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Topic: More pics of my rally car
Posted By: Ian Godney
Subject: More pics of my rally car
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 10:34

Here is what my car is looking like at the moment

The dash and door cars have been flocked and look good

The car has just come back from having an exhaust made for it , it was a custom job to clear the column as its RHD , and I wanted a side exit so it didn't have to go under the axle , they done a really good job , it was £630 all in

I can now get on and get it finished , got a rally to do on the 28th March !

 



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Posted By: Rob L
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 10:41
Might be a stupid question but .... what's the reason for routing the
exhaust out of the side?


Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 10:48

Originally posted by Rob L Rob L wrote:

Might be a stupid question but .... what's the reason for routing the
exhaust out of the side?

Apart from the fact it will look cool around dusk, with flames spitting out the side

@Ian - your doing a rally on my birthday so obviously your gonna win as it's a great day



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Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 10:57

If it goes out the back it will have to drop under the axle , and they then usually end up getting hit off , and I wanted to copy the works cars as they ran them like that

 

Robbie , bit of luck and we will both have something to celebrate that day  , sorry edited to spell your name right



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Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 11:01
Best of luck dude, the car is looking great. Keep up the good work

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Posted By: Grahame_Vincent
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 11:15

Great photos..... Good luck with it and lets hope it gets you a win in March!



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2004 E46 325Ci Sport Coupe, Silver Grey with Black Leather and M Sports Pack II.
Used to own:-
1995 E38 730i V8, Black, 18" Fox RS3's, Custom Tint Glass, with Silver Leather
1985 E30 316 Black
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Posted By: Nostrils
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 11:41
That is one doin' it car. Attention to detail is brilliant - you've done this before I reckon.

Your rally events come first, and good luck in March - Are you going to do a photostory webpage or file for all us envious people to drool over!!

I am still liking the Subaru Wheels, tasty!

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Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 11:54
yes when its all done i'll include a start to finish thing on my web site , and then include rallies I do , photo's and some video of me getting plenty of sideways

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Posted By: Nostrils
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 11:59
Originally posted by Ian Godney Ian Godney wrote:

yes when its all done i'll include a start to finish thing on my web site , and then include rallies I do , photo's and some video of me getting plenty of sideways


Does help if I look closer, doh! Cheers

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Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 12:11
That flocked dash looks flocking excellamt Ian.


Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 12:15
Looking very nice ! RHD and a side exiting exhaust, won't that be right under the your seat ? You're not going to get cooked in there are you ?   


Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 12:33
like a sauna

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Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 13:02
Looking great Ian. Good luck on 28/3 i hope to be at the Ring!!

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1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added


Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 13:03
Just noticed the exhaust does not have the 'x-pipe' will this make a difference?

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Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 13:04
Toby , I thought you would have put up pics of those nice brakes I made for you

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Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 17:05
Originally posted by Ian Godney Ian Godney wrote:

Toby , I thought you would have put up pics of those nice brakes I made for you


Ian i did they are on the project track car posting. I'll bring it backtothe top for you and yes they are just so gorgeous!

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1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added


Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 17:08
I think the lack of 'X' pipe 'might' be a issue actually, I
seem to remember an article somewhere that
showed that it was very important to the S14.

Also didn't the haward and Scott exhaust that
someone had, have the same issue and was down
30bhp ??


Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 01:23
Originally posted by 215DMX 215DMX wrote:

I think the lack of 'X' pipe 'might' be a issue actually, I
seem to remember an article somewhere that
showed that it was very important to the S14.

Also didn't the haward and Scott exhaust that
someone had, have the same issue and was down
30bhp ??


There's some talk on this athttp://www.e30m3performance.com/
Remember also the Miltek system doesn't have an X pipe.



Posted By: lyndonbuck
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 03:26
Yes but Milltek is single pipe so what would the x-piece do? X-
piece is to balance pressure between the 2 pipes or something
like that


Posted By: Mags
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 03:36

Looks great Ian, good luck with the rallying.

BTW, On the X-pipe question, looking at Jake's pictures on S14.net I see the DTM exhaust has a kind of elongated X-pipe where it runs as a single pipe next to the gearbox. I hope it doesn't affect your perfomance Ian?

Mags



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'95 BMW 540i Touring
'02 Suzuki SV650S


Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 04:00

Talking to the guy last week who made my exhaust , I sent him loads of pics of all the manifolds and systems I have seen on the internet and he reckons that they have the cross over pipe fitted because the primaries are too short , and they have the cross overs to compensate for this , as he has made my primaries longer and equal lengths he says it wont need one , this guy is now retired and makes exhasts as a hobby , he used to make them for F1 and loads of other race cars , he has made a few exhausts for me in the past , so I'll have to see if he's right on this one , if not I can always fit one in later, I need to fit a lambda sensor in anyway.

