318iS Info
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Topic: 318iS Info
Posted By: Porsche911r101
Subject: 318iS Info
Date Posted: 27-January-2005 at 16:52
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Hi, Hey im 18 and i have a yrs ncb. I drive (provisionally, on 2nd test soon) a 306 1.4 8v, and im 19 in July. Im looking at 318iS' but have a few questions? 1. How roomy r they inside for the driver ( i get cramp just going to plymouth, which is just 23 miles away). 2. Because they r 330 kg heavier than my 306, but have 140 hp and my 306 is 75.... will they be noticablly faster, slower or about the same ? 3. What insurance grp r they ? NUD wouldnt gimme a quote FC...... but they r only 1.8 (or 1.9) in some cases....... so cant be THAT bad can they ? 4. are they six cylinders? are the 320i's six cylinders ? is it worth getting a 320i other the 318iS... and is there an s version of the 320i ? 5. what are both models like for tuning, on the 1.8 or 1.9 especially... what hp and torque would i c with a full scorpion exhaust system, k&n kit and chip ? 6. Can u make these cars loud with an exhaust..... but not so they drone on the motorway ? 7. whats the average mileage for a P reg now ? should i avoid cars with other 100 000 miles ? thanks alot! J |
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Posted By: kbannon
Date Posted: 27-January-2005 at 17:41
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1. are you talking about an E30 or E36? Anyway, both are comfortable in my opinion! ------------- Current: 2009 E60 520d "Sport" tractor Previous: 1989 E30 320i SE 1997 E39 523i 2003 E39 525i Sport Individual |
Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 27-January-2005 at 17:55
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I prefer the E36 to the E30 for long journeys.
Going from York to Fort William, I had to stop to stretch my legs when driving the E30, as I used to get cramp. In my E36 I have no problem so far with cramp, 600 odd miles+ at a time and no twitches. Only stopped for petrol and a kip. Both are cramped in the back seat area if you and passenger are tall, so only a 2+2 in this respect. Both were automatics btw. E30 320i, E36 318ti. Welcome to the forum btw.  ------------- V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate J Reg Saab 900i 16v '63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe R reg Honda PC50 moped.. No BMW as yet... |
Posted By: Porsche911r101
Date Posted: 27-January-2005 at 18:03
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cheers for the welcome! its the e36 im looking at!!!! do they come with leather, and air con? the 318iS ? and styling wise id want a m3 kit, scorpion DTM exhaust (old skool hehe) and im not sure about rims, maybe deep dish ones or the m3 evo ones :D thats all it needs really styling wise!!! anyone have pics of 318iS ??? the only thing i like more bout the 320 is the six cylinder sound! but maybe with an exhaust and induction kit the 318iS would sound beefy too ????? cheers, J |
Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 27-January-2005 at 18:12
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Leather is an option as far as I know, sport seats with the front ajustment. Air con is an option on most models, not sure if it was standard, I doubt it.
The engines are ok, my compact has the 318 M42 engine and I've no complaints as yet with it (140 odd bhp), it's pretty nippy, but then again mine will be slightly more compared to a sallon as its lighter. Have a look through past posts, there are loads of pics around. (do a search for 318is for example, it might bring something up) ------------- V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate J Reg Saab 900i 16v '63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe R reg Honda PC50 moped.. No BMW as yet... |
Posted By: Pete330
Date Posted: 27-January-2005 at 18:53
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around 98 on you may get half leather sport seat and better spec
p reg more than likely got standard seat and no kit
average 10,000 miles per annum,but dont ask that Q on here as they will just say the more miles on it the better LOL
my 1st car was a 93 318is coupe and i loved it dont pay more than £5 for a mint low milage FBMWSH 318IS (1.8) 1.9 Then a wee bit more ------------- Previous: E36 318is coupe, E36 323i coupe, E30 316 saloon, E30 318 saloon, E46 330ci Sport Conv E92 325d M Sport(3.0),With Loads of gadgets Current: 116i Sport F20 |
Posted By: Ciaran
Date Posted: 28-January-2005 at 03:41
 My 318iS Sport with M3 alloys. It's a 1997 so has the M44 1.9 engine. I think they are group 12/13. Good luck in your search. |
Posted By: Stone-IslandV8
Date Posted: 28-January-2005 at 11:57
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Over the years I've had 3 318iS coups-all have Mtech suspension and some had the Mtech bodykit.
