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e34 m20 520i overheating

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Forum Name: BMW 5 Series
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Topic: e34 m20 520i overheating
Posted By: 1billyboy3
Subject: e34 m20 520i overheating
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 18:53
hi there, im new to bmws and need some help if anyone can help.  ive had the car for about 2 weeks now and just replaced the cambelt, waterpump, thermostat(was running cold permanently due to lack of thermostat!). Ive followed the instructions from my haynes manual regarding the refilling of coolant and water and getting rid of air locks(maybe) the car runs ok but the temp sits just under 3/4 mark and when i take it round the block every time i accelerate the gauge climbs above the line towards the red making me a tad nervous. Also i cannot get any heat into the car itself(only blows cold) I would be very grateful if anyone of you knowledgable guys could help me out as i darednt drive it anywhere in case i damage it



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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 18:59

They can be an absolute pig to bleed.

This sounds like your problem, so I'll not frighten you with the rest of the "could be's"

I'd suggest you take it to a local mechanic to get it bled, as damage that head, and it'll be expensive.



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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:01
There is a scrap yard by you, I have the number somewhere, they are a bm specialist and very helpful, with their own workshop, if you hang around online, I'l get it for you.

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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: 1billyboy3
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:04
cheers will do, also what do i look for apart from the usual to find out if ive damaged thehead?


Posted By: e34-520iSE
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:05
Hi! It sounds like you have a big bad air-lock in there. M20's are notoriously hard to bleed! Do a search on this forum for M20 bleeding. I think it's been covered before. If not I can tell you my own "crazy Shaun" method of bleeding - takes minutes but gets frowned on!!!

Best of luck,

Shaun


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Self confessed madman
1990 Brilliantrot 2 ltr M20.

Air force definition of explosives: A loud noise followed by the sudden going away of what was once there a second ago.





Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:06

01536 723587

And welcome to the forum



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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: 1billyboy3
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:08
thanks very much guys, very quick responses  Id like to hear more about the frowned upon bleeding technique as ive spent the best part of 6 hours trying to bleed the system earlier today and getting very stressed with it

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1990 E34 520I AUTO


Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:12

Originally posted by 1billyboy3 1billyboy3 wrote:

thanks very much guys, very quick responses  Id like to hear more about the frowned upon bleeding technique as ive spent the best part of 6 hours trying to bleed the system earlier today and getting very stressed with it

Me too, I gave up with mine and took it to "my chap"

 



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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:13
Oh and be careful about what coolant you use, cast iron block, alloy head, and don't mix them, some of them when mixed form nasty stuff that dissolves alloy !!!

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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: 1billyboy3
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:19

I will have another go in the morning and change the oil also, if that doesnt work then I will do the same. When I asked my brother-in-law(mechanic for 25years) what to do he said to take off one of the hoses that go into the bulkhead, as this should have been the blocked place. when water starts to come through re-fit pipe and all should be well. still no joy, even after doing it to all 3 pipes that enter the bulkhead.



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1990 E34 520I AUTO


Posted By: 1billyboy3
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:25
Nigel.... I cant seem to open up your advanced driving link. is it something to do with just teaching new drivers or do you teach to instructor level also? as ive been considering trying to do this(maybe) how hard is it? I can drive any coach/bus/lorry so i know how to drive safely and responsibly, just apprehensive about the teaching side

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1990 E34 520I AUTO


Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:30

working okay for me...

http://www.advanced-driving.co.uk/ - http://www.advanced-driving.co.uk/



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    2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto

    1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
    2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
    1999 BMW 323Ci
    1995 BMW 318i SE
    1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
    1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
    1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
    1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
    1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly


Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 28-January-2006 at 19:59

i like this reference to the Max Driver scheme, it's refreshingly honest

Isn't Max Driver just the IAM Skill for Life package - rebadged and more expensive?

In short, yes. Max Driver is basically skill for life, but marketed and aimed directly at Younger Drivers, via Max Power's Lad Mag who's main audiance is Young Males. However, for the extra cost, you are garanteed a 25% discount from Adrian Flux, you are not garanteed to recieve this on basic IAM membership (although I did).



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    2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto

    1983 Ford Sierra XR4i
    2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118
    1999 BMW 323Ci
    1995 BMW 318i SE
    1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS
    1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX
    1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX
    1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL
    1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly


Posted By: e34-520iSE
Date Posted: 30-January-2006 at 05:08
Did the "Crazy Shaun" bleeding method work for you then 1BillyBoy?

Cheers,

Shaun


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Self confessed madman
1990 Brilliantrot 2 ltr M20.

Air force definition of explosives: A loud noise followed by the sudden going away of what was once there a second ago.





Posted By: 1billyboy3
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 01:17
worked a treat bud ta very much like

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1990 E34 520I AUTO


Posted By: m5bm
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 06:32

billy boy,

 

Did you get the car sorted.

 

Cheers



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Loving the E38


Posted By: Doive
Date Posted: 31-January-2006 at 06:38
So what's the crazy shaun method of bleeding then? I have a 525e that needs a coolant change, and I don't much fancy chasing an air lock. Noticed the other day that the mixture was a bit weak, so pulled the bottom hose off the expansion tank and drained off the excess, replacing with neat coolant. Run engine, repeat process several times then take for a longish run to ensure a good mix. Seemed to work perfectly well for me, but I'd like to do the whole system properly and get it fully flushed.

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1987 BMW 525e Lux Auto (sadly deceased)
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Posted By: d8mbn
Date Posted: 13-February-2006 at 15:33
someone please tell me the crazy shaun method aswell as having probs with overheating so new stat and water pump to be fitted dont want hassle with air aswell

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if it aint fixed break it


Posted By: 540 V8
Date Posted: 13-February-2006 at 20:11

I drained and re-filled my e34 530iSE with coolant and it took me and two competent mechanics nearly an hour to bleed properly! They are a b**ch to bleed and need patience along the way.

Good luck!

Mike



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Current:E34 540i Touring 6 speed manual(Mpower bodykit & suspension)& Chrysler Voyager 3.3 V6 auto
Previous:E34 530iSE AC Schnitzer suspension.
E28 525e auto-Standard


Posted By: e34-520iSE
Date Posted: 14-February-2006 at 06:11
Hmm it looks like the "Crazy Shaun" method is in demand here! Tell you what I'll do. I'll post a page on the net and you can all see it, save me typing PM's! I'll try to have a page up by the weekend.

Cheers,

Shaun


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Self confessed madman
1990 Brilliantrot 2 ltr M20.

Air force definition of explosives: A loud noise followed by the sudden going away of what was once there a second ago.






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