right come on lads, boring what car next
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Topic: right come on lads, boring what car next
Posted By: chippy
Subject: right come on lads, boring what car next
Date Posted: 22-June-2005 at 13:18
| I know you guys are obsessed with all things M but having sold my E30 M3 I need a four door car with decent boot, non M running costs, it is more like a stop gap for a year or so until I know what my finances are like (then I will return to the M fold), approx £8k to spend... |
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Posted By: Stone-IslandV8
Date Posted: 22-June-2005 at 14:01
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E39...late 525 or 530, I got a 1999 520 and love it. ------------- Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
Posted By: JC , e30 m3
Date Posted: 22-June-2005 at 15:11
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They might hang me for it, but... Subaru Impreza WRX estate. Spend 5/6K and save the rest for your forthcoming Sport Evo or E60 M5! ------------- jamie jamie@carlin.co.uk www.carlin.co.uk 89 Europameister 78 911 SC 93 MK1 MX-5 98 Ford Focus |
Posted By: M3Nally
Date Posted: 22-June-2005 at 15:53
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JC,
Thats a good shout |
Posted By: stevie53
Date Posted: 22-June-2005 at 15:54
chippy sorry to hear of your loss, was thinking of what cars I might look at if I were in your position and here goes; 2001 BMW 525 SE 46K £9000 2000 BMW 528 SE 52K £8500 2002 BMW 530 SE 69K £9000 1999 VW Sharan VR6 42K £8000 2002 VW Passat 1.8T 20V 34K £8000 2001 Mitsubishi Galant 2.5V6 sport 26K £7000 2000 Saab 9-5 Aero Hot 2.3 56K £8000 1999 Volvo V70 T5 Est. 77K £8000 2000 Audi A4 1.8T 47K £8000 good luck with your search, let's hope you return soon 
stevie ------------- ///2000 E39 M5 Imola Red/// NO MORE una volta lei ha avuto l'italiano lei non andrà mai tedesco di nuovo haha |
chippy wrote:Posted By: micky_h
Date Posted: 22-June-2005 at 16:05
| Well my next one will be a Mondeo V6 Ghia X.Cheap and loaded. |
Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 22-June-2005 at 16:27
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a vauxhall omega 3.0 v6 elite (in fact any omega) is very underrated, very cheap and hence a lot of car for the money even better loaded than the mondeo ghia x rwd, bmw comparable build quality at bargain basement prices, both to buy and to service... i had a 2.0 gls miggy, and no car ive had up to now can beat it for space and comfort (ford fiesta / ford orion / honda concerto / ford mondeo / vauxhall omega / bmw e36 / bmw e46) 5-series rival, i tend to favour smaller cars, and everyone thinks you're the police, but if its good enough to schlep up and down the roads by traffic cops then its good enough for joe public imo ------------- 2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto 1983 Ford Sierra XR4i 2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118 1999 BMW 323Ci 1995 BMW 318i SE 1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS 1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX 1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX 1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL 1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly |
Posted By: Eamo
Date Posted: 22-June-2005 at 18:34
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honda accord type R!!
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Posted By: stephenperry
Date Posted: 22-June-2005 at 18:37
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interesting choice although fuel consumption will be murder (i've had a honda and it was a gutsy bleeder, and it was only a 1.6 with twin-carbs!), parts expensive, and servicing might be the same with the R badge as it is with any other sports variant - licence to print (extra) money ------------- 2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto 1983 Ford Sierra XR4i 2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118 1999 BMW 323Ci 1995 BMW 318i SE 1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS 1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX 1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX 1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL 1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly |
Posted By: SHEPSM3
Date Posted: 22-June-2005 at 18:43
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I was looking for a stop gap car about 18 months ago, and nearly bought a Golf GTTDi 130PD. These are cracking cars, well once you got a sensible suspension kit on them, and I'd expect you'd have a chip to give it plenty more power with the economy too, helping you save even more money for your next car!!! ------------- [IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/ShepsM3/New-1a1.jpg">[IMG]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y135/ShepsM3/New-1b1.jpg"> |
Posted By: chippy
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 04:08
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Cheers guys some very good suggestions there, some of which I have thought about and some I never thought about. I think my shortlist is these two:
Subaru Impreza Wagon late original UK car, good reliability, perfect size, not too big, image I don't care about, they do chew fuel but they are fast without really trying. Accord Type R (thanks Eamo but you had insider knowledge!) well built, cheap to run, But I have a feeling (have not driven one yet) that it would become a bit tiresome after a while due to VTEC. These are the two I had narrowed it down to but you guys have thrown in some curve balls: 528/530: very tempting, although I believe in order to get decent money when I sell they have to be autos, not a big auto fan. Omega, yes I looked at a couple of these and correct they are very underrated but they are almost too big as I will still be using it a bit round London. Galant: now this car I had forgotten about, mmm warrants a bit of research, good car, v reliable and fast. Golf: my wife already has one and they are good but I do not want two. In fact I find VWs great cars but a bit dull, ie I looked at a Passat 1.8T Sport the other day, great car, lovely interior, fastish, just made me want to got to sleep! And yes I am already thinking ahead and planning to buy that E34/E39 M5 in a year or two!!!! Fingers crossed. |
Posted By: lancelotII
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 04:12
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One word. Japanese.
