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harvard468
Groupie Joined: 05-August-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 95 |
Posted: 26-September-2004 at 18:04 | |
I'm posting a copy of my recent post on the M-Power Forum which follows my research and nagging of BMW GB supported by Oilman's high quality advice. What is clear though is the diversity of views and myths on the correct oil to use, particularly on M-cars! A trip to the M-Power Forum will demonstrate this!! After much badgering, BMW GB has last week finally clarified the oil issue for the S62 engine thus:- E39 M5 up to and including Feb 2000 production - Castrol TWS 10w-60; From March 2000 production - Castrol SLX 0w-30. I presume the same applies to the Z8 which has the same engine. I don't know what changed in Feb/March 2000 (less rattley Vanos??), because the face lift (angel eyes etc) wasn't until 2001 model year. My M5 has the extended service intervals - 15,000 or more between services, and so needs the Longlife LL-01 oil (SLX or equivalent), wheras the TWS is not a longlife oil and is not recommended to last as long as 15,000 miles. Maybe Feb 2000 and earlier M5s had more frequent service intervals. If any other owners are able to verify this, I would be most interested. Lastly - the Oilman who advises on the General Forum is a mine of common sense about oil as well as a source of competitively priced good quality stuff! I now buy all my oil for my 4 BMWs from him and I am noticing the improvement by moving from Semi- to Fully Synthetic on my older cars. He's worth a visit!! Hope to hear from more members - I'm still a Newbie so learning all the time from the vast amount of experience and knowledge of other club members. All the best. STEPHEN B Edited by harvard468 |
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Stephen B
1990 Z1 1994 E34 540i Touring 1999 E38 740i (Had to go) 2001 E39 M5 |
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oilman
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Posted: 27-September-2004 at 05:02 | |
Thanks Stephen. That's what we're here to do, give honest and correct advice on oils. We are fortunate to have good contacts within Fuchs/Silkolene who "factory fill" most BMW's today therefore they know which oils are the correct ones for each model and this is valuable to us. We're pleased that our sevices are of value to the Club. For price lists, just email me. Cheers Simon
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djfuz
Groupie Joined: 11-December-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 78 |
Posted: 28-September-2004 at 22:21 | |
I still would only use Redline products in my car
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oilman
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Posted: 29-September-2004 at 06:41 | |
Nothing wrong with that, Redline make some very good oils. Your paying through the nose for them though. Cheers Simon. |
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harvard468
Groupie Joined: 05-August-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 95 |
Posted: 29-September-2004 at 09:24 | |
I've never heard of REDLINE!!! Who are they and what do they sell. STEPHEN B |
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Stephen B
1990 Z1 1994 E34 540i Touring 1999 E38 740i (Had to go) 2001 E39 M5 |
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oilman
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Posted: 29-September-2004 at 09:57 | |
Erm, it's American, pretty good for an American Oil (most are not) but expensive and no better than some of the best UK oils. You could buy a lot worse though! Cheers Simon |
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coupesport
Newbie Joined: 29-September-2004 Location: Bury st Edmunds Status: Offline Points: 14 |
Posted: 29-September-2004 at 17:28 | |
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djfuz
Groupie Joined: 11-December-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 78 |
Posted: 29-September-2004 at 17:52 | |
you do not need to pay ££££££ for this redline uk check out there products and yes we can get a discount on any of there products by just being in the bmw carclub pm me if interested oh and I work for a company called Invensys try connecting them with the oil trade lol funny how we are all of a sudden so interested in only uk oil lol @ oilman Edited by djfuz |
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oilman
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Posted: 29-September-2004 at 18:31 | |
I have to confess to being slightly bemused by your comments and attack on me. Perhaps you should read the reasons why I am here, invited by the Club. Perhaps you should read the costs of their products more carefully, just over £10.00 for less than a litre of 5w-30! Come on, who are you kidding. I will not quote prices here but what makes their oil twice as expensive as good UK brands? (import duty perhaps). Whatever, it's not justified I'm afraid. Cheers Simon
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djfuz
Groupie Joined: 11-December-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 78 |
Posted: 29-September-2004 at 20:15 | |
Interesting you thought I was attacking you
I was replying unbiased to STEPHEN B Who asked for more info on redline products I also explained that it is not that expensive Yes I've read every page with interest and know why you are here redline make other products beside oil that would and does help us ppl with older cars or up rated cars its a shame by your comments the way you feel about free trade and are quiet willing to flame another companies products knowing they won't reply, maybe I should give Gavin a ring and get him to discuss this only of course if the club would like another unbiased opinion on a very much underestimated and interesting subject oops forgot to add you are not willing to quote your prices but surprise surprise are willing to quote some one elses very interesting Edited by djfuz |
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ian332isport
Really Senior Member I Joined: 20-September-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 342 |
Posted: 30-September-2004 at 02:21 | |
Perhaps being on first name terms with the owner (or someone else who works there) gives you a bias I don't feel that the Oilman is pushing any particular brand. He's just making recommendations on viscosity etc. He sells a wide range of quality oils at a very good price. Can't we just leave it at that and try to get along. It would be a real shame if we were to drive him away and loose his valuable experience on all things Oil... Ian. |
