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mysteron35 
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 Topic: Crash helmets
Posted: 24-July-2004 at 20:02 |
This is probably a very stupid question but are motorcycle crash helmets any different than one for a car ? .
The reason I ask is that now I've replaced my damaged M3 with another I'm determined to use this one for the odd track day or maybe a hillclimb or two , the plan is to buy a helmet this wk so any advise will be great ! .
I'll prob spend about £150 maybe more .
Cheers , Steve .
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rr_ww
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 20:32 |
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Yes they are different.
E.G. Bike helmets arent heat resistant iirc. But most trackdays orgsnisers will let you use a bike lid.
On bike lids look for the ACU "GOLD" sticker on the back. means its a good standard. But most important is that it fits you properly. Ask the sales staff for advice.
Oh and buy a £50 helmet if you've got a £50 head if you see what I mean.
Dont buy mail order you MUST try it on first.
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PikeyM3
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 20:40 |
Bike helmets also have ventilation slots in them.
Weight and construction wise I don't think they are any different really.
Pikey
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UweM3
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 20:41 |
 rr_ww wrote:
Oh and buy a £50 helmet if you've got a £50 head if you see what I mean.
Dont buy mail order you MUST try it on first.
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good advice!
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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mysteron35
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 20:47 |
Ok thanks for that , I was worried it was a crap question and I'd be laughed out of town ! .
I know now and so wont pop into a bike shop and buy the first shiny one I see .
Thanks, Steve .
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UweM3
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 21:22 |
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have you considered an open face helmet?
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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mysteron35
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 21:40 |
No I didn't think about that , it would feel less restrictive and maybe lighter .
In my head I pictured a full face ! I suppose its best to try them all on and sit in the car .
I'm looking forward to it as its another step towards track days ! , Is an open face a bit 70's rally driver ? .
Steve .
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m3Cecotto
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 22:24 |
mysteron35 wrote:
I'm looking forward to it as its another step towards track days ! , Is an open face a bit 70's rally driver ? .
Steve .
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And the problem with that is.....................what exactly? I wish I still had my Chevette HS or the Sunbeam Lotus that replaced it. In fact I wish I'd never replaced it with a Sunbeam Lotus in the first place. Nothing wrong with a bit of 70s rally driver look. I might be able to dig you out a Paddy Hopkirk jacket if you get that open face Bell Star helmet.
Re the open/full face debate, my understanding is that closed car = open face. Open car = full face.
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Horsetan
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 22:57 |
I've been blessed with one of these:
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mysteron35
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 23:00 |
Ha ha , I was only joking about 70's ! Ive a soft spot for Mk1 mexico's and owned an rs 3100 only a couple of years ago .
The 70's is my era ! , I'll try an open face if I can and wouldn't rule it out .
Talking of your HS back in the early 90's I owned an ex works firenza with full house blydenstien motor in rally trim ! , I never got it to run properly and sold it on to a drag racer who fitted a V8 , always regreted that .
Steve .
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kevin
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 23:13 |
Horsetan wrote:
I've been blessed with one of these:
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But that will not fit Rory!!!!
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Horsetan
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 23:16 |
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kevin
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 23:18 |
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Back on a serious note...
Buy the best helmet you can afford and please make sure you try them on and only buy the one that fits you just right. The sizes vary between manufacturer and sometimes between style from the same brand.
Edited by kevin
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Kevin
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215m3
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 23:23 |
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I've been looking at helmets as well as i hope to get another M3 for tracking and was looking at the Simpson models. Just need the skills of the stig to match. Can i buy these anywhere as well?
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Horsetan
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 23:29 |
215m3 wrote:
I've been looking at helmets as well as i hope to get another M3 for tracking and was looking at the Simpson models. Just need the skills of the stig to match. Can i buy these anywhere as well? |
Grand Prix Racewear at Chiswick, West London, stock Simpsons. They've got a Website which escapes me at the moment, but a search on Google should bring it up....
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 23:40 |
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Kevin
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Horsetan
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Posted: 24-July-2004 at 23:47 |
Oh, and I forgot to mention that Simpson RX helmets tend to retail for about 350 quid+ in the UK... 
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215m3
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Posted: 25-July-2004 at 12:13 |
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Bit to far for me to travel unfortunately......i stay in Scotland, but thanks anyway
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PikeyM3
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Posted: 25-July-2004 at 12:19 |
I think some Simpson model of helmets are not road legal due to the angular chin design?
I personally wouldn't want to wear an open face helmet in any car, just think what would happen to your jaw and nose when a peice of interior trim hits you hard in the face! 
Pikey
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Badger 540
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Posted: 25-July-2004 at 12:36 |
I have worn a full face Gold Standard helmet in the past for track days with my Clan kit car (head gets a bit close to the roof though !!).
I found it was beneficial to get used to the helmet the day before (I am not a biker, so it's a bit alien wearing several pounds of fibreglass on your head).
You get a few funny looks sitting at the traffic lights with a helmet on, 
but it's worthwhile so that you feel comfortable with it the next day on track.
Andy West Midlands
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