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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-April-2005 at 06:59
Well all I know is my car felt smoother and more responsive on Optimax than on 95ron petrol. It suffered with a hesitation issue that almost went after running optimax, but returned when using a lower octane fuel!
When I was in France, their super grade petrol made a bigger difference to the way the car drove, and it was 'super'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-April-2005 at 08:07
Peter, I'd agree with what you're saying about octane ratings. A car like the chevette was designed to run on four star leaded petrol and needs the timing backed off a couple of degrees to run happily on unleaded 95 RON. I hadn't done this but had experienced no problems except for a little detonation under load. I now use a lead additive for the valve seats, but a tank of optimax is higher octane and is what the engine is designed to use so any power increase(relative term in a chevette) is probably down to the timing again being right for the fuel rather than the wonder benefits of optimax. Apparently with a tank of optimax and the right additive it is possible to make up to 106 RON fuel - might give that a go! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-April-2005 at 09:50
Originally posted by pma1ums pma1ums wrote:

Originally posted by brybusa brybusa wrote:

Well, if your car is not standard, itll probably help detonation (the main reason for running a higher octane fuel)and maybe,just maybe release an extra BHP or two...certainly not enough to "feel" from the drivers seat

As per my post, we are discussing road cars/engines.

As you know, any race bike (or car) engine is far from standard, even under "production" rules..Blue prints/raised compresion being just 2 reasons that such an engine would benefit/make the most of an advanced fuel

The Kwak may need a service I suggest, not even sure if Super Unleaded was about in 1983(?) when they were launched?

Mine certainly didnt run on s/u!...Wish I still had it, in a1 condition there worth good money now...

 

you are correct   it aids the detination process

the "feel" factor    is based on the ecu/injectors being programmed to run on 98 plus fuels ..hence if less ron fuels are used the flat spots in the rev range are effected ..and very noticable in the cars  pick up .

some of the jap imports that are coming through are hit and miss with performance ..because some of the ecu  have been changed by there previos owners ..[dont you just love the mad as hatter japs ] most of the serious cars that i drive that come through from jap land really strugle to tick over if they have had too much overtunning done to them...and give it asdas own brand fuel .and they stall alot at lights etc etc

optimax   is shells excellent marketing plan ..it says all cars will have a better life  if its used ... i doubt that .....

i find it intresting the way the german fuel market commands an 100%ron fuel ..is it because there is more exotica  out there porsche/etc etc

the kwak turbo is on its last legs  ..it been abused by me for years now ...and being on an 84 plate  ..its showing its age  ...and i get fed up of shelling out for top end rebuilts ..and new garrets  when ever the thing crys   for them ...[often ]

i think mint ones are going for about 2 to 3 k arnt they ?? i havent seen one in a trader or the like for ages

 

best get the car re-mapped to take advantage of that Optimax??!

The ZX ran a Hitachi(or however you spell it) turbo as standard...You been tweaking that as well?!

yep, a good example is worth over 3K, the only true performance turbo'd bike of the 80's and I would well imagine the prices for a good one will keep rising.

Early 2 strokes are in the 3-5K bracket now!

rumours are at the mo that theres fuel blockades up and running, so no mater if its a 106RON chevette or Turbo'd ZX, we all better get SOME fuel tonight!

Ill see you all at Tesco's!

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-April-2005 at 11:25
can you see them 'blockading' and creating the problem it did 5 years or so back?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-April-2005 at 11:36

Bit to early to say yet...

I do hope not...however I noticed at the pumps last night a lot of them where "closed " for Unleaded..maybe they where late for a delivery..maybe its b'cos of this "action"

can anyone re-map a 535 to run on Olive Oil?!

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-April-2005 at 11:48
Originally posted by brybusa brybusa wrote:

The ZX ran a Hitachi(or however you spell it) turbo as standard...You been tweaking that as well?!

yep, a good example is worth over 3K, the only true performance turbo'd bike of the 80's and I would well imagine the prices for a good one will keep rising.

Early 2 strokes are in the 3-5K bracket now!

rumours are at the mo that theres fuel blockades up and running, so no mater if its a 106RON chevette or Turbo'd ZX, we all better get SOME fuel tonight!

Ill see you all at Tesco's!

my hitachi unit died after the 2 nd rebuild [impellers disintegrated]and finding another proved fairly dificult at the time ...the garret t3 will fit if you machine make a whole new conecting system [diffrent bores] and as so  many diffrent feeds  it becomes to bulky to have the ally valance on and so the belly pan has to stay off too ...but garrets are easy to come buy and about £!50 cheaper to rebuild  ..if i hadnt have been in the engineering trade  i wouldnt have bothered ...tooooo much hassle at the time .

are they going for that much????3k plus  ..you bang right the only 80 turbo bike to actually work ...it must have been a fad for the manufactures at the time  ..i mean why buy the 750 turbo .when you could have gone for the gpz 900 .that was on par for performance

were did you get the info on   the fuel strikes???

i carnt go to tescos    ..got caught doing a drive off  ..lol   only joking

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-April-2005 at 12:25
Originally posted by brybusa brybusa wrote:

can anyone re-map a 535 to run on Olive Oil?!

                                           http://www.geocities.com/vegoilcar/

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-April-2005 at 16:14

I never used supermarket fuels and was running on Shell regular unleaded, which currently retails for around 84p per litre where I live. For some strange reason the Shell stations in my neck of the woods are around 4-5p a litre less than Esso, BP or Texaco, and the same price as supermarket fuels.