 

Cheers Ian



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Posted By: 2002SportEvo
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 04:00
Nice looking exhaust - who made it for you ??

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Posted By: Mags
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 05:34
Originally posted by Ian Godney Ian Godney wrote:

Talking to the guy last week who made my exhaust , I sent him loads of pics of all the manifolds and systems I have seen on the internet and he reckons that they have the cross over pipe fitted because the primaries are too short , and they have the cross overs to compensate for this , as he has made my primaries longer and equal lengths he says it wont need one , this guy is now retired and makes exhasts as a hobby , he used to make them for F1 and loads of other race cars , he has made a few exhausts for me in the past , so I'll have to see if he's right on this one , if not I can always fit one in later, I need to fit a lambda sensor in anyway.

 

Cheers Ian

Cool, keep us up to date!!



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'72 VW Camper
'95 BMW 540i Touring
'02 Suzuki SV650S


Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 06:01

A guy from aberwrist-watch , West wales



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Posted By: Jonners
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 06:58
anyone know if side exhausts are legal on road cars???


Posted By: lyndonbuck
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 07:07
Yes, some Westfields/Caterhams have them as they are so low,
they pass MOTs OK but do tend to be a bit loud for road use


Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 07:23
I am looking forward to see the exhaust on the car as I can't figure where you "hide" the rear box height wise?
I can see where you'r coming from with the back axles issue, that takes a lot of ground clearance away. But that box between the axles will bottom out on bumps as well ?!?
My center section is scraping every time down my sloped drive.

BTW I am having tears in my eyes imaging what you are going to do with that car. Hope it performs well!

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Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 08:17

I dont have the fuel tank underneath , I have had an alloy tank made to go in the boot

 

So the back box fits where the tank was  , the middle box is under the prop in the middle of the car , I will put some heat shielding on top of that one



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Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 08:20
I think the ruling on exhausts is that is has to pass halfway down the car before exiting , and it cant be out further than the body ,

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Posted By: 215DMX
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 09:05
Brian wrote
"There's some talk on this
athttp://www.e30m3performance.com/
Remember also the Miltek system doesn't have an X
pipe. "

...but it does have a "Y" pipe which pretty much does
the same thing, something to do with reflected
pulses


Posted By: gary
Date Posted: 10-February-2005 at 14:08
What rally are you doing?

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Posted By: Higgim
Date Posted: 11-February-2005 at 07:02

Very impressed with what you are doing Ian.  It will great to see an M3 doing the rounds.  Will you be taking it in the forest ??!

I navigate an Escort Cossie which is off the road at the moment due to catastrphic head gascket failure!  We will be back in the spring though!

Here's a pic of the car on last summer's Prom Stages on The Wirral. (Nice Tarmac event).  Our car is nowhere near as good nick as yours though!

 

 



Posted By: Rags
Date Posted: 11-February-2005 at 14:58

Looking good.

The only i dont like is the gold rims! sorry

 

But, what do I know?!

As said, the attention to detail is fantastic!

Almost makes it sad to let it go rallying!



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Posted By: Alan F
Date Posted: 11-February-2005 at 16:55
An M3 rally car should have gold wheels, back in the late 1980's Prodrive ran cars for the likes of Ari Vatanen with gold wheels. Also on the BTCC cars of Sytner and co.



Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 03:57

No this car is tarmac only , it aint going anywhere near a gravel road  I am doing Caerwent in South Wales as my first event in it (as long as its finished ) , then will be doing Eppynt in mid wales , and over to Ireland in September, I'm not going to do a championship in it this year , just going to do some good events and have some fun.

 

I photo shopped the car with gold and white wheels , it just lookes so much nicer with gold , and its my car so I can put whatever I want on it , so , ner ner ner ner ner !!



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Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 08:56

Ian - make sure and keep us informed about coming over to Ireland in september, we could have a meet in you honour



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Posted By: kevin
Date Posted: 12-February-2005 at 12:16
It's looking very good Ian, can wait to hear how you get on with it at the first event.

BTW I like the gold wheels


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'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
’95 E34 M5
’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)


Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 20-February-2005 at 07:05

Been doing a few more bits on the car the front and rear calipers are on now

Fronts

Although they are 325mm they look a little lost behind the wheels , I did want to fit bigger discs but the calipers wouldn't take one , and as I wanted to keep the prodrive calipers , tough !

