bhp, 185lbf.ft torque.

2. Kevin McNally M3 Evo2, standard, 108,000 kms, Optimax. Anticipate/ hope for 220 bhp and 180 lb/ft torque.

3. Steve Singleton, Sport Evo with Motec EMS and Milltek exhaust. Anticipate 190BHP@ Wheels (240@fly) 180 bl/ft torque.

4. Simon & Tony Oke - 1988 E30 320is, 64000kms, standard apart from SuperSprint exhaust, runs on Optimax, not sure on outputs but would hope for 180ish at the flywheel (150ish at the wheels).

5. Simon 1990 M3 215bhp, 175000km, Supersprint race exhaust, rest standard, would like to see 215bhp! Oh, run on normal Shell unleaded as optimax is hard to find around here!

6. Julz Angell...1987 M3 153,000Km, 195bhp CAT all standard on regular BP unleaded fuel. Anticipate standard figures or thereabouts.

7. Uwe Brunzel 1987 M3 230k kms with engine rebuild. Stock EVO3 bottom end, 215 head, 48mm throttles, EVO3 Valve Springs, 290/290 KK cams,stock exhaust no cats, MAXX ALpha-N with stock air filter, 330cc injectors. Optimax or any other 98 ROZ petrol. Last dynoed with 248bhp and 200lbs(without AN) 

8. Jonathan Sharratt. '88 320is, 210k KMs, Alpha-N, CF airbox, Bartolli backbox, Optimax fuel. Anything between 140-180 at the wheels!!!! I also have a '88 M3 EVO II which i might bring as well if i get it working by then. 80k miles, standard engine.

9. John Howell, 1988 M3 149,000km schrick cams 285/285,Alpha-N cf airbox, supersprint exhaust,optimax,last dyno 254bhp @ flywheel, no reading for torque but would expect about 175/180.

10. Dave Gamble, 1987 Tracked prepped M3 2.5L, with Schrick 284`s, CF airbox, split injection, MBE, BTB single exhaust, no cats. Optimax - 272BHP and 211.6 lbs

11. Dave DMX 2.5 Sport Evo engine approx 35k on rebuild. Shrick 284/ 272(E3). 215 manifold, miltec, Optimax and who knows what management. Currently the Motec is not installed and running std setup but the wiring is all still there, if the guy who wants to buy it hasn't taken it i'll hook it back up. Last dyno 260bhp / 190t at Powerstation (optimistic?) Wouldn't expect more than 240 if the Montronic is on it though.

12. Martin Howard-Smith. 90k Sport Evo with 284/276 cams Maxx A/N and CF Airbox. Last dyno run was 244 @crank and 181 torque on Bexleys dyno. The car was mapped on 95 ron, but I run it on Optimax.

13. Skh - schrick cams 284s, CF airbox, Alpha N management, 3.73 diff, groupA oil pan, car runs on BP Ultimate as available locally. total miles 127k

14. Paul Shepherd. Its a standard Evo2 with a Dastek Uni-Q fitted and AFM removed. Dunno what power to expect as had some issues recently with it, but should be atleast standard 220BHP. Made 226BHP and 170ftlbs ATF on Dasteks rollers when Gerry mapped it. Was mapped on BP Ultimate, but running on Tesco's 97 at the moment.

15. Aaron Weddell. 1986 E30 M3, standard except Milltek exhaust with (drum roll please) 300,000km on the clock. I'd expect about 185bhp at the fly.  And possibly to have the lowest reading of the day!

16. Dan Sutton E30 M3 1990 (215 late model with cat) standard, 220k. Optimax ar any 98 RON. Hope to beat 200 fly wheel hp from last run (dodgy ecu replaced!)

Cheers guys, I'll add those!

Steve - Miles and type of fuel?

Jonathan Sharratt

'88 320is, 210k KMs, Alpha-N, CF airbox, Bartolli backbox, Optimax fuel.

Power, dont ask me about power! going on my dyno runs anything between 140-180 at the wheels!!!!

I also have a '88 M3 EVO II which i might bring as well if i get it working by then. 80k miles, standard engine.

 John Howell

 1988 M3 149,000km schrick cams 285/285,Alpha-N cf airbox

 supersprint exhaust,optimax,last dyno 254bhp @ flywheel

 no reading for torque but would expect about 175/180.

