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Topic: rollcage
Posted By: v8m3
Subject: rollcage
Date Posted: 18-February-2005 at 17:50
 rollcage nearly done in the new shell never realised there were so many bars looks the dogs ............... cant wait to get it back and get it painted, made a few changes to the origanal matter cage copy mainly for better triangulation and different buckets where the rear diff mounts,cage should be finnished tomorrow then theres just the new bias pedal box and the new rear shelf and fire wall also moved rear upright turrets in so the new 60mm coilovers dont rub then straight to paint shop



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Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 18-February-2005 at 17:52
Pics !!!


Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 18-February-2005 at 18:14
Yeah pics dude !!!!!!

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Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 20-February-2005 at 05:21
This thread , now with added pics

Serious looking shell prep going on here. New roof skin,modded rear turrets, diff pick-up etc etc . Nice work



















Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 20-February-2005 at 05:32

Nice looking shell there , I only heard that they bolted the diff on the roll cage after mine was all sprayed otherwise I would have done this , what I have done is strengthen up my axle , If I do get any problems with the diff ripping out I'll have to change it.

 

What are you using the car for , rallying ?



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Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 20-February-2005 at 07:24

thanks very much to bmg for loading pics the car is going to be a rep jagermeister car with 450/550 bhp ls1 corvette engine in for road use and track days ,but after my last car wanted to start this one right, still some bars to be added will go to paint shop on wednesday then home for build really pleased with cage (3ms rollcage speacialists on 01789731331 ) there fabrication work is second to none



Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 13:14
Here's some more pics of how the shell is progressing on V8M3's car.




























Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 13:28
going in sat to be preped and painted internally cant wait to get it back and start fitting in the new suspension really pleased with the fabrication work looks great


Posted By: M2_Harry
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 13:56

Originally posted by V8M3 V8M3 wrote:

the car is going to be a rep jagermeister car with 450/550 bhp ls1 corvette engine in for road use and track days

Nice work there, so how come you decided to put a chevy V8 in and not a BMW engine?

Harry



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1975 BMW 2002 Touring - M3 Evo Engine.
1988 E30 325 SE


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 14:12

i ran a 332 bhp engine in my old m3 and looked around to see what was available in the weight catagory; all was cast and too heavy i want to run reliable 450 bhp with 6 speed so i can go to the ring and i have the car down to 850kgs the only engine that fitted with loads of space around for cooling was the minaro ls1 engine and the tuneing parts are endless up to 750 bhp normally aspirated or 1200 turboed really no choice but i still love my standard cars with passion



Posted By: M2_Harry
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 15:47

sounds good

thats a lot of power in such a light car - its going to be quick!

have you got a weight target for the car?

 



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1975 BMW 2002 Touring - M3 Evo Engine.
1988 E30 325 SE


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 16:03
harry car should weigh no more than 850kgs with full tank of fuel


Posted By: Lancastrian
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 16:06

V8M3

Did you see my suggestion for which orange to choose????

I guess you might have just ignored it.



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E30 M3 Project - Specification TBC


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 16:08
no got the colour hows your car coming on thanks for that


Posted By: Lancastrian
Date Posted: 01-March-2005 at 16:13

I replied to your other post but alll I cam e up with was the Tamiya model paint mix and a couple of links to the Porsche version as used on Jagermeister cars. What colour did you choose in the end? Is it a stock colour or special.

My car: Slowly but surely. Just about everything is off the car and much of it prepped ready for spraying. Really just the rolling shell to prep and then I have to convince my sprayer to find the time to do it hopefully around Easter or early April.



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E30 M3 Project - Specification TBC


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 02-March-2005 at 02:18

my painter could not locate continental orange so he got the chips out and found the closest which will do,stickers are all done bloke on s14 wanted 500 for them in 3 layer nightmare to fit had them done by a company in telford 1 layer printed for 225 fitted bought new doors and evo sport front wings keep the weight down as much as pos no filler just waiting for cash so i can buy my carbon dash and rear spoiler of markus, he has been so helpfull,



Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 02-March-2005 at 03:12
V8m3

Looking and sounding very smart, 2 sorted M3's on the go in the same year, how lucky is the forum. Makes my effort seem quite weady. I'll cage mine eventually, but need to find a place i can completely strip the car that has enough room to work on it.

