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Paglad 
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Joined: 29-December-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 21 |
 Topic: Handling advise pleasePosted: 22-January-2003 at 20:02 |
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I have a 328i auto coupe and i am getting fedup of the arse end breaking away in corners. I am contemplating putting some bigger wheels on with a bit more width. At the moment it has the standard 15'' alloy wheels. Has anyone got any advise or has done similar? Any other thoughts on how i can improove handling? Cheers!
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Webdunk
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M3 GT Register Joined: 16-October-2002 Location: Central Scotland Status: Offline Points: 5245 |
Posted: 23-January-2003 at 09:04 |
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I changed to 17" alloys wearing 235/40 Yokohama A539 tyres. Found the tail end became much more settled :-) Also find I now get a bit of warning understeer before the tail stops gripping. Much more to my tastes.
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Paglad
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Posted: 23-January-2003 at 22:38 |
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Sounds good so far! Can you tell me if they went straight on without any mods to wheel arches, suspension etc? Does £800 sound about right for 17'' wheels and tyres? Thanks for your help again!
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Webdunk
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Posted: 24-January-2003 at 08:57 |
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Yup. They go straight on with no mods. I paid just shy of £1k for mine - largely due to the A539s. Price for yours sounds OK - what tyres/wheel style you opting for?
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Paglad
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Posted: 24-January-2003 at 13:00 |
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Hi again, I'm opting for 8.0J E46 M3 Replicas with Goodyear F1 235/40/17 tyres to be supplied from Autovogue in Stafford. Total price with all the add ons £970. Their web site is www.autovogue.com I'm looking at a Hamann Rear muffler exhaust from them too. You've got to spend it before the misses does!!! Cheers! |
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Webdunk
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Posted: 24-January-2003 at 14:03 |
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I'm not a big fan of that style on the E36 - I used to have M5 replicas on mine (before the current ACS replicas) which I prefer... but each to their own. Your tyres get a good write-up though so your price looks pretty competitive. Enjoy :-) A word of warning though - the reason I now have the ACS replicas is the snazzy 'smoked chrome' finish of the current M3/M5 replicas started to corrode off after only 3 months (blamed on a faulty batch)! Keep an eye on your wheels and whatever you do - don't use Wonder Wheels! |
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Paglad
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Posted: 24-January-2003 at 23:08 |
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Thanks for the warning! Forgive me for saying this , but i'm on a steep learning curve here, what do ACS wheels look like . Is there a web page etc i can refer to?
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Webdunk
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Posted: 27-January-2003 at 09:45 |
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Check out my pix on http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/car328i.html. You can also just see my old wheels and no more on http://www.newtongrove.demon.co.uk/bmwcc/meets/mar02/mar02.html - the pic at the top right. |
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Paglad
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Posted: 28-January-2003 at 03:46 |
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I do like your latest wheels,i carn't make my mind up now!!!! Cheers mate Paglad |
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Webdunk
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Posted: 28-January-2003 at 08:56 |
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Use http://www.wheelmachine2000.de/index_d.htm to try some different wheels on your car. Some decent wheel/tyre places also have packages like this on site so bide your time and make up your mind - it's a lot of money, so get it right :-)
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b318isp
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Posted: 28-January-2003 at 14:45 |
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Sorry guts to get technical - but to answer the original question... You might NOT want to go with bigger wheels. They will be more prone to hopping on bumps (heavier) and will give less progressive breakaway (due to the smaller side walls). I would suggest staying with the existing rims and go up a size in tyres. Spend your money on best tyre you can afford - something like the Bridgestone Potenza S03's. I am not sure if you have an LSD, but that is always a good upgrade. Finally, you may want to soften the rear suspension or anti-roll bar a little too (or stiffen the front). |
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wizas
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Joined: 30-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1 |
Posted: 30-January-2003 at 17:47 |
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Hi, I was lucky enough to take delivery of a new E36 coupe in August 1998. The car had been fitted with Bridgestone tyres ( I can't remember exactly whci ones). The handling was brilliant. Any tail slide was very controlled and progressive. They were even great in the wet. The next full set of tyres were Pirelli. They were rubbish! Loads of tail slide and useless in the wet. Never again!!! The following set were Michelin. These were very good but not up to the standard set by Bridgestone. Having lost my "company car coupe" I purchased an old E30 318i to keep me on the road. It came fitted with Avon Rain tyres. These were useless. The tail came out all the time. I fitted a set of TSW Razor wheels with Yokohama A539s. Brilliant in the dry but horrific in the wet! It was too easy to lock up all four wheels in the wet! I have sold the E30 and have just bought another 1999 E36 Coupe. I'll let you know how I get on with the tyres! Does any one know what the best tyres are for a Coupe on standard alloys? My thoughts at this time are the Bridgestone's that were originally fitted to my first Coupe. |
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Paglad
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Posted: 31-January-2003 at 14:09 |
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Hi again! Thanks to all of you out there for your advice. I have taken the plunge and fitted 18'' M5 alloy reps with Pirelli P ZERO ROSSO 225/40 ZR 18. What a difference in handling!! That stupid grin is back on my face! Worth every penny. My next upgrade is a Hamann rear muffler being fitted on Wednesday! That sounds great and will be as far as i go i think...........for now Thanks to you all again Cheers! Paglad Remember, spend it before the misses!!
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Webdunk
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Posted: 31-January-2003 at 14:26 |
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Quality choice :-) Can you post some pix for us? (eMail me if you haven't got webspace) |
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Paglad
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Posted: 01-February-2003 at 12:22 |
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Hi Webdunk, Have not got web page so i've e-mailed you with pics Paglad
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Webdunk
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Posted: 01-February-2003 at 14:01 |
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Car looks pretty good to me :-)
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DarrenW
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Joined: 09-December-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 04-February-2003 at 22:47 |
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Paglad, Your new wheels are well smart. I have a 4door E36 M3 with stock wheels shod with Michelin Pilots. I find them to be superb (albeit not cheap). I have also been very surprised how good it handles in the snowy weather. I've had several 6 cylinder E30's in the past and was worried about the extra power in bad weather. The M3 is by far the best handling in snow. (Ice still represents a problem!!).
Darren. |
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M3 Evo soon!
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Joined: 04-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1 |
Posted: 04-February-2003 at 23:20 |
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Hello everybody ive enjoyed reading, in the next few weeks i will be getting my first BMW, its gonna be a M3 evo E36, just one thing ive not had much experience in rear wheel drives ive had mostly 4wheel drives turbo imports, but now want a more refined luxury performance car, i dont mean to sound wimpish but im a bit cautious to how i will find the handling and overstear at high speed corners, roundabouts and the wet, any advise would be nice, or is it plain stupidity me choosing a M3. Thanks nick |
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m3kuk
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Joined: 19-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 267 |
Posted: 08-February-2003 at 23:59 |
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Just take your time and learn to get on with the car.You'll find an evo rolls a lot more in the bends than jap motors,but the grip level is awesome! The LSD helps to keep the back end in line,but you can loop it with too much power in too low a gear. |
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JackUzi
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Joined: 02-March-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1 |
Posted: 02-March-2003 at 15:12 |
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Nice choice Paglad, These wheels were what sold me on the 323 I have just bought.
Have you noticed any rubbing? Mine rub on the rear once in a while. Has to be a serious hollow or dip whilst cornering mind you. I have also noticed the fading effect on the chrome as mentioned earlier in this thread, weird. I suppose they can be re-chromed when they get really bad. Anyone know how much this would cost? Cheers, Glen |
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Thanks for that Webdunk, 
Thanks again for your advise so far!