Dave Gamble

1987 Tracked prepped M3 2.5L, with Schrick 284`s, CF airbox, split injection, MBE, BTB single exhaust, no cats. Optimax - 272BHP and 211.6 lbs

Regards,

Dave

Cheers Dave, added you to the list.

Uwe, it's certainly a possiblity but I just think it will complicate things... we'll probably be struggling for time as it is (depending on final numbers obviously) although there is the potential to do this at the end if there is time.

Nick, I maybe up for this with my Evo2. Although there is a little attention needed before I can commit.

Its a standard Evo2 with a Dastek Uni-Q fitted and AFM removed. Dunno what power to expect as had some issues recently with it, but should be atleast standard 220BHP. Made 226BHP and 170ftlbs ATF on Dasteks rollers when Gerry mapped it. Was mapped on BP Ultimate, but running on Tesco's 97 at the moment.

BTW my full name is Paul Shpeherd.

Guys,

Made a slight cockup on this one... I've actually got another event to attend that day

Obviously I'd like to be there with the Ewok but I don't want to have to alter the date just to suit my needs, so what do people want to do? Move the date forward a week perhaps or stick to it and I'll send a freelancer along...?

Nick,

I offer to take EWOK along to the RR.

Karn

Well, I was going to dap upto Gerry in Fife before this meet to get my Evo2 remapped and rectify the very lean idle and lean fueling upto 2500 RPM. (long story involving a faulty barometric sensor) I was looking forward to it especially as my car feels better than it ever has at the top end, but also I wanted to see Ewok on the rollers as personally I am very interestind in making the same mods with the Evo2 in the not too distant future (CF Airbox, BTB Ex man, etc)

I would struggle to get up there, although I would take a couple of days off and journey up there to have it done if the date doesn't change, I would appreciate a later date.

I'd like to hold a dyno day at my place of work in the not too distant future, although I wanted to combine it with some sort of track day here too. We are close to having a new state of the art dyno installed too.

Might be able to get a freelancer to take the Ewok up... not entirely sure that's such a good idea though

Suppose I could always come and do the first run in the morning and then scoot off to where I need to be and let a freelancer do the rest of the words.

Right, sorted.

Aaron is going to cover the event and I'll bring the Ewok just for the morning. Sorry, I know it seems rude to turn up and leave straight away but.. it's the best I can do

Yup, I'm going to cover it so put me down for a slot:

1986 E30 M3, standard except Milltek exhaust with (drum roll please) 300,000km on the clock.

I'd expect about 185bhp at the fly.  And possibly to have the lowest reading of the day!

Last time I had it dynoed (about a year ago) it had about 185bhp and 172 lb/ft of torque which personally I think is pretty tidy. 

Not to start the whole Fifth Gear thing off again but I will just reiterate that comparing my car to the leaderboard is somewhat unreasonable as I saw the absolute ragging the press cars get and the way they are chucked about.  It's a bit like the old, what's the fastest car you've ever driven?  Answer: a hire car!

But anyway, looking forward to meeting you guys!

Well, I have replaced it once in the past three years of ownership.

But a duplex chain will not snap...

Dan Sutton E30 M3 1990 (215 late model with cat) standard, 220k. Optimax ar any 98 RON

Hope to beat 200 fly wheel hp from last run (dodgy ecu replaced!)

I'm going away for a few days so I thought I'd check to see if the event is still going ahead?

Cheers

Simon

Any spaces left? If so...

Nick Dalton - 1989 195bhp with a Milltek and recent rebuild, but otherwise standard. Optimax and 230,000km. Anything over 180 flywheel would be welcome!

Nick @ TBMW wrote: Nice one Paul,  PM me and we'll arrange a time and place - you bringing the Evo 2 then?

Nick, I would have loved to have brought the Evo2, as that one was really, really flying! But, its been fully stripped for some rot and minor repairs. I am up Dastek this Thurs/Friday with my Sport Evo and going to have Gerry fit a Uni-Q to it (I wish they'd hurry up and release them, I'd do it myself )

[EDIT] So I will be bringing that, not the Evo2. [EDIT]

Also while I am there, we are also fitting one to an E36 M3 which has been Supercharged too, this may run into Saturday, so maynot be there? It would have to be a last minute decision

Simon - I can meet you somewhere on the M5 (or off it) if you like

Paul - no worries about the Evo2. So do you think you'll be there or not?