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http://www.bmminiparts.com - New Genuine BMW & Mini OEM parts - www.bmminiparts.com

1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added


Posted By: lancelotII
Date Posted: 02-March-2005 at 03:43
Originally posted by v8m3 v8m3 wrote:

harry car should weigh no more than 850kgs with full tank of fuel


Just out of interest, how did you arrive at that figure ?


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 02-March-2005 at 08:56
well with the rover v8 in with no trim only i had it down to under a ton now it has no trim heater (sunroof 33kgs)glass in sides  ali bootwell tank dash carbon fibre all brackets and soundproofing removed steel rear shelf and firewall gone and replaced in ali no door internals but the cage weighs the same as sunroof and roof skin and much lighter wheels  lighter ap calipers front and rear, new wireing loom with only enough to pass mot the list goes on, thanks toby for your compement hope you find time and space to do yours


Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 02-March-2005 at 16:32
Who did your wireing loom , this is something that I have not sorted out yet , I just need the basic lights and wipers,heater

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Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 02-March-2005 at 17:06
j.a.wiring design ltd on 01217067036 or  07968986536  hope this is of help to you ian


Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 01-April-2005 at 14:51
New pics.

Wayne, The pics are coming in as a JPG , but in this small size. You can send pics as large as you like in JPG form.













Posted By: DAWIEM3
Date Posted: 02-April-2005 at 01:20

V8M3,

Must say your car is looking awesome. Good job. Keep the pic`s coming as its inspritional to all of us what can be achieved.

Can`t wait to see the finished car. Not sure about the engine you using but each to his own and I respect that. With the attention to detail, this ones going to be one real bad ass machine.

Great work, keep it up.

 

Regards,

Dave 



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E30 M3 Road car ( Now in Hongkong )
E30 M3 Track Car
S14 2.0L 2002 in progress
E30 C2 2.7 Alpina
E36 M3 3.2 EVO


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 03-April-2005 at 15:24

car is now fully painted inside they are now preping the outside,it is all in primer wont be long before i get it back completly painted which is good realy because im running out of space to put the new parts. winscreen people took the glass out of my old shell they informed me that it was evo glass thiner than normal is this so? started work on all the suspension bits now front and rear beam and trailing arms have been shot blasted and powder coated all new wheel bearings and nylatron bushes, ap rear brakes have also arrived as well as eibach anti rollbar kit.

thanks to bmg for uploading pics and markus for all his help suplying cabon dash and rear spoiler and air ducts



Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 03-April-2005 at 15:28


Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 03-April-2005 at 18:22






Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 04-April-2005 at 02:27
Cars starting to come together and will give me some pointers for my rollcage, when it happens!

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Toby
http://www.bmminiparts.com - New Genuine BMW & Mini OEM parts - www.bmminiparts.com

1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added


Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 14-April-2005 at 18:01
Latest pics from Wayne.











Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 23-April-2005 at 10:19
A few more pics of how Wayne's car is progressing.   









Posted By: neo1
Date Posted: 25-April-2005 at 16:19

 looking good wayne, keep the pics coming mate

 

cheers Rob Durham



Posted By: DAWIEM3
Date Posted: 26-April-2005 at 08:35

 

awesome!

Can`t wait to see it out on track.

Cheers,  Dave.



