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Topic: Interesting Project?
Posted By: shoestring7
Subject: Interesting Project?
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 07:54

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=9837&item=4518931733&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category =9837&item=4518931733&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

I bet the seller has an unreasonalbe price expectation though..

SS7




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Posted By: UweM3
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 08:03
this will probably be a good example how low the value of these type of conversion is. (and how dear it is do!)

Imagine what you could do with 14k to a S14.....

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Posted By: J7 VNK
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 08:11

well at £4500 with reserve not met!!    he's spent a fortune!! 

I think if you were to do that you might as well start off with a RHD sport instead of killing an M3, 

1) keeps the cost down

2) keeps the cost down

 



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Posted By: PJSM3
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 09:15
1990 car but on a 'K' plate? That seems a bit odd.


Posted By: mansfa
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 09:37
Shame that he's done it to an M3, but imagine how quick it would be!


Posted By: J7 VNK
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 09:58

Originally posted by PJSM3 PJSM3 wrote:

1990 car but on a 'K' plate? That seems a bit odd.

Also registered in 1999    (which it could have been (re-registered!!))

Think he's either telling porkies or made a mistake!! said he's owned it since 1990!!!   i don't think so!!  ilegal plate if that's the case.

Probably owned since 1999, is a 1990 model but was made later, and he imported it in 1999 and thus registered it then!

 



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Posted By: grant w
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 10:24
nick wright used to own a e30 m3 with a K plate , he'll shed some light on the subject ..

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Posted By: PJSM3
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 10:34
It's quite possible to have a 1990 car on a K plate if late registered, e.g, dealer kept it on show pending late sale and registration. In this instance though the seller says he's had it since 1990 therefore why wasn't it registered? Maybe he put it immediately into storage? More likely however that some dates have been put down incorrectly in the advert.


Posted By: J7 VNK
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 11:21

According to DVLA you can't make a car appear newer than it is!!  you can put any plate upto and including that year on there!  but not a later one!  that's how I always wonder why a dealer is allowed to get away with selling a 2 year old car on a current plate!!

I've seen E36's with V plates!!



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1999 528iA Sport Pack,Aspen Silver,17" MTech's.
1994 525i Sport, Avus Blue,SOLD (BMWCC Member)
1999 323i SE E46, Black, man, Sports Leather. http://www.geocities.com/avusbmw -
My Cars

"BMW's are for life, not just for Christmas"


Posted By: Praktisk
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 11:43

I think they (DVLA) mean you cant make a car appear newer than it is after its been registered   as far as im aware, correct me if Im wrong.....you could have bought an M3 in 1995, never registered it, stored it in an airtight garage somewhere (like some have - currently selling for £60k) and register as a 54 plate next time round.

Very odd I know.



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Posted By: Nostrils
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 11:55
Some M3's were on K plates. Altwood Slough had 1 many years ago when I was fascinated by the Z1 - It ended ARD and I think I have seen it since on a track somewhere. Also, Independent of Aldermaston has one in Calypso Red when they were originally in Wimbledon and when I bought mine from them, the same car had returned by that last owner and part-ex'd against another one!

If I could find a minter K plate I would buy it!

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Posted By: PJSM3
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 12:02
What with all this over production of modern cars there are thousands sitting around waiting to be sold. Your 'new' car may have been sitting in a compound somewhere maybe for more than a year. I recall there was some fuss about this on Watch Dog or the like a few years back. Some 'new' cars (italian?) were being sold at dealers with rust already appearing !


Posted By: Praktisk
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 12:06

Absolutely, so thats why when people order new cars and they arent fussed about options n the like, they can get some good deals.

Wonder how many people i.e your average joe who knows nothing about cars and just uses it for going to the shop / the alotment every now and again fall for this trick.



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Posted By: PJSM3
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 12:09

Originally posted by Nostrils Nostrils wrote:

Some M3's were on K plates. Altwood Slough had 1 many years ago when I was fascinated by the Z1 - It ended ARD and I think I have seen it since on a track somewhere. Also, Independent of Aldermaston has one in Calypso Red when they were originally in Wimbledon and when I bought mine from them, the same car had returned by that last owner and part-ex'd against another one!

If I could find a minter K plate I would buy it!