Forget BMW if you want something to drive around in that isn't going to self destruct while you drive it. Pesronally, every one of their cars in the last 6 years has had some issue with it, that you end up having to deal with. The well engineered thing is a myth, they over engineer plenty, but key items are usually under engineered. Get something Japanese. |
Posted By: brybusa
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 04:16
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Imprezza's are costly beasts to run thou', and a bit fragile Cant see you saving much(any) cost against an "M" car on that one
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Posted By: chippy
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 04:35
the original cars used to come top in the JD Power survey thingy, costly probably boils down to: fuel and tyres. My stepfather has had a 97 Impreza wagon from new and has had two £800 servicses, the rest were cheap oil changes, has changed the clutch once and it is still on the same turbo; mileage: 150k but then again I have heard from other sources that even the UK spec engines can blow... |
Posted By: chippy
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 04:36
I am with you there, it has to be Japanese. |
Posted By: brybusa
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 04:46
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I had one and it wasnt uncommon to get single figure MPG on a real good thrash...and I dont think Imprezza's are that reliable, I know we have problems with our BM but they aint as highly strung as an Imprezza have a scan thru here and search for engine blow ups/reliability http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=1 - http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=1 Oh, and even a new, un modified Imprezza is a chav chariot IMHO!
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Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 05:27
LOL. Chavs can't afford imprezzas. If they can't even afford a genuine burbury baseball cap, how on earth are they going to afford a Scooby?
------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: lancelotII
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 05:35
| I wouldn't include any of the "crazy gang" Scooby/Mitsu's in the equation. They are fairly obvisouly, with their mad service schedules, going to be out of the ball park. |
Posted By: e30m3
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 05:35
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i've heard the uk imprezas are very reliable. It's the special editions and the imports which are the problem as they are not mapped to run on UK fuel. My mates P1 melted a piston because subaru used a jap ECU which thought it was running 100 octane fuel, bit disapointing to think a manufacturer would over look this. ------------- Andy 1987 M3 - Henna red, UK supplied 1971 V12 Jaguar E-type - Midnight blue 1991 205 GTI - Black track car 2003 Tonykart Venox Rotax Max |
Posted By: Phil-C
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 05:53
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FWIW,
In your position, if I wasn't fussed about RWD I'd buy a Type-R Accord all day long. Honda's are absolutely bullet proof. I was considering ditching the M3 and getting an S2000 (I was annoyed at old car things and had borrowed a friends E46 and fancied a new car for hassle free fun) so I looked into servicing. Their BIG service was something like £350. I think it was on TG or 5th Gear when Damon Hill drove one and said it was the best FWD car he had driven as they have some crazy mechanical lsd. Yes he was on their payroll (I think he did an ad for them?) but even so. My girlfriend used to have an old V-tec Civic and when the cams change it is fab. Honda make great cars. ------------- |
Posted By: SundayJumper
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 06:22
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Well, I've just bought a Fontera. I wanted something big to lug around building materials and deal with trips to the dump - basically any job where I don't want to take the M3 out. Thought about an Omega, but it was a bit boring. The Frontera will happily carry loads of stuff, and I'm also planning a few off-roading jaunts, a whole new world of petrol-powered fun for me ! Bask in the gloriousness of the £740 Frontera - http://www.sundayjumper.com/frontera.jpg - CLICKY At the weekend, I'll be fitting http://www.sundayjumper.com/tyres.jpg - these and a 2" lift kit, then at some point taking it http://www.devilspit.co.uk - here . Sod £200 track days that kill a set of tyres & brakes in an afternoon, off-road is where it's at Steve. ------------- Sundayjumper - now with added 328 Sport |
Posted By: brybusa
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 06:41
Plenty of imprezza's in the 4-5K bracket now and in the arms of the Max Powered brigade Oh and that lotto lout Michael Carrol has an Evo with the words "KING OF CHAVS" loggo'd all down the doors!.. Go on to scoobynet again and search for chav, there all up in arms about it! MAF sensors also go and on an imprezza this can cause the whole engine to lunch itself 97/98 models suffer piston rock, 2001 WRX's are fragile,transmissions and clutches are not exactly long lasting, the list goes on Ive had one, bought the T shirt and watched the film, some go on and on but believe me they are tempremental beasts and require more upkeep than an M car