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E30 M3 Road car ( Now in Hongkong )
E30 M3 Track Car
S14 2.0L 2002 in progress
E30 C2 2.7 Alpina
E36 M3 3.2 EVO


Posted By: andyclient
Date Posted: 26-April-2005 at 11:06

Looking Great Wayne

Real Top Quality workmanship

keep up the good work

cheers

Andy



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01 E46 320d Touring
88 E30 M3 Sadly Gone
93 E36 325 TD Gone but still going
87 E30 Hartge 325 (gone but not forgotten)


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 26-April-2005 at 16:27

thanks for the praise, just a few more jobs done,evo glass as gone in, lexon none scratch on sides brake lines nearly done and bias valve in, carbon fiber look aroquip finished steering colum and ford fiesta throttle pedal new fuel filler, engine is now here so real work starts will get bmg to post latest pics

  thanks again wayne



Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 27-April-2005 at 13:43
Latest pics













Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 04-June-2005 at 16:15

hi guys, car is really coming on now, all the wiring is complete and working all the lights are in fuel and brake pipes are in and bled petrol tank is in, carbon fibre dash is in thanks to markus, gone in today to have the exhaust made at exhaust-by-design, second to none where tube is concerned.Still waiting for parts to come from oz for the engine but the car that they have come off as just been dynoed at 438 bhp@ the rear wheels, that should liven things up a bit, thanks again to bmg for posting pics as i still cant work out how to

wayne



Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 04-June-2005 at 17:19
nice car!

shame it hasn't got an S14...

or at least an M5 V8

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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....


Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 05-June-2005 at 16:31
Latest pics. Wayne, I can't post to the original thread on s14.net while the site moves servers. I'll add the pics when it is fully open again.











Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 05-June-2005 at 16:41
That's really coming together nicely, are those wheels proper bbs mag racing jobbies. The dash is quality, can't wit to see the finished article

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Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 06-June-2005 at 01:30

thanks robbie, wheels are image split rims made to the offset i wanted in 18" r,9.5 and f 8.5 fit really nice trying hard to finish it for the ring weekend would love to take it and try it out, but i am not going to rush it

 

wayne



Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 06-June-2005 at 07:24

I was tempted to buy a set of Image3 rims a couple of years ago for my E30 325i, i opted for compo MO's in the end. They do look quality though and better without the centre cap IMO.

Good work dude

If you need one of these, let me know.



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Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 12:05

car is now finished in full livery just waiting for bmg to upload pics for me, looks better than i ever imagined thanks to everyone who has helped with this car,athony murray for paint and prep, 3ms for fabrication and nigel mosely for parts also bmg for pics

 

thanks again wayne



Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 12:25
Wow is all I can say . That car is awesome.First rate job. Please let us know what shows or events you are at so we can see the car in the flesh.












Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 13:16
Wayne,

it looks superb congrats, sorry for an obvious question but what size wheels are those they look nice and snug.

When is it's first outing?


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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
’95 E34 M5
’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 13:21

hi kevin they are 18x9 rears and 18x7.5 fronts and the first outing all being well will be gaydon warwickshire bmw show

 

wayne



Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 13:59
Wow, what tyres are you using?

I ask because John found that his front tyres rubbed on a seam in the wheel arch, that was after he had modified the wheel arches.

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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
’95 E34 M5
’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 14:02

225/40 18 front

245/45/18 rear

 

wayne



Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 14:12
John is running 235/40 17 so the overall  size is pretty much on a par, have you had any special work done to the wheelarches?

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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
’95 E34 M5
’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)


Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 14:50
Quality job dude, sweet, sweet motor, enjoy it

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Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 15:13

kevin all the wheel arches have been rolled and there are no iners but the car is set up quite hard so it dont move much

 

wayne



Posted By: neo1
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 15:52

Wayne, Rob from Durham here mate, all i can say is that looks frigin owesom mate, i am well jelous to be honest, how the hell have you completed that in less than 6 months mate, the last time i was at yours it was still being stripped out. AMAZING  it looks the ********as well, Just one thing is it actually running now on the BIG V8 motor.