I saw a black 'K' E30 M3 saloon at Independent when they were in London. It had a scary oxblood leather interior which I thought was only available for U.S. cars. Late registered Z1's are relatively common - Quite a few were put into storage by speculators only to get their fingers eventually burnt. E30 M3 cabrios were of course being produced later than the saloons so quite a few about.



Posted By: PJSM3
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 12:19
Originally posted by Praktisk Praktisk wrote:

Absolutely, so thats why when people order new cars and they arent fussed about options n the like, they can get some good deals.

Wonder how many people i.e your average joe who knows nothing about cars and just uses it for going to the shop / the alotment every now and again fall for this trick.

I think a while back in Car magazine it was mentioned that the Lancia Beta run out special edition 'Hi Fi' (I think) was a result of the unsold compounded cars being accidentally flooded, then dried out and re trimmed before being sold as new............Makes you think. If I was buying new I'd want to check the build date every time.



Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 12:44
There was a K plate for sale @ a Perth BMW dealership last year. £13,500.

If it is a K plate imagine doing this conversion to such a late car. Each to their own.

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Posted By: m3Cecotto
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 13:56

Originally posted by PJSM3 PJSM3 wrote:

I recall there was some fuss about this on Watch Dog or the like a few years back. Some 'new' cars (italian?) were being sold at dealers with rust already appearing !

My brother bought new Fiat X1-9 1500 in 1983  think.  In 1985, he traded it in and bought another one.  The VIN from the 85 car was EARLIER than the 83 car.  The dealer bought it back when he discovered it  6 months later at full price.

See also here:- http://m635.co.uk/DiaryDetail.asp?ArticleID=7 - http://m635.co.uk/DiaryDetail.asp?ArticleID=7

 



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Posted By: Praktisk
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 13:59
6 months free car rental ... not bad.

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Posted By: m3Cecotto
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 14:01

Originally posted by Praktisk Praktisk wrote:

6 months free car rental ... not bad.

Yeah, but it WAS an X1-9 remember BTW anybody ever tried changing the pads in these things??  I think to do the deal, he had to buy a Strada 105TC - superb to drive - rusted in front of your eyes!



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Posted By: Praktisk
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 14:03

Tell me about it, I had to live with a mother who swore by Fiat Pandas for about 18 yrs of my life.

Not quite <spelling>embarressing </spelling> enough being dropped off at the bus stop in when you were 14.

 



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Posted By: BMG M3
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 14:10
As long as it's not been registered anywhere before, then I believe you could have a E30 M3 on any plate .K L M N .....

I'm sure I read somewhere ,that the only problem with this, is that the car would be classed as a new car and as such would have to meet any regulations for the year you are registering it for .I.e an E30 M3 wouldn't meet crash regulations, emissions etc etc now, so you couldn't register it now.

The date built means nothing much . How long do you think Ford keep cars parked up before they register them .Built in 2003 doesn't mean it's going to get a 2003 plate in they register it in 2005 .


Posted By: Praktisk
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 14:14

Imagine the predicament BMW would be in, say they had released facelift model and they still had a stockpile of pre-facelift somewhere.

 



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Posted By: m3Cecotto
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 14:33
Originally posted by Praktisk Praktisk wrote:

Imagine the predicament BMW would be in, say they had released facelift model and they still had a stockpile of pre-facelift somewhere.

 

 

These are tarted up and sold as "Limited Editions".



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Posted By: Simon325i sport
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 14:55
There was a 51 reg Evo Sport and a B12 in Total BMW going back a while back, delivery mileage...hefty price tags too!

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Posted By: PikeyM3
Date Posted: 12-January-2005 at 16:10

Thats basically the deal m3cecotto.

I work in a Ford dealership as a Ford Technician but I must admit we don't see many 'old' vehicles being sold as new ones.

Most of the old spec cars get shipped of to be rental vehicles for a while.

Pikey



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Posted By: Mags
Date Posted: 13-January-2005 at 03:48

My tin top M3 is on a J plate, despite being built in Dec '90. It sat in the showroom until it was registered in Sept '91, hence a J when it came to the UK.

I have had a little grief with some insurers, as their computers tell them that a J plate M3 tin top can't exist but only when they say 'computer says no!'

I've not seen the beige leather in this country before, was it an option? Maybe I've not seen enough M3's :o)

Mags



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