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Topic: Speeding ticket HELP!!!
Posted By: johnny318is
Subject: Speeding ticket HELP!!!
Date Posted: 04-March-2003 at 15:07

Guys, I know this isn't a technical subject but I've just got my first speeding ticket. I was caught doing 88 MPH on the M6. Has anyone got any tips or info on making it easier to bear. I know I'll have to plead guilty because the prosecution notice says it is supported by photographic evidence. Has anyone been in this situation, any advice appreciated.

 



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John

Plymouth UK

96 E34 540i Individual
98 E39 523i SE
01 Renaultsport Clio 172



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Posted By: Webdunk
Date Posted: 04-March-2003 at 15:17

3pts + fine. Grin and bear it.

You could try asking to see the photograph as there have been cases where the picture has either been inconclusive or of another vehicle.



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Posted By: Bayerische76
Date Posted: 04-March-2003 at 15:21

 You will just have to get your hands slapped  and take the  three points

I got six points on my licence all in one week i drive a 328 also invest in a laser detector.



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Tom


Posted By: T15 MAF
Date Posted: 04-March-2003 at 22:08
six points in one week try 10 points in one month 6 points in the same place & thats all driving a frontera i now own a 2.8 z3 not for long i doubt though.


Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 05-March-2003 at 14:14

It is always worth asking for the piccy, the south wales b*****ds gave me 3 points for 35 in a 30.I have a good laser detector now, had it since I was nicked, its a good one, but gradually getting more and more useless as plod switches to inductivally sensed (truvelo) camera's, and real time camera's, as both of these types dont emit anything....you cant detect it.

The real problem now isnt plod, I wasnt actually nicked by them, its the civvy b*****ds in the vans, the ticket you get through has the name of the force concerned, but its just money raising jobsworths that are largely to blame.

There are some good websites that show damaged camera's, always good to cheer you up.

You could also move to the west mercia area where I live.........we dont have any camera's....hurrah

But be careful if you drive down this way, all the neigbouring forces do !!

Also worth noting that the crime rate is so low in north wales, and they have so much money to waste, they fly helicopter speed traps !!    

Wonder how much tax payers money that wastes !!!



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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: Alex
Date Posted: 05-March-2003 at 15:20
You could always try driving slower - just a thought

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Alex Shirley


1990 E30 325i


Posted By: Steve W
Date Posted: 05-March-2003 at 18:00
That's no fun though......

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Posted By: johnny318is
Date Posted: 05-March-2003 at 19:57
M5s dont go slow, no matter how hard you try!!

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John

Plymouth UK

96 E34 540i Individual
98 E39 523i SE
01 Renaultsport Clio 172


Posted By: Steve W
Date Posted: 05-March-2003 at 21:56

I got done for 94 mph on the M4 back in November going to the Network Q rally, and I got 3 points and a £60 fine. Very much doubt you'll get any worse.

(I saw the camera with a fair bit of space and let off the throttle to slow down. However it would have been more effective in slowing down if I had disengaged the cruise control at the same time. 



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Posted By: SteveJ
Date Posted: 06-March-2003 at 09:15

I was stopped for 99.28 as I was crossing the border from Scotland to England. Scotland is full of cameras.

3 points and £40, I though I was lucky. I was in a company vectra, I didn't know they went that fast.

 

Steve



Posted By: Joh57
Date Posted: 12-March-2003 at 21:30
There is a topic in the SUN newspaper today reference this very subject - have a read and take your chances.

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Joh57


Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 12-March-2003 at 22:48
I saw that too, wish I'd known, I rang the AA and apparently its true, so I'd try it !!

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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: nrg!
Date Posted: 12-March-2003 at 23:45

Hello all,

Would any of you be able to tell me what the article said? Its just that im in france and wont be back for another 10 days. Or even if anyone could scan it and email me it would be much appreciated.

Andy



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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 13-March-2003 at 22:22

when you get the froms through from plod, you are required to fill in the drivers details, otherwise you face a fine of up to £2500.

These details are usually your own

By law you cant be made to sign a form, even by plod himself

If you fill in the details so you are not commiting an offence, but dont sign it, they have no choice but to find you not guilty !!!

