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daddy cool
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-October-2003 Location: Sussex Status: Offline Points: 691 |
Topic: Hello Posted: 14-December-2003 at 21:38 |
it would come down to wether u could time it up correctly or not ! the easy way to find out would be to fone a dealer and ask what the difference is on the pulleys ! if they r the same it should work !!?? if u can fit the 24 valve timing belt/chain whatever it uses !! |
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Sohlman
Really Senior Member II Coupe Chairman Joined: 19-August-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 1259 |
Posted: 14-December-2003 at 21:28 |
I would not know that one, as it all depends on compression ratio's extra. A good specialist would be able to tell you what is or is not possible
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falkster
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 12-August-2003 Location: Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 825 |
Posted: 14-December-2003 at 12:01 |
So couldnt you just put the 24 valve head on the 325? Ok maybe not that simple but surely would be easier than taking the whole engine out. |
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Sohlman
Really Senior Member II Coupe Chairman Joined: 19-August-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 1259 |
Posted: 13-December-2003 at 18:12 |
Just to clear this one up the E30 and e34 both share the M20 small six engine, but all E30 320's and 325's have a 12 valve head. As for e34's early 520's and 525's had the 12 valve head and 170 bhp and later cars post G/H had the 24 valve 192 bhp engine which was the same engine as the e36 320 and 325 models. Hope this clears this one up, so in other words a chip will not get you 20 extra BHP, but you can always fit a later engine and this will do the job, however with much more work.
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 13-December-2003 at 17:51 |
Den My 12 valve M20 engine is listed as 192 bhp, whereas the same engine in the 3 series is 170 bhp. There may be more to it, but I've often wondered about the difference, and if it is just something thats plug in, with the amount of E34s in scrapyards, it would be a cheap way to get 22 bhp. |
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den. norton
Newbie Joined: 14-May-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 32 |
Posted: 13-December-2003 at 17:40 |
I think the 525 you mention is the 24 valve engine, not the 12 valve thats fitted in the e30. The e36 uses the 24 valve engine, it has 190 brake horse.
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 13-December-2003 at 16:50 |
Hello Chaps Just a quick question on the subject of getting more power from a 325i 325i = 170 bhp 525i = 192 bhp Is the difference just a chip? If so would a 325i owner just be able to get the 5 series chip from a scrapyard and get 22 bhp for very little money? |
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YODI 325
Newbie Joined: 10-December-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 13-December-2003 at 16:10 |
Cheers mate, wait till you see it finished
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dbanbery
Senior Member II David S Banbery [L/20973] Joined: 05-August-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 235 |
Posted: 13-December-2003 at 15:54 |
that looks proper bo! ive got a lot of time for fords.....
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YODI 325
Newbie Joined: 10-December-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 12-December-2003 at 22:34 |
Hi daddy cool Ill put pics up of my car in the next few days
Cheers, Yodi Edited by YODI 325 |
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daddy cool
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-October-2003 Location: Sussex Status: Offline Points: 691 |
Posted: 12-December-2003 at 21:54 |
yodi thought i recocnised the name from the rs forums ! glad to see another rs owner enthusiast on here with a beemer . to change the subject slightly have u been on the passion ford forums yet ? |
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YODI 325
Newbie Joined: 10-December-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 12-December-2003 at 19:30 |
Allo again :D you can see a few pics of my car and other on my site www.rsyod.com I havent added pics for ages as the guy doing my site has vanished Ill let you know how I egt on with the filter and give an honest opinion.
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Madrab
Really Senior Member II Joined: 21-November-2003 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 569 |
Posted: 12-December-2003 at 08:48 |
Ooer mate, the highest BHP we had was the RS2000, was overbored to a 2.15 running a 50% NO2 system, it peaked at about 300BHP, but there was extensive work done to the chassis, and backend to deliver that to the wheels through a MT75 square cut box. Could spin the backend in 3rd at 90, that was fun I'll tell you, fairly gave the Porche's a scare, funny seeing a snotty nosed chap in his 911 turbo eat his hat when an L reg MK1 Escort blows his wheels off!!! beep beep Take it your going down the 5 link back axle road with slipper springs? Have fun with that one. Well done in getting a MK1 shell that is good enough too!! Not easy to get now. Hope the Induction kit work is fruitful Yodi Rob |
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1990 E3o 325i Touring and she's definately a she! Pain in the ass sometimes but goes like a bunny :oD
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YODI 325
Newbie Joined: 10-December-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 12-December-2003 at 08:38 |
Thanks Paul, the #other' guy wouldnt be Jayson would it? Yodi |
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paul325i
Really Senior Member II Joined: 23-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 666 |
Posted: 12-December-2003 at 04:01 |
lol no that is another individual that i will not comment on matey there is always plenty of advice or comments on the quality of Ant's chips on www.e30zone.co.uk forum. I belive quite a few people on this forum have them fitted to, me being one of them. |
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YODI 325
Newbie Joined: 10-December-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 11-December-2003 at 18:44 |
Cheers Rob, My car will have 330-350 bhp, 2wd cossie lump turbod with greens and about 26/27 psi running the t5 borg warner box :)
Cheers, Yodi |
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Madrab
Really Senior Member II Joined: 21-November-2003 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 569 |
Posted: 11-December-2003 at 11:03 |
Just to add my wee bit to this induction kit issue. I have a Ram air inducton kit and a Blue Peter stylee ally boxed heatshield. I have 2 pipes feeding the box with one directly fitted to the cone filter, it has an inverted cone in the middle of the filter that the RAM pipe fits into. This, as Paul has said, moved the torque power band about 500rpm up the scale but a cam change reversed this move and brought it back down to about the 2800rpm mark, slightly earlier than the standard. This has given me approx 10 - 15bhp. The next option for me will be a 3 piece exhaust manifold and freeflow stainless system and an ECU change, should raise it over the 200bhp mark if properly set up on a rolling road. I also use an FSE Boost Valve set to 3.5bar and it gives a much cleaner initial take off and mid range acceleration and doesn't suffer from the pressure drop that the standard regulator can cause when you floor the pedal though I'm sure that this is enhanced by the CAM as well. Good to see another MK1 enthusiast M8 We used to build one offs with the old MK1's. We had an original RS BDA1800, a mad mental RS2000 with No2 and toyed with a 4 wheel drive conversion!!! That was fun I'll tell you!! Are you going to use the RS500 lump in your MK1 or will it just be the standard cossie? Loads of work to make the car handle 200 - 220BHP if it's a standard chassis!! Even more if it's 450 - 500bhp best of luck M8. Rob Edited by Madrab |
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1990 E3o 325i Touring and she's definately a she! Pain in the ass sometimes but goes like a bunny :oD
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YODI 325
Newbie Joined: 10-December-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 11-December-2003 at 00:13 |
So its not him that sells the 'evo' chips on ebay?
Cheers, Yodi |
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paul325i
Really Senior Member II Joined: 23-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 666 |
Posted: 10-December-2003 at 23:14 |
His name is Ant mate, i'm sure ihe will be more than happy to help you, out. Don't confuse his chips with the ones seen on ebay. |
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YODI 325
Newbie Joined: 10-December-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 10-December-2003 at 18:46 |
Some usefull info there, cheers
Basically he says he fitted an air filter with a proper heatchield and it made it better :D |
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