NIck, I'll be getting on the M5 at Junction 8 (strensham) so anywhere north of there would be great!

Imagine the noise!

Nick @ TBMW wrote: Paul - no worries about the Evo2. So do you think you'll be there or not?

My car will be finished, but its the E36 that may not be. If thats ready too, would that be welcome or is it just an E30 day?

215DMX wrote: MOST power buys the drinks in the pub after !!!

I'll leave my wallet at home then!

Nick, we'll work very hard to get both cars there

If there are some spare slots would you mind a bit of variety? My mate has a Alfa GTV 3L V6 that he would like to bring? Hes well into BMWs (tutored by me!) and would like to see what some of you guys have been up to, he likes sticking his car on the RR so if there are empty slots he would be glad to fill one for you?!?

Paul - nice one

Jonny - that'll be fine!

Nick @ TBMW wrote: Simon - might be a bit of a convoluted route for me... perhaps we can meet up half way there... maybe somewhere along the M50?

Ah, didn't realise you'd be coming up the M50, I'll be coming up this way too from South Wales.

Actually ignore me, I've clearly lost the plot

I'll be going M4, A419, A420, A34, M40, A43...

Just been pointed to this,

Might be able to come not 100%, but im a little worried about the RR, looking on their website im not too happy with the way they have been strapping the cars down, so i will go along and assess the situation on the day after i see how some of your cars are tested.

So nick add me as a Maybe on the day.

Andrew

I've been there before and didn't have a problem with the methods used but no probs if you want to watch before you have a go!

Could you put down your full name and spec etc

Of course, but you'll have to pay for two ;O)

Nick @ TBMW wrote: I've been there before and didn't have a problem with the methods used but no probs if you want to watch before you have a go! Could you put down your full name and spec etc

Andrew Liddell 318is With 2.3l S14 215BHP Genuine Hartge Modified 50/50 Exhaust manifold, 8k Since Minor Rebuild (stripped/cleaned/replaced worn parts) Hartge Exhaust, Stock Everything else. Hopping to Get 200bhp. But Nick if its okay with you i dont want the car featured (for the reasons we spoke about before)

Andrew

Im going M11 A14 if anyone wants to join.

Andrew

Jon, Buckets,

We might as well all meet up and travel togather.

My be an Idea to run up the M11, A14 and either join the M1 or continue up the A1m and then cross country. Uwe`s going so we could possibly meet him on route as well.

Only going to cruise up there.

Regards,

Dave

Dave if your going to go up the M11 give me a shout then.

Andrew

M3Nally Ill be passing by there also, there is a services just up from Bar Hill do you want to meet there at say 8.10am?

Ill have the Sat nav in car so if you want to follow me?

My number is 07713629896

Andrew

stevesingo wrote: Anybody coming from the north west M6? Steve

I am, junc 14 of the M6, Stafford, me and my mate are driving down from there.

If your coming from around there or passing through we could meet up if you want?

stevesingo wrote: We could meet on the junction if you like. If I'm not there by 7:45 push on without me as a lot can happen between Cumbria and Stafford traffic wise. Steve

There is a service station inbetween junction 11 and 10, Hilton park, we could meet you there say 7:30-45? If your not there by 7:50 we'll push on. look out for my 320is and a brilliant red Alfa GTV (he likes RR it)

sound OK?

Steve...yeah, err sleeeepppp!

How far are you from Fife?

stevesingo wrote: Paul, quite a way, J36 M6. Steve

cool, just a warning about the M6, there digging it up (when aren't they!) inbetween junc 15-14 and 13-12, there 40MPH zones with average speed cameras, there only a short sections, about 3-4 miles.

Jon, Buckets,

We might as well all meet up and travel togather.

Ok, what petrol station is closest to this place? BP or Shell, and do they sell the super stuff?

Or is there a Tesco's with 99?

Nick, can you bring a latest copy of your Total BMW I can buy...I have a hard job finding one locally here. Also a subscription form too please!