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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-November-2005 at 18:24

Top Gear is DEFINATELY non-scripted.  I have a friend who has been on numerous occasions because of contacts he has and he assures me it's all off the cuff and 'as it appears' stuff.

Incidentally...I believe he has indeed got the Ford GT back too.  The M5 is his daily drive....



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-November-2005 at 19:01

Originally posted by AndyS AndyS wrote:

Sounds like a case of the 8-series all over again.

Mostly agree with you, the 8 was eventually a sales failure when the recession hit, but at least it did a have real waiting list in the beginning!

..."While the tests were still in progress, the BMW 850i was presented to the public in the beginning of September 1989 on the IAA in Frankfurt/Main, Germany - with stunning success. 5000 orders have been placed within the eight days of the motor show alone, before the car was even ready for production, which started in the beginning of February 1990 in Dingolfing (14 days later as planned). If you had ordered a car back then you would have to wait three years for it to be delivered. "   e31.net

How much do you reckon the M6 will be worth in a year?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-November-2005 at 02:22

top of the range BMW coupes either sell on the back of real/perceived sporting prowess, or on bling/luxury.

Successful BMW coupes have done better on the former than the latter; e.g.

 E9 -racing CSLs assured its reputation;

 E24-started out more show than go, but touring car wins (635 with M30 engine) plus M-car gave the model a sporty lift.

E31 -bling/luxury out and out

new 6er; no racing = no street cred?

BMW coupes have always been more expensive than any comparable saloons; M6 vs M5 isn't much different in percentage terms from what has gone before (although you can buy a VW golf on the difference...).

If the M6 were demonstrably much faster than the M5, it wouldn't be an issue; as it is, its only a bit lighter, some of the gadgets are a bit different, and thats it. Round a race track there won't be a big differential between them. Not £20k worth, anyway...

I think they might get away with +£10K over the M5 with this model, and that a genuinely much lighter and much faster version (say with 200kgs less, 600bhp and race wins under its belt)  might command a £20K premium.

The V10 engine is nice enough, but lack of F1 wins, plus an upcoming F1 regulation change (back to V8s) take the shine off it big time.

To make matters worse, the older V8 engine can be tuned for the road (eg supercharged Alpina) to give the same power, but with a fatter torque curve. And it is lighter.  

my two pence worth....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-November-2005 at 10:25

I agree Brucey.

With an M5 starting at £63k the M6 at £70-73k would have been much more realistic..

In terms of the earlier question as to how much a year old M6 will be worth, well early forecasts are saying they're unlikely to dip below £68k.  It probably is a case of all the money going on the day you pick it up. 



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