I live in North Wirral opposite Liverpool, and all the refineries are close by in Ellesmere Port. There have been 'stirrings' around the Stanlow refinery by protestors but nothing big has kicked off round here yet. I heard that there's now a greater demand for diesel due to the greater number of diesel cars in the UK, forcing diesel prices up a bit and upsetting farmers and the haulage industry-hence the present small protests.

I read somewhere that, as a product of the fractional distillation of crude oil, diesel accounts for 40% and petrol 60% of the distilled lighter fractions, and on the continent diesel cars account for around 40% of new car sales, although the lower fuel consumption of diesel engines would allow this proportion to rise a bit more before hitting saturation and causing demand for diesel to outstrip supply.

Oops, went off at a tangent there.... Anyway, I swapped over from Shell regular unleaded to Shell Optimax on my 1993 E34 540i and didn't notice any difference. I suspect that it may well prevent the build-up of deposits on the back of the inlet valves and in the ports etc but this would only really apply to new vehicles.

If you've got an oldish vehicle but still of modern technology, then it will probably have deposits already present from years of use on 'unclean' fuels. Having decoked engines in the past, it's hard to imagine a solvent in petrol removing baked on deposits that require much elbow grease to scrape off with a hard object-unless the oil companies know something I & BMW don't!

I think it may be wishful thinking to generalise about the effects and, judging from all the different experiences and responses on this subject so far, it looks like a case of one man's meat is another man's poison. It didn't work for me so I went back to the cheaper regular unleaded. I reckon I would have noticed a difference had I been running on supermarket fuel and then used Optimax, but I was already running on Shell regular.

So I guess, to sum up, if you tried it and it worked for you, then keep using it-if you can afford it!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-April-2005 at 17:33

I have just discovered that Tesco have started selling Super Unleaded petrol which has a 99 RON rating.  So I put a full tank in my car and I am definately noticing a difference in the car's overall performance in terms of acceleration and power output. 

You have to appreciate that the octane level in the petrol makes all the difference to how the engine will perform.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-April-2005 at 03:56
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my hitachi unit died after the 2 nd rebuild [impellers disintegrated]and finding another proved fairly dificult at the time ...the garret t3 will fit if you machine make a whole new conecting system [diffrent bores] and as so  many diffrent feeds  it becomes to bulky to have the ally valance on and so the belly pan has to stay off too ...but garrets are easy to come buy and about £!50 cheaper to rebuild  ..if i hadnt have been in the engineering trade  i wouldnt have bothered ...tooooo much hassle at the time .

are they going for that much????3k plus  ..you bang right the only 80 turbo bike to actually work ...it must have been a fad for the manufactures at the time  ..i mean why buy the 750 turbo .when you could have gone for the gpz 900 .that was on par for performance

were did you get the info on   the fuel strikes???

i carnt go to tescos    ..got caught doing a drive off  ..lol   only joking

my hitachi unit died after the 2 nd rebuild [impellers disintegrated]and finding another proved fairly dificult at the time ...the garret t3 will fit if you machine make a whole new conecting system [diffrent bores] and as so  many diffrent feeds  it becomes to bulky to have the ally valance on and so the belly pan has to stay off too ...but garrets are easy to come buy and about £!50 cheaper to rebuild  ..if i hadnt have been in the engineering trade  i wouldnt have bothered ...tooooo much hassle at the time .

are they going for that much????3k plus  ..you bang right the only 80 turbo bike to actually work ...it must have been a fad for the manufactures at the time  ..i mean why buy the 750 turbo .when you could have gone for the gpz 900 .that was on par for performance

were did you get the info on   the fuel strikes???

i carnt go to tescos    ..got caught doing a drive off  ..lol   only joking

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Info fuel strikes

http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=4153

Thanks for the link re the veggie oil!

Off topic i know , when i had my GPz I was told that the turbo of the r5 GT Turbo was a straight replacement...never had it go to so I never found out..

Somewhere at home I have a video of the GPz turbo (small "z" = air cooled) and the GPZ900(capital Z water cooled) flying around a test track on their launch dates,,,thats gotta be worth sumat(?)

 

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-April-2005 at 04:44
Originally posted by brybusa brybusa wrote:

Info fuel strikes

http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=4153

Thanks for the link re the veggie oil!

Off topic i know , when i had my GPz I was told that the turbo of the r5 GT Turbo was a straight replacement...never had it go to so I never found out..

Somewhere at home I have a video of the GPz turbo (small "z" = air cooled) and the GPZ900(capital Z water cooled) flying around a test track on their launch dates,,,thats gotta be worth sumat(?)

 

i was told the same on the garret t3 and t5 spinners would fit from the r5 turbo  ...hence the grief i had in my other post...

that vid has to worth something ...could you do me a copy if i asked nicely ??

ta for the link iam going to check it out   ..i vist the port of immingham alot .conoco and l.o.r    oil refinerys  ..il have to ask a few peaple  in the offices   that should be in the know about these things .

or il just ask the tanker drivers who they should spill the beans on a impending  action .

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-April-2005 at 03:38

Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

What is a Kwak Turbo!!

One of these....Had an awesome reputation in the day and some road tests of the day got them running high 10's qtr miles

Top speed around 150MPH

http://gallery.pipandphil.com/album08/turboright04052003

Note the 19" front wheel!

Ill try and dig the vid out and see if i can copy it...

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-April-2005 at 03:47
Originally posted by brybusa brybusa wrote:

Ill try and dig the vid out and see if i can copy it...

thanks alot     much aprecitated if you could  ...i owe you one ..or if you need any fabrication /welding  doing ....no probs

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