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Posted By: SundayJumper
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 06:55
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Have you seen how easy it is to borrow money at the moment ? And the number of not-very-bright people who get themselves so deep into debt that they have to declare personal bankruptcy ? Those are the chavs buying things they can't pay for ! Even the E46 is getting into the hands of chavs now. I hate to say it, but I sometimes feel uncomfortable driving my E36 for fear of being grouped with baseball cap-wearing oiks in kitted 318s Steve. ------------- Sundayjumper - now with added 328 Sport |
Posted By: Phil-C
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 06:57
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I used to work at a place that PDI'd Fronteras when they first came out. We had to take them out for test drives to make sure everything was okay. We'd run them around getting some alarming lean angles round the bends (they corner better than you would imagine although the ground gets pretty close to the window..) and when we brough them back they would be pouring with smoke from underneath where all the wax coating was being burnt off.
They make a great noise when you lock the wheels up too! ------------- |
Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 07:14
I think my definition of a chav and yours are different. I would have said a chav was a person who wear a fake burburry cap, lots of cheap chunky gold plated jewelery, a tracksuit with the bottoms tucked into the socks. They are also on the dole or playing truant from school and wouldn't dream of working for a living. Their main asperatiuons in life are to get stoned, get their girlfriend knocked up so they can get a council house and sponge off the state for the rest of their lives. I wouldn't class the max power brigade as chavs since to be able to afford a stupid bodykit for you corsa you need a job, or at least you need a job to get finance even if you can't afford to pay it back. ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: SundayJumper
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 07:19
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I guess I just use a broader brush than you do when stereotyping Steve. ------------- Sundayjumper - now with added 328 Sport |
Posted By: JC , e30 m3
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 08:29
I can't believe fronteras still command 3 figure sums!! 
I seem to recall a bit of a bbc watchdog scandal story about the Frontera..? Took the missus on an off roading day earlier this year - Fantastic! ------------- jamie jamie@carlin.co.uk www.carlin.co.uk 89 Europameister 78 911 SC 93 MK1 MX-5 98 Ford Focus |
Posted By: dom_k
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 08:36
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id buy an evo over a scooby - check out my sig! ------------- www.dkperformanceimports.co.uk |
Posted By: chippy
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 08:47
agreed I think wagons less so, but then agin we all drive (just) BMWs look at the image these have at present, also I could not care less about image if it is a good car...
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Posted By: chippy
Date Posted: 23-June-2005 at 08:56
| interesting about UK Imprezas blowing engines/running costs, seems like the real bullet proof Jap car is the Accord, the only reservation I have about it is the VTEC business, and front wheel drive, having been used to RWD for the last few years I really don't want to go back, although I hear the diff is amazing |
Posted By: gary
Date Posted: 24-June-2005 at 09:14
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Thought about E46 330D? ------------- http://www.bmwccscotland.co.uk/cars/e30/sportevo.html" rel="nofollow - E30 M3 Sport Evo III |
Posted By: chippy
Date Posted: 24-June-2005 at 10:42
yes, and I know they are excellent cars, just can't understand the premium that the diesel costs over the petrol version, tbh I would rather have a 330i/328i touring, but decent ones seem to be a little beyond my budget |
Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 24-June-2005 at 11:00
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The huge price difference between the deisel and petrol 3 series totally negates the better fuel economy unless you do a huge number of miles. ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: Andy B
Date Posted: 24-June-2005 at 11:42
How about a Renault Vel Satis (a quality alternative to an Audi, BM, Merc or even Volvo) pick up a brand new one from resource for a few bags of sand and you will have the added bonus of getting to know your local Renault dealer staff really well (don't worry it wont cost much as it will have a 3 year warranty). Should leave you with enough money to buy another M3
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