I'm sure they will change the law soon, but its nice to see the speed camera b*****ds get one in the eye, only wish I'd known when I was done



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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: johnny318is
Date Posted: 14-March-2003 at 19:27

Guys, have sent my form back today (unsigned) I'll keep everyone informed of how it goes.

Fingers crossed!



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John

Plymouth UK

96 E34 540i Individual
98 E39 523i SE
01 Renaultsport Clio 172


Posted By: nrg!
Date Posted: 16-March-2003 at 12:28
good luck!!!

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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 18-March-2003 at 21:14
good luck mate, the test case in the paper had to go to court, but it was then thrown out

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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: nrg!
Date Posted: 18-March-2003 at 23:59

Sorry nigel,

 I meant to say thank you for answering my part in my last one. thanks mate!!!



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Posted By: johnny318is
Date Posted: 26-March-2003 at 23:11

Got a letter from plod today asking if I would like to take advantage of a special offer valid for 28 days. A fixed penalty of 3 points and 60 quid.

Dream on Dibble.



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John

Plymouth UK

96 E34 540i Individual
98 E39 523i SE
01 Renaultsport Clio 172


Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-March-2003 at 23:52
only 20 quid a point !!! what a bargain, good job crimes so low down there they can waste time chasing you!!

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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: nrg!
Date Posted: 01-April-2003 at 07:20

Hmm, intereseting that they have got back to you so fast too!!!!

Andy



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Any M3, good to see!!!!! Techno-Violet E36 3.0!


Posted By: nrg!
Date Posted: 24-April-2003 at 19:20

Hello Johnny318is,

Just thought id update the post and see if there was any news!!!!!

Andy



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Any M3, good to see!!!!! Techno-Violet E36 3.0!


Posted By: johnny318is
Date Posted: 28-April-2003 at 18:34
Still waiting for Cheshire Constabulary to get their act together. Have now invested in a radar detector to (hopefully) avoid any further incidents. One thing that has come to light is the time on the NIP, it doesn't fit in with what I was doing that day. I dropped my wife off 10 mins before the stated time some 11 miles away. It's all town traffic, no speeding here, so I reckon plods clock must have been wrong. No way of proving this of course. Last time up  north I recreated the scenario at the same time of day and it took me 23 mins to get to where I was allegedly caught. It's an M5 but it doesn't fly, your honour!

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John

Plymouth UK

96 E34 540i Individual
98 E39 523i SE
01 Renaultsport Clio 172


Posted By: Mike Fishwick
Date Posted: 02-May-2003 at 20:00
the only action you can take is to aslk the plod to confirm that the equipment had been calibrated and was being used in accordance withte manufacturer's instructions - it's amazing how many time this works!  Evn the plod have other things to do than acrry out what seem to be meaningless tasks...

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Mike


Posted By: therealmccoy
Date Posted: 08-May-2003 at 15:42
Anymore news mate???  It's really good to hear someone sticking two fingers up at Blair's speed tax!!  They'd be better off checking speeds outside schools, I wonder how many women in 4x4's they would catch going above 30?????

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Posted By: MancRover
Date Posted: 27-May-2003 at 14:12

a similar story from the BBC Sport website.....

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/3047293.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/3047293.stm



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Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the
other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.


Posted By: johnny318is
Date Posted: 28-May-2003 at 11:35

Quick update, still nothing from the highly organised boys in blue but With all the high profile publicity about unsigned NIPs, I presume they are snowed under with useless pieces of paper. Found a good website for such matters, try http://www.safespeed.org.uk/unsigned.html">www.safespeed.org.uk/unsigned.html

 



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John

Plymouth UK

96 E34 540i Individual
98 E39 523i SE
01 Renaultsport Clio 172


Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 28-May-2003 at 18:59
How about the ambulance driver in the news lately, will keep tabs on that.

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Posted By: Nigel
Date Posted: 28-May-2003 at 22:08

In the recent past I watched a tv program, 999 or police camera action, or something similar.

The whole program was devoted to the met transporting a kidney from an airport ( I think ), to a hospital in the center of london, where some poor sod was waiting to have it put in.

The two cars had roadblocks, used blues and two's, and broke every regulation, as indeed they should in those circumstances.

They made it, the op was done, and at the end of the program they interviewed the lady who had had the operation, obviously some months later.