Photos of my last one are at my site, click on the M3 link in my sig then look for the 318 photos-should have before and after photos plus with and without piperX induction kit. ------------- Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
Posted By: MIKE 318IS
Date Posted: 28-January-2005 at 12:43
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e36 insurance group 13
heres mine
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Posted By: Porsche911r101
Date Posted: 28-January-2005 at 16:54
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thanks alot!!! whats the 0-60 and top speed time of these cars..... ive seen the stats on parkers and it claims 110, but it claims my mates fiesta 1.6 si is 110 also and hes had it off the clock....... what r they like up hills ? do u have to change into 3rd to get up steep hills like i do at the moment ? cheers, J! |
Posted By: MIKE 318IS
Date Posted: 28-January-2005 at 17:00
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0-60 is about 10 sec 132 top speed i can get up telegraph hill in 5th gear doing 100 all the way up having to brake for the corner at the top ------------- |
Posted By: Porsche911r101
Date Posted: 28-January-2005 at 17:52
| is the 132mph the max the engine will go to.... or the max the gearing will go to.... ie if i tuned the engine, would the gearing not allow me to go faster..... just get there quicker ? |
Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 31-January-2005 at 04:37
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You might get a bit more top speed out of it but you would have to move the peak power further up the rev range. It doesn't matter if you have 140bhp or 540bhp, if it's at the same RPM you won't go any faster with the same gearing. If you did tune it up you could always change the diff for one of a 328 which will be higher geared. BTW just because your mates Fiesta goes off the speedo doesn't mean it's going that fast. First of all speedos tend to read positive especailly at higher speeds, so it's probably reading at least 10% over. Secondly Ford speedos are notoriously innacurate at higher speeds. A mate of mine had an escort 1.3 that was a knacker and it would read 120mph even though it was obvious we weren't even going over 100. ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Porsche911r101 wrote:Posted By: jay1
Date Posted: 05-February-2005 at 07:02
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hi, don't mean to hi-jack but I too am looking to buy a 318. I was hoping someone can offer hints and tips at what to look out for when buying one. i.e what major parts should have been replaced at specific intervals, what common faults to look out for etc etc etc. Many thanks jay |
Posted By: Doug318is
Date Posted: 07-February-2005 at 10:04
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If you are looking at an early M42 engine, make sure the timing case profile gasket has been changed. BMW used a cheap gasket during manufacture and they WILL fail, no ifs or buts. The gasket its self is only a couple of quid but it is located under the head gasket so the head and timing gear have to come off to replace.
Expect to pay upwards of £350 to get this done. There was also a recall for the steering column knuckle. If this has not been done then any BMW dealer will do this free of charge. Don't let this scare you though.I have had mine for 4 years and it has been a great car. PS it is insurance group 15. |
Posted By: jay1
Date Posted: 07-February-2005 at 10:34
| ok, help! 'e30' 'e36' 'e42'......... could someone please explain to me what this mean? i'm after a 318 is coupe probably round a '93 '94 as insurance isnt very nice to me at the moment! lol thanks |
Posted By: Doug318is
Date Posted: 07-February-2005 at 11:04
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BMW used model codes eg E30, E36 instead of Mark 2, Mark 3 etc.
A 93 or 94 model would be an E36 and would have a 1.8 litre 16v engine (M42). Insurance isn't too bad. I'm 28 with full protected no claims and pay less than £400 fully comp. |
Posted By: jay1
Date Posted: 07-February-2005 at 11:29
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im 17................... if you add two zeros on the end of my age you will have my quote! I just couldn't bear driving a fiesta or the like! plus i'm 6ft 2 and enjoy the roomier cars! And seeing as everyone one is dead set that new drivers are going to crash soon after they pass their test, i'd rather have a more solid car! |
Posted By: Doug318is
Date Posted: 07-February-2005 at 11:33
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I'm afraid you'll have to bite the bullet mate.
Either pay £1700 per year on a £2500 car or buy a Micra. Either way, dont crash! Seriously though my mate had a Pug 306 XS when he was having insurance nightmares. Quite quick, handles fantastic and only group 5 insurance. |
Posted By: MIKE 318IS
Date Posted: 07-February-2005 at 12:57
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i had that problem only cost me £250 but did all the work myself with help from my old man ------------- |
Posted By: jay1
Date Posted: 07-February-2005 at 18:24
howcome it cost £250?!
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Posted By: andystone
Date Posted: 07-February-2005 at 20:07
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i just love my 318is. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/andystone/home027.jpg - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/andystone/home027.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/andystone/home017.jpg - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/andystone/home017.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/andystone/hella2.jpg - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/andystone/hella2.jpg
any opportunity to sjow off a few pics! ------------- vrrroom vrrroommmm! chug chug vrrroom vrrroommm! If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made of meat? |
Posted By: Doug318is
Date Posted: 08-February-2005 at 04:35
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£250! did you use gold plated gaskets?