 

The rears are standard discs grooved , with the rear Prodrive Subaru WRC calipers , the calipers were originally fitted to a vented disc so I have skimmed the calipers to make them narrower to suit the solid disc

The hydraulic handbrake is now fitted to the handbrake lever , I have kept the standard handbrake as the strutineers on the rallies are quite strict on this

As I have gone RHD the pedal box was giving a few headaches , I tried to make an Escort Mk 2 one fit as they are readily available , but was too much hassle , so have decided to fit a 3 pedal one from Tilton , it will be bolted to an alluminium plate which will be bolted to the floor , it will have a series of holes in the plate so the pedals can be moved back and forth to suit other drivers , I can then fit the seat back as far as I can taking into account the gearstick , I still need to reach that , I can space the steering wheel back to suit , that way I can get the centre of gravity back so it will take the fast jumps better without nose diving ,

I have had my 2:5 crank delivered on friday , with the shells it was £528 inc Vat , the blocks gone off for a bore , I sent the rods and pistons off with the block otherwise I would have included pics ,

The heads off to Lesters monday for the porting , I'm hoping to have all the engine bits back by next week to start putting it together . and this will top off the engine bay

I have ordered my seats , have gone for Recaro's now , the person who was supposed to be selling me his WRC Prodrive seats is dragging his heels so I cant wait any more , got the TRS 6 point 3 belts coming this week also , still trying to get it ready for this rally on the 29th March !



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Posted By: Jake
Date Posted: 20-February-2005 at 09:01

WOW Ian, I am very very impressed with your work and attention to detail. That kind of workmanship is more rare than it should be. Well done mate, I hope I get to see it in person some day.

Jake



Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 20-February-2005 at 10:22
Ian updated pics look superb and it's coming along. If your off around the Gaydon meet your goind to have to bring the car along for us to see it in the flesh.



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1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added


Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 20-February-2005 at 12:58

It just gets better and better



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Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 05-March-2005 at 13:35

Been a bit busier with the car this week , put in the fuel lines and brakes lines

Fitted a false floor on the drivers side to fit the floor mounted pedal box to , and fitted the pipework

Had the block back from being re-bored , so gave it a lick of paint

Ready for these beauties

Also got my clocks this week so will have to have some alloy sheets laser cut to fit in the dash

Got my Samco hose kit , I am trying to get a few more sets for the 4 others who was interested in the group buy , as I have a man on the inside , he's going to see what he can do

even got a free key ring and hat !

You could say I'm as happy as Charles and Camilla



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Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 05-March-2005 at 13:54
Excellant

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Posted By: Phil-C
Date Posted: 05-March-2005 at 13:55
hmmm, something tells me you're taking this rally car preperation quite seriously...particularly the Group N steering wheel!

I'm looking forward to seeing some photos of the finished article. I suspect it's going to be quite something.



Posted By: JC , e30 m3
Date Posted: 05-March-2005 at 13:58
fantastic project! I have been party to building works touring cars that weren't put together as well as this baby!
Good luck


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78 911 SC
93 MK1 MX-5
98 Ford Focus


Posted By: andyclient
Date Posted: 05-March-2005 at 15:32

Outstanding quality, Looking forward to seeing the finished product

Andy



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88 E30 M3 Sadly Gone
93 E36 325 TD Gone but still going
87 E30 Hartge 325 (gone but not forgotten)


Posted By: Rob L
Date Posted: 05-March-2005 at 15:41
All of these fantastic pics drool drool drool. What a fantastic job you are
doing there Ian - superb workmanship, be a shame to take it rallying and
get it all dirty, not!


Posted By: DAWIEM3
Date Posted: 06-March-2005 at 03:14

 

Hi Ian,

Those rods look wicked. Whats the weight on them and what power are you looking to get out of the engine.

Did the diff flanges arrive ??? and good luck for the rally.

Cheers,

Dave.



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E30 M3 Track Car
S14 2.0L 2002 in progress
E30 C2 2.7 Alpina
E36 M3 3.2 EVO


Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 06-March-2005 at 04:19

Hi Dave

 

Yes got the flanges and they are in cheers for that , I'll send you a few quid for a drink , the flanges that were fitted in my diff were 5 series ones so Nigel Moseley thought , I will have to look into this to see if bigger shafts snd outer CV's can be used , it will make it stronger , I dont know what the rods weigh , and there fitted now so cant do it , I am looking for 300+bhp

 

Phil - No thats on there so I dont get my MOMO suede one dirty yet

 

Thanks for the kind words , it's actually the first car I've built , all the others I've bought , I just believe that if a jobs worth doing its worth doing right , people were looking at me stupid the attention I put into getting all the clips straight and level  - I need to get out more...

 

Robbie - Where are you based , I'm coming over a week wednsday , will be in Dublin overnight then driving down to Cork for the West Cork rally , were staying in Clonakilty (sp) will be celebrating the rally , St Patricks day and Wales winning the Grand slam  were playing you that weekend but over here , but I'm over there , er if that makes sense



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Posted By: M3Nally
Date Posted: 06-March-2005 at 05:17
Superb attention to detail, but that is whats makes it stand out.

I too would love to see it


Posted By: Adrian H
Date Posted: 06-March-2005 at 06:10

Ian,

What can I say but, AWESOME !!!!! I done a similar project with a road E30 M3 about six years ago and just wished I had documented it with photo's like you have done. Please keep them coming.