She was fine, and very humbled at everyones efforts.

I know it isnt the met who have nicked this poor paramedic, but if one lot can be glorified on a tv prog, why do the lincolnshire cretins in blue think an ambulance driver on an empty motorway in the middle of the night, doing exactly the same thing as the met boys did in the middle of the day, should be done and sacked ?

I hope the cretin behind this decision gets the boot, or better still is hurt one day and suffers because the paramedics are too frightened to speed.



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Best Wishes

Nigel



Posted By: therealmccoy
Date Posted: 03-June-2003 at 23:04

I agree, I was totally disgusted to read of that poor paramedic!  Why is is Jack Straw's driver got away scott free doing 103mph, but some poor, overworked, underpaid paramedic is made to suffer?

The Met seem to have something that very few other forces have, common sense!  Have the Police forces now got so much "red tape" that they are unable to use a bit of common?  I'm not sure how he was caught, but I can't believe that an Ambulance would actually be stopped for speeding?

What's next? Mobile mechanics being stopped for carying "offensive weapons"?  Electricians being accused of "going equipped"??  They'll pull bus drivers over for "curb crawling" soon!



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Posted By: Rhys
Date Posted: 04-June-2003 at 18:37
I work with a mate, we're plasterers in the building trade. He got stopped once and was questioned by mr plod why he was carrying a stanley knife in the back of his van. Seams to me that the constabulary can be hard of thinking sometimes. How many times have you seen jam rags put their sirens and lights on just to beat the traffic congestion. One rule for them and lump it for the rest of us.

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J Reg Saab 900i 16v
'63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe
R reg Honda PC50 moped..

No BMW as yet...


Posted By: 215m3
Date Posted: 08-June-2003 at 18:37

I recently got nicked on the A68 and if you like you're photo taken by mr Gatso take a visit. Every straight has a camera. Long queue behind a 40 ft'er, doing 40mph, as he should be. On the first straight available had to wait until past Gatso and made my move. Sped past in passat TDi estate, pulled in and let my speed gradually slow down and next thing see the lovely blue lights flashing in my mirror. Done for 76 with vascar, should have said where were you last week when i was doing over 100 mph in my e30 M3.....waited for their response and said it was at Knockhill, take a spin.

Anyway my point is should i have backed suddenly after overtaking the 40 ft'er to reduce my speed to 60 thus causing the truck to break heavy or crawl past @ 60mph leaving myself and any possible oncoming car in danger or sit behing the 40 ft'er for the next 30 miles and building up road rage. Can't win anyway i look at it. No questions of why i happened to be travelling at that speed, just needed to get thier quota for the day.They seem to have their common sense taken away on their entry training to traffic.

 



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Posted By: rutter
Date Posted: 16-June-2003 at 21:28

Dont want to seam like a kill joy but I am in favor of traffic calming especially in built up areas how many times do we all see flowers straped to lamp posts were someone has been killed often by a pissed up kid in a stollen car

Ask any Police officer or paramedic its not a good place to be at the scene of a fatel raod accident trust me Ive been there.



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Jim Rutledge


Posted By: therealmccoy
Date Posted: 16-June-2003 at 22:09

Rutter,

No-one here condones speeding when it is not safe, or inapropriate I.E. In built-up areas, outside schools or on housing estates.  What we ask for is a bit of common sense. In my opinion every residential street on an estate, and outside schools should have their speed limits lowered to 20mph, but to be pulled like 215M3 is totally ridiculos!  Overtaking is safer with more power, you are able to get passed an obstruction when it is safe leaving yourself less vunerable to other road users.

The fact of the matter is, speeding is used as another government stealth tax!  There is not one person that has never broke the speed limit on occasions, but only when it was safe to do so. 

But how can you stop joy riders from speeding?  What are speed bumps or gatso's to someone in a stolen car?

Please don't get me wrong, I have every sympathy for these people that are knocked down by some pratt in a car who was drunk or just careless.  But shorely the problem is better addressed by all sides, cars, bikes, pedestrians and cyclists?

I do not mean to offend anyone who reads this, and may not agree.  This is just my humble opinion and I do not mean any harm to anyone, and I appologise if I do cause upset to anyone.

Thanks,

James

 



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