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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-November-2009 at 21:20

Its just stupid to jail a man for exceeding an arbituary number.

No need to even ban him, give him 11 points, allow him to continue working, paying tax, supporting whoever, and you'd be safe in the knowledge he'd have to ride like a vicar for the next three years.

Jail for speeding, with no other agrevating factors, is just plain stupid., especially when you see druggies getting their 35th final warning, kiddy fiddlers allowed to walk free etc.

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-November-2009 at 21:00
Originally posted by m3vert m3vert wrote:

Bigian ok the guy in this one did kill someone but this is why he must go to jail http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/160mph-driver-killed-love -of.4790786.jp Just because he did not kill someone this time does not mean he should get away with just a ban! I have no sympathy for him at all if I get done driving stupidly in the M3 I expect the same treatment.

Likewise Bigian if you are stupid enough to drive on the highway I share with my wife and son at those sort of speeds you deserve a few months in jail as well! If you have a vehicle that you want to drive at those speeds take it to a track not a public place

Ricky

If you read my post fully you will see i am in no way defending this guy for the way or excess speed in which he rode at.

That is just unacceptable in this day and age and the amount of traffic that is on the road.

I have held a bike licence and riding bikes for over 20yrs you can't get away with things you could years ago but now you cant chance you life for the Pratt who does not use there mirrors and travelling at excessive speed.

As for the the example you put in it was a car driver and he deserved that.

As for the last point in which i have underlined you dont know me My Life and my licence are very precious to me my licence is my job so i cant go and do something so feking stupid like that and wont.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-November-2009 at 08:29

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Im looking forward to next summer when i either get a hyabussa or blackbird to replace my ageing cbr1000.

Off topic, give me a shout when you're selling it, had one for 3 years, big comfortable sports tourer, would love another.

On topic, ludicrous speed, deserves everything thrown at him, same as anyone else be they biker, car driver or copper just 'testing the car'!

Problem is the direct access system gives yer average joe the opportunity to spend 20 years farting about in a car, then have a mid-life crisis, spend 2 days pootling about on a 125 and 500cc training school knacker, then go out and buy the biggest, f*ck-off-and-die, mental machine his spondoolix will stretch to.

Then, because they've screwed up the courage to shove their Astra GTE past the 100mph mark they think they have the reactions to handle the speed of a superbike. That's what places like Knockhill and East Fortune are for, honing your skills without endagering other people.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-November-2009 at 12:17
Originally posted by jbh325i jbh325i wrote:

Originally posted by Andrew Rolland Andrew Rolland wrote:

Originally posted by Bigian Bigian wrote:

1 wee point if it were a car driver would the punishment have been the same i don't think so.

M3 driver got jailed for doing 156.7 mph on the A90 between Aberdeen and Dundee

Don't think so Ian, they threw the book at that guy on 4 wheels too!

 

If you read that one fully the driver was driving whilst disqualified.. which would have been the main reason he was jailed. he was also only jailed for 5 month and banned for 4 years..

Ah fair enough.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-November-2009 at 11:58
Originally posted by Andrew Rolland Andrew Rolland wrote:

Originally posted by Bigian Bigian wrote:

1 wee point if it were a car driver would the punishment have been the same i don't think so.

M3 driver got jailed for doing 156.7 mph on the A90 between Aberdeen and Dundee

Don't think so Ian, they threw the book at that guy on 4 wheels too!

 

If you read that one fully the driver was driving whilst disqualified.. which would have been the main reason he was jailed. he was also only jailed for 5 month and banned for 4 years..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-November-2009 at 11:04

Yes, this notion of it being a harsh decision because he was a biker is just not true.

I might not agree with all speed limits and in temrs of the vehicle, driver/riders ability and the road surface i'm sure that you could travel at higher speeds witout it necessarily being dangerous, however the problem is other road uses. If your doing 100 mph more than everyone else on the road then you are asking to meet your maker. Not only will people not expect you to be going that fast, they will also not be able to judge how fast you are covering ground.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-November-2009 at 08:28

Originally posted by Bigian Bigian wrote:

1 wee point if it were a car driver would the punishment have been the same i don't think so.