I got mine done by a mate who works for a BMW garage, just over £100 for parts including timing chain tensioner new anti freeze etc and £200 to him and his mate for fitting it. £300 in total and two guys spent a day working on it. |
Posted By: jay1
Date Posted: 08-February-2005 at 09:44
| are all 1.8 coupe engines twin cam 16v 140 bhp? |
Posted By: Doug318is
Date Posted: 08-February-2005 at 10:57
| In 1996 they changed from a 1.8 (M42) to a 1.9 (M44) both 16v 140bhp. |
Posted By: Peter Fenwick
Date Posted: 08-February-2005 at 11:47
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No only the 318iS. You can get a 318 coupe with the 125bhp (I think) engine ------------- Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel. |
Posted By: Doug318is
Date Posted: 08-February-2005 at 11:51
| I think that was badged as a 316, but I am not 100% |
Posted By: jay1
Date Posted: 08-February-2005 at 12:28
| any idea on performance spec between the two? |
Posted By: MIKE 318IS
Date Posted: 08-February-2005 at 12:45
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that the price for all the gaskets, chain tensioner , oil filter coolant and nuts and bolts etc also changed the water pump and thermostat here a pic of the ******
your mate must get good discount ------------- |
Posted By: Stone-IslandV8
Date Posted: 08-February-2005 at 15:58
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I didnt think they did a 316 coup after 1995 apart from the 316 compact. Could be wrong.
I've had both the 1.8 and 1.9 versions. Both felt almost identical on the road performance-wise but the power delivery was different. The 1.9 felt smoother and more equal across the rev range whereas the 1.8 needed a few more revs but felt more urgent at upper end. ------------- Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea Past; E39 540T/E46 328CI/ E39 535/ E39 520/ E36 M3/ E36 318iS jet black Mtech/ E46 320d/ E36 318iS diamond black/ E36 318iS blue Mtech kit |
Posted By: Doug318is
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 04:19
He gets stuff at cost 
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Posted By: jay1
Date Posted: 09-February-2005 at 11:48
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nothing a remap wouldnt sort( or at least help). Right? |
Posted By: M318LBT
Date Posted: 22-February-2005 at 08:12
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well just to give the post starter some idea what to pay for a can i speak from my recent experience of buying one 1995 M 318iS Montreal Blue, Silver Leather, colour coded bumpers, side sills, mirrors, electric sunroof, no A/C, FSH most BMW, 56,000 miles 2 owners. £4,300 i got the guy to drop from £4,750 i'm just waiting for the private plate to come off then it's mine, this car doesn't even look like it's been driven, the leather is in new condition. ------------- 
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Posted By: M318LBT
Date Posted: 22-February-2005 at 08:15
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o and the pictures, http://cream.srv2.com/%7Edigital6/modules.php?name=Profiles&file=thumbnails&album=1 - Gallery the one without the spoiler is the one i bought the other day and the one with the spoiler is my other car i've had for 2 years. -------------
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Posted By: AndyS
Date Posted: 22-February-2005 at 17:24
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In answer to the earlier question, all E30 318is were 136bhp and all E36 318is (both 1.8 & 1.9) were 140bhp. Compared to the 6 cylinder 2 litre (150bhp) they are a bargain, performance, buying and running cost wise. However, don't make the mistake of trying to tune them, it's just not worth it financially. You'll only get 15-20 bhp extra (if you're lucky) plus a good kick in the knackers from your insurers. Save your money and your ncb (not to mention the resale value of the car) & run a std car for a year or until you can afford the extra insurance on a 323 or 325 (+30bhp & +52bhp respectively). Trust me, it makes sense - I've been there & paid the premium! Also, a BMW318is standing still is way cooler than a Fiesta flat-out. Am I wrong? ML318LBT ! Your mother looks great! If I was 20 years younger . . .
------------- AndyS Live each day as if it's your last - one day it will be. http://www.photostick.co.uk/view-933_BaurSig1.jpg" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: M318LBT
Date Posted: 23-February-2005 at 11:20
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agreed a BMW commands respect, there is just something about them, not even Mercs have the same feel. and yeah don't mess about with a 318iS there hard tuned by BMW so your not really in a position to do anything to it, since they spent a lot of man hours making it run like it does. i'm waiting a lil while then i'm gettin a 328i or a M3, totally cool cars. (quote) M318LBT ! Your mother looks great! If I was 20 years younger. if your talking about my sig, that would be my girlfriend, not my mum :) her name is Catherine. -------------
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Posted By: sigibbons
Date Posted: 26-February-2005 at 18:32
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I too am looking to move up from a 1.4 16v corsa sport to a 318is e36 when i turn 18 in a few months. In performance the corsa is pretty much the same 0-60 but will the car feel a whole lot different power wise. Also ive heard some nice bmw's with ac schnitzer exhausts (prob 6 cylinder) they sounded gorgeous would putting a decent full system on a 318is sound decent? Another thing is alot of people on this site are into usinf superchips and plug in chips that are not mappable? In the vauxhall world we only use unichips really for the mapping capability so is this not reccomended for the 318? Thank, si |
Posted By: Porsche911r101
Date Posted: 07-March-2005 at 17:08
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looks like u got a cracking deal on that blue bmw mate!!! think im gonna stay with my car for a bit till i can afford to get a better 328i or something! |