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djfuz
Groupie Joined: 11-December-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 78 |
Posted: 30-September-2004 at 12:18 | |
well I do buy my oil from him so doh I do know his name the same way I know the name of the guy who works on my car, if I call jaymic I ask for keith If I want anew model I ask for john etc
I agree he only talks about the ones he sells as you can see on his web page opioe oils very good price? how do we know as he does not quote prices, so how can we do a search and compare Edited by djfuz |
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Dergside
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2004 Location: Mid West, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4000 |
Posted: 30-September-2004 at 12:49 | |
DJ Not sure who p1ssed on your shoes, but Oilman is giving his time here to help people. I can't imagine that he makes back on sales to folks from this forum the cost of the time he puts in to it, but if he does manage to build a client base off it and somewhere along the line the volume makes it worthwhile, then more power to him, that's smart business. Most people here are savvy enough to recognize if they are being sold a pup, but given the feedback that I have read through the pages, it doesn't seem that people feel like that. Give the guy a break, if you don't like the advise, then don't read it. If you have the technical knowledge to question it, then do please share it. Everyone will benefit and Oilman will have a chance to respond. |
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djfuz
Groupie Joined: 11-December-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 78 |
Posted: 30-September-2004 at 15:08 | |
yea have to agree with you there D it is bad when some one slats another companies products but even worse when it happens to be a product that is in there line of work but do not sell
biased I like to be open minded and unbiased even if it is a product Invensys do not sell or own |
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SundayJumper
Senior Member II Joined: 03-July-2004 Location: West Berkshire Status: Offline Points: 220 |
Posted: 30-September-2004 at 15:14 | |
Not really, you said "funny how we are all of a sudden so interested in only uk oil lol @ oilman", which sounds to me like a direct dig at him. Duuno if you're new to forums in general, or just this one, but having a go at existing established & respected members isn't normally a way to make yourself popular. Steve. |
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Sundayjumper - now with added 328 Sport
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Dergside
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2004 Location: Mid West, Ireland Status: Offline Points: 4000 |
Posted: 30-September-2004 at 17:22 | |
DJ Like I said, if you have the technical knowledge to pick holes in the advise, share it and everyone will benefit. My reading is that he has consistently supported his opinions and advise with it. In many cases it has resulted in recommending cheaper alternatives to what people may have been using already, but the important bit is that he has explained the reasons why his suggestion may be more appropriate. The man has been a gentleman in his dealings here and is respected for that by all, it seems, except yourself. |
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djfuz
Groupie Joined: 11-December-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 78 |
Posted: 30-September-2004 at 17:46 | |
This is supposed to be a discussion about oil
Oil in general, every manufacturer of oil again I say unbiased After oilman’s original comments about redline products being ok but over priced, would you look further at them or would you give them a miss? if you have ever seen an engine or diff or even gearbox stripped down for inspection that’s been using redline oils then you will know why it is my oil of choice, when it comes to looking after my car be it the engine or even the polish I use for the car money is not always the first factor you have to think about when making a purchase I've never questioned oilman’s quotes from Silkolene's guru ; you can all read for yourselves John Rowland, chief automotive chemist at Fuchs Silkolene link title correction Edited by djfuz |
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harvard468
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Posted: 30-September-2004 at 18:25 | |
DJ, I had no idea Redline existed. This evening I popped into my local Halfords Superstore where you can buy Castrol RS, SLX and Mobil 1 oils which most people seem to use, and couldn't find any Redline oils at all. Most modern BMW's are designed to run on FS 0w-30 Longlife oils (BMW LL-01 approved) such as Castrol SLX, and have extended drain periods - 15,000 miles and more. I believe there are other similar oils around such as Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL which are likely to be as good as the very overpriced Castrol (£12.99 a litre!!!) or better. Certainly this oil grade and specification is the oil of today's cars. Do Redline do a BMW approved longlife (LL-01, 0w-30 oil)? If they don't, only people with older cars are likely use Redine products. STEPHEN B Edited by harvard468 |
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Stephen B
1990 Z1 1994 E34 540i Touring 1999 E38 740i (Had to go) 2001 E39 M5 |
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djfuz
Groupie Joined: 11-December-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 78 |
Posted: 30-September-2004 at 22:29 | |
Manufacturers, oil and warranty
Never break the loop as they say cos if anything goes wrong it’s the first thing they will blame. Which does make a lot of sense as they do allot of research and development with oil manufactures to get there engines running to there optimum and try and increase service intervals I personally change my oil every 3000 miles Companies like demon tweaks sell redline products |
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oilman
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Posted: 01-October-2004 at 04:48 | |
Wrong link, chap. That link is for a Silkolene distributor. You will find the official Silkolene site here; Cheers Simon. |
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