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    Posted: 10-April-2005 at 17:00

anyone bought a used a Beemer only to find out its suffered some appalling bodgered repairs?

don't be shy guys, lets hear your BMW horror stories.

I'll start off with my old 735 Executive I owned from '96 to '01. These cars had the EH box as std.

first time I took it to BMW they told me "you do know its been fitted with a non EH box don't you?". Errr, no says I. What firm of bodger boys would do that to a 735i?

seller forgot to mention this, more fool me for not testing the EH before buying.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-April-2005 at 17:05
...and there you were, wondering why the "S" setting wasn't working....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-April-2005 at 17:11

I got well and truly bodgered, not for the first time, and definitely not the last I'm sure.

Gorillas with spanners are out there waiting to pounce on your BMW guys.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-April-2005 at 17:17
So does this mean I might be running around with an "EH" 'box, but with no rotary switch to trigger it?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-April-2005 at 17:25
Noticed my battery was changed by one garage I won't use any more, unfortunatly it was changed from a good one into a naff one, which is still sat outside from my old car.. dead as a dodo (they must have had a customer who wanted a battery and thought they'd use mine..)
Put a new one in before I gave it away, as I wanted it running ok before being picked up.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-April-2005 at 06:02
Originally posted by Philip Philip wrote:

anyone bought a used a Beemer only to find out its suffered some appalling bodgered repairs?

don't be shy guys,

never bought one ...but sold shed loads of them .

its a dogs world out there
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-April-2005 at 13:08
Its funny this thread popped up, yesterday I was walking through Bath park & parked was a old M5 with the usual cheap Irish plate on & they had spent a bit on the wheels as they had fitted the E39 M5 wheels on it but the exhaust back box was held on by a bent coat hanger pushed through the rear skirt!!!  Lovely!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-April-2005 at 13:36

Shame isnt it, how people get hold of lovely cars and abuse them.

No excuse with the old 5 series, must be one of the cheapest "expensive" cars to own.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-April-2005 at 15:28
Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:

Shame isnt it, how people get hold of lovely cars and abuse them.

No excuse with the old 5 series, must be one of the cheapest "expensive" cars to own.

thats the whole reason to ditch the the 3 as a work car and move to the 5 ...the 5 is totally underated and in some cases unloved and less desriable than the 3...[well in selling on terms] but the 5 series are right bang on inbetween the range

hearts choose 3 s

real peaple choose 5s

strange but true

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-April-2005 at 15:42

hearts choose 3 s

real peaple choose 5s

strange but true

 

[/QUOTE] 3 series for those in the know

               5 series for those who REALLY know

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-April-2005 at 16:11
I bought a e23

But I am now too atachet to the car to let it go


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-April-2005 at 00:16

 I have seen some dreadful, dreadful, dreadful things. On all kinds of car, including BMWs. Perpetrated by people with various shortfalls in the brain and scruple departments.

Bodywork repairs that just make you want to weep when you look closely.

Tools left under the bonnet.

Cars with intergalactic mileages that people are trying to pass off as something else.

Cars with simple faults that the vendor has spent as much time trying to hide as it would have taken to fix. For example I once went to look at a car where the oil pressure warning light never came on. The sender wire had been unplugged. This was clearly deliberate, as the wire had been taped back afterwards. Judging from the oil weeping out, the sender was faulty, and probably showed low pressure at tickover. When inspected carefully, the car had almost certainly travelled about three times further than claimed. The vendor was just a stupid unscrupulous lying thieving git, and sadly there are lots of them about.

I've walked away from more used cars than I care to recall, simply because the vendor couldn't be trusted, although the car concerned might have looked OK. Even so I've made some mistakes.

In many ways I would far rather buy an honest to goodness shed than I would someone else's lash-up. 

And yes, five series mechanicals (especially those with the M30 engine) are very strong and reliable- they really can take a lot of use, and a good E34 is about as cheap now as it is ever likely to be.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-April-2005 at 16:46

Many of the bodges seem perpetrated by those who buy a car who truly cannot afford to run it and will take any shortcut possible.

Shortcuts in maintenance or cheap and nasty parts on something like a later BM will cost somebody dear sooner or later.