Are those rods, Pauter's (they look like it) ? If so, to answers Dave's question, they weigh approx 585 grams.

Adrian 



Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 06-March-2005 at 08:57

Yes the rods are Pauter , I got the rods and pistons from the states , they put down that they had modded my rods and pistons so there was only a small fee showing on the customs docs , with the strong £ they cost me £850 delivered for both !!

They are very good quality



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Posted By: Robbie Bradford
Date Posted: 06-March-2005 at 11:57
Originally posted by Ian Godney Ian Godney wrote:

Robbie - Where are you based , I'm coming over a week wednsday , will be in Dublin overnight then driving down to Cork for the West Cork rally , were staying in Clonakilty (sp) will be celebrating the rally , St Patricks day and Wales winning the Grand slam  were playing you that weekend but over here , but I'm over there , er if that makes sense

Hey Ian,

I live in Co.Laois, you'll pass by a town called Portlaoise on your way to Cork from Dublin, i live about 7 miles from there. I'll try and arrange a couple of us to meet up with you somewhere on the way to Cork or when you're on the way back to Dublin. How long are you stating in Ireland for?

Grand slam or not i'm sure we'll find something to celebrate lol  

By the way what are you gonna be driving?



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Posted By: Torch Str8 6
Date Posted: 06-March-2005 at 12:13

are u sure the side exit zorst is legal?

my boss runs an escort cosworth and had our mechanic make a side exit exhaust for it and it was awesome spitting flames on boost etc but after the first rally of the season he was disqualified and ordered to remove it before the next stage

not sure wot group he was in, possibly grp A i think or N

but all that asside the project looks awe inspiring



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Posted By: Coasting
Date Posted: 06-March-2005 at 12:58

Looks superb.  I love the new digital display in particular.

Once again, my ignorance is only demonstrated by my complete lack of ability to do anything like this myself!

 



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Posted By: Grahame_Vincent
Date Posted: 06-March-2005 at 15:21
Looking good Ian!

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2004 E46 325Ci Sport Coupe, Silver Grey with Black Leather and M Sports Pack II.
Used to own:-
1995 E38 730i V8, Black, 18" Fox RS3's, Custom Tint Glass, with Silver Leather
1985 E30 316 Black
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Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 06-March-2005 at 15:30
Ian it's turning into an awesome machine and when the iarbox is on it's gonna sound awesome as well.

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1987 E30 M3 with turbo being added


Posted By: lancelotII
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 03:55
Ian, quick question. I notice you have the bias adjuster in there, the tilton pedal box also has multiple m/c's. would you not adjust the bias f/r via the pedal box rather than through the bias valve ?


Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 03:58

yes the bulk of the adjustment will be done through the pedal box , I put the AP one in next to the seat for fine adjustments so I can get the braking ballance perfect , as I'm also using 4 pots on the back the pedal box might not give me enough adjustment



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Posted By: Mike 90 M3
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 07:17

Originally posted by lancelotII lancelotII wrote:

Ian, quick question. I notice you have the bias adjuster in there, the tilton pedal box also has multiple m/c's. would you not adjust the bias f/r via the pedal box rather than through the bias valve ?

Surely the point of a bias valve is to allow adjustment of the balance whilst on the move. Not easy to do on the pedals!



Posted By: lancelotII
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 07:41
...remote adjuster.......


Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 07:57
yes got a remote adjuster that connects to the pedal box and will be fitted to the dash to adjust on the move

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Posted By: lancelotII
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 09:12
I love that little loop on the throttle pedal to allow you to pull the throttle shut, I assume in the event of cable/spring failure.


Posted By: Houlbt
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 09:30
excellent stuff... All said and done I think you should have budgeted a little more for the steering wheel though.

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Posted By: Mike 90 M3
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 09:48

Originally posted by lancelotII lancelotII wrote:

...remote adjuster.......

I see now!!



Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 11:01
ian car looks fantastic just hope mine turns out as well, nearly bought this shell off nigel but missed out glad to see it went to a good home love the pedal box and tank have you used glass for the sides or lexon ?


Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 11:53
I used glass so it will stay nice , have used plastic ones in the past , so called un-scratchable and they end up looking crap , these are a bit heavier but you cant have it all

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Posted By: Ian Godney
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 11:58
as no one likes my 'GpN' steering wheel , I've bought this GpA item

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Posted By: v8m3
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 13:11
if you are interested in the spare shell still make me an offer as im short on space


Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 19-August-2005 at 17:38
How come this thread came to a grinding halt. Did I miss something ?


Posted By: M3DTM
Date Posted: 20-August-2005 at 03:34

Wow, what a nice car!

Please more updates, pictures and movies!!!

John




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