 

 



Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 23-July-2005 at 17:29

hi rob how are you, it is running a standard motor at the moment with a nice set of manifolds and no cats we dynoed one this week same spec but different manifolds and it done dave walkers rollers at 400bhp i will fit the big engine kit when the car as been fully sorted, but the car it came off made483 rwhp i think that is about 528 bhp at the fly wheel but there is a problem with the ecu at the moment so should have it sorted this week and it has took 5 months from start to finish, keep in touch

 

wayne



Posted By: SHEPSM3
Date Posted: 24-July-2005 at 05:16

I met Wayne yesturday to collect some parts from him. I was stunned  by how well this car looks. Unfortunately I didn't hear it, but I am sure it won't disappoint  

I am even more confused now by what lump to fit to my SE shell, although the rest ie, brakes, suspension, roll cage and wheels on Waynes car are all the same as I was thinking. Although it makes sense to stick with BMW's powerplants (740 or latest 745i lumps) Waynes choice of engine really does make sense.

Fair play to the guy! Well done Wayne!  

Oh! I don't think the pics do it much justice, although they do look good, viewing in the flesh is HIGHLY recommended!



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Posted By: Hoofty
Date Posted: 24-July-2005 at 18:25

Lordy, I think I've found a new 'ultimate car'. If you EVER need to sell it please call me first!

Amazing job, hope to see it (and hear it) at Gaydon. Top stuff.



Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 05-August-2005 at 12:43

hi all had the car rolling roaded at emerald by dave walker today it made 421 bhp at the flywheel with just a few mods car is absolutly awsome, just have to make some changes to the air intake as it needs more cool air but this will be sorted tomorrow and will be at castle coombe next week all being well.

 

wayne



Posted By: SHEPSM3
Date Posted: 05-August-2005 at 18:02
Wayne, well done! I am looking forward to listening to it!

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Posted By: Karlp
Date Posted: 28-August-2005 at 16:04

Wayne

What engine did you use in this car - and

 

how easy are they to come by.

Karl



Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 29-August-2005 at 02:53

hi carl this is the all aluminium ls1 engine out of camaros pontiacs holdens and minaros also corvettes it has a 6 speed gear box and are readily available i am just shipping another 4 for projects, i have a freind in cali who has his own breakers so if you need one let me know.

 

wayne



Posted By: Karlp
Date Posted: 29-August-2005 at 04:55

What sort of monies are we talking about firstly for the engine etc and then to get it going.

I don't want to waste your time if it ends up being a lot of monies

Karl



Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 29-August-2005 at 05:47

engine and box 5000

ecu and wireing loom 1000

prop 140

engine mounts and gearbox 200

exhaust and manifolds 1000



Posted By: M3DTM
Date Posted: 18-December-2005 at 14:31

Having just visited Wayne and his car I thought I'd put this topic on top again. Wayne and his car are so good they deserve to have this much coverage.

Thanks again Wayne for taking me out in it, just a shame about the weather. My brain now hurts from all the thinking on the way back to Holland, should I go for a similar set up or not? Would it be possible to build one during a vacation next year?

I would really like to know what it will be like to drive on a trackday. Or maybe I should wait for the LS7...

John



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A properly sorted E30 M3 is still 'King of the Ring'


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 18-December-2005 at 17:20

hi john really great meeting you and your friend, sorry about the weather but it was a good drift show would love you to come over on one of the track days so you can see the full potential in the dry with the new engine which should arrive tuesday 500+bhp here we come and the new brakes will be on wednesday just need to sort rollbar links then.Did the video come out ok ?

 

wayne



Posted By: bmwe21
Date Posted: 19-December-2005 at 15:40
Yep Wayne thanks for the hospitality and the great experience!
Dunno about the vid but here are a few photos...






















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Rgds,
Jeroen

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E21 323i - E30 320iS - E30 325i track car


Posted By: maxfield
Date Posted: 19-December-2005 at 15:54

That looks good how much did it al cost?

 



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Posted By: Rags
Date Posted: 21-December-2005 at 16:34
This is automotive porn

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Posted By: M3DTM
Date Posted: 22-December-2005 at 03:28

Yeah, and I made a video of it. Does this make me a porn producer? Is that legal in the UK?

John



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A properly sorted E30 M3 is still 'King of the Ring'


Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 24-December-2005 at 10:06

if this is porn does that make me a pimp?

i see i have got john thinking now also




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