I have seen washing up liquid used as brake fluid, saw dust in a diff to keep it quiet, gear oil used in an engine to stop rattles and pressure issues, wheel bearings with no lock pins / cotters .... some real scary stuff perpetrated on brakes ...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-April-2005 at 08:22
My car was maintained for the first sixteen years of it's life meticulously by one old gent, complete specialist history with some terrifying bills for service work. Then two years ago a bloke bought it as a hack, put 40k on the clock, never serviced or looked after her. He then scrapped the car because the oil pressure switch was broken, some dodgy garage told him the head had cracked and the engine was a boat anchor. So picked up a scruffy but very solid E28 for not much money. The legacy of the first owner can still be seen in the overall condition of the car, no rust and great for her age!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-April-2005 at 16:45

I bought my '96 328 sport back in 2001 and was fairly convinced it was a good 'un at the time. It turns out it was good but I could have probably done better for not a lot more cash.

When I came to change the top front suspension mount because I suspected it was loose I found the dreaded white markings. Turned out to be a strut and spring assembly from a 323, purchased no doubt on the cheap from a scrap merchant. Marvellous... At least that explained the vagueness and twitchy behaviour at high speed. Good job I can do this stuff myself.

Actually that's not the most disturbing thing I've discovered on my car. The Nikasil issue (which I kind of ignored before I bought the car - what an idiot) could have proved to be the worst encounter since the BM dealer tried to rip me off only for BM head office to save the day. And as if that wasn't bad enough, when they did change the engine, the work was not even up to a DIY mechanic's standard. This lead to a noise from the gearbox area which they then diagnosed as requiring a new gearbox. Anyway, a new clutch later (fitted properly this time by yours truly) and the noise had disappeared.

Enough of my ramblings. I don't  trust a single garage out there that's all I have left to say...    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-April-2005 at 20:02
Originally posted by dm328sport dm328sport wrote:

Enough of my ramblings. I don't  trust a single garage out there that's all I have left to say...    

i agree to certian extent ....and yes ive seen so many many bad techs out there .but theres a short few that go that extra mile to perform there job correctly and thus allowing some motoring public the fact that they "do" care so pass on the benifits of taking care of the customers car .....but how many abuse the cars as they are in for a service????????

answer ========== an exterme many iam afraid

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20-April-2005 at 11:37

Sorry, completely off topic.

Originally posted by pma1ums pma1ums wrote:

hearts choose 3 s

real peaple choose 5s

I'd wanted an E30 touring for years and when I was seriously looking was very tempted by the E34 touring, mainly because it's big enough to sleep in, I'm 6'-4" and beacause it comes in frugal TD form. I decided on the E30 however because it is lighter and smaller which is much more practical considering the country lanes round here and that every other **** has a wally trolley(endearing term for a 4x4 from my Kiwi uncle). I will treat myself to an M5 touring one day.



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My very first BM I bought 12 years ago-an E30 325i-had a cute bodge. The head must have been taken off previously and, when refitted, had somehow managed to have the small heater water elbow bolted to the rear of the head fitted the wrong way round.

Having just refitted the head, they must have noticed that a) the water elbow was now pointing to the other side of the engine bay and wouldn't mate with the heater inlet hose and, b) to refit the elbow correctly would entail removing the head again.

So they improvised by fitting an additional small hose to the water elbow that doubled back to the heater inlet hose, and joined them up with a nice shiny chrome socket from a socket set and some jubilee clips which were not done up properly.

Of course, when I 'made progress' at 6500rpm, the pressure in the cooling system increased and popped the loose hose off the baby-bottom smooth socket and started spewing coolant everywhere in a cloud of steam.

At the time I was coming home from work with my boss at night and overtaking a Ford Sierra (when did you last see one?) at maximum smoke-literally in the next instant, when flashing dash lights came on and a huge fog bank appeared behind me. Luckily, we were near a Little Chef car park and I did a bodge repair and scrounged some water from a local good samaritan and fortunately there was no damage to either head or gasket.

Laugh? My boss did, as did the Sierra driver-I did gain a spare socket for my toolkit though!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-April-2005 at 09:13
Had a 2002 in a few years back with a complaint of poor brakes. Took it out for a test drive and sure enough, the brakes were truly awful - the car veered heavily to the right - seized calipers I thought - a common enough trait of the '02. Went to take off the nearside wheel - the whole wheel moved up and down excessively in my hands. So I stripped out the hub to find the wheel bearing adjuster nut held in place by a match stick - only it wasn't, the match had broken in two and the nut had fallen off inside the dust cover. the only thing holding the wheel & disc on was the caliper and pads. The weight of the car on the wheel was pushing the pads back into the caliper when the brake pedal was released, and meant the brakes were virtually useless . A new nut, split pin & padset retuned the brakes back to 100%. Imagine what could have happened !!


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