M3 driver got jailed for doing 156.7 mph on the A90 between Aberdeen and Dundee

Don't think so Ian, they threw the book at that guy on 4 wheels too!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-November-2009 at 04:03

Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

If you do 166mph on the road and you get caught you should expect to go to prison. Agree with the decision or not, if I was driving a car at that speed I would get the same treatment.

(unless I was a footballer with a fancy solicitor...)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-November-2009 at 01:09

cmon guys he was doing 166mph in a 60mph zone. Dont try and compare it to a drug dealer etc as it is not the same (I do agree the law is an arse regards them though). Bottom line is he was doing in excess of 100mph ABOVE the speed limit, you cannot defend him at all and he deserves his time in the BarL. Bigian ok the guy in this one did kill someone but this is why he must go to jail http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/160mph-driver-killed-love -of.4790786.jp Just because he did not kill someone this time does not mean he should get away with just a ban! I have no sympathy for him at all if I get done driving stupidly in the M3 I expect the same treatment. Likewise Bigian if you are stupid enough to drive on the highway I share with my wife and son at those sort of speeds you deserve a few months in jail as well! If you have a vehicle that you want to drive at those speeds take it to a track not a public place

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-November-2009 at 20:00

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-October-2009 at 22:29
If you do 166mph on the road and you get caught you should expect to go to prison. Agree with the decision or not, if I was driving a car at that speed I would get the same treatment.

(unless I was a footballer with a fancy solicitor...)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-October-2009 at 20:55

Again another attack on bikers and i hold my hands up at being 1. They guy was being a total TW*T and disregarding any other road users that may have been on road. If the road was clear yes open her up and give a wee blast but not when there are others around.

I do from time to time but the risks are too great these days and you cant take any chances.

A big fine and a ban but not jail when folks ask far is the bike nd he has to explain that will make him look a big enough prat and embarrassment when he gets the bus everywhere.

1 wee point if it were a car driver would the punishment have been the same i don't think so but there has been a prejudice against bikes for many years and will remain so.

Im looking forward to next summer when i either get a hyabussa or blackbird to replace my ageing cbr1000.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-October-2009 at 17:28

This is getting web space on the various forums out here in the UAE, the local boys are shocked at him getting put down!!!

I thought it was a bit heavy (like Tiko said) but his 9 months will end out 4 for good behaviour, he'll need a new haircut by then

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-October-2009 at 16:35

Prison .....he'll be out in about 12 months anyway ... but I see your point .....

Seems there is laws for certain people and seperate ones for the motorists.

 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-October-2009 at 03:55

Originally posted by m3tiko m3tiko wrote:

Fair enough to the 5 year driving ban, however is a 9 month custodial sentence not a bit OTT?? As to the degree of his criminality, a lot more do worse and have their sentences suspended. Sorry but I see this totally injustice....

Lifetime ban would be more appropriate if it were my decision...not prison!!


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Well said that man!

But don't forget the motorist is the modern day anti christ and the cause of all the worlds problems, trouble in the middle east, 3rd world debt you name it, it's our fault.

Real criminals, junkies, drug dealers and pedos etc, they however, can walk the streets safe in the knowledge that there is no justice.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-October-2009 at 23:00
It is an excessive speed and no doubt very dangerous but I've seen t**ts
doing 60mph overtaking in really stupid places who have almost caused
head on crashes, and then done it again a mile or 2 up the road. Its a pity
more of them weren't taken off the road rather than someone having a
one off blast to see what their bike/car can do.

Having been "Done" 15 years ago for 106 mph I get a nosebleed over 90
nowadays. I feel I was made an example of at the time but at least I
didn't end up inside!

If he had caused an accident then yes he should be locked up but as tiko
says a lifetime ban would hurt and there would be no chance of him re
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-October-2009 at 22:39
Fair enough to the 5 year driving ban, however is a 9 month custodial sentence not a bit OTT?? As to the degree of his criminality, a lot more do worse and have their sentences suspended. Sorry but I see this totally injustice....

Lifetime ban would be more appropriate if it were my decision...not prison!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-October-2009 at 19:21
he got done on the Big straight on the A702, I know it
well and am often overtaken there by people who can't spot
the traffic cars parked all over the place and don't read
the papers about how many people get done there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-October-2009 at 11:42
Maybe he had left his straighteners on .....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-October-2009 at 09:40
Originally posted by Andrew Rolland Andrew Rolland wrote:

it would take him a quarter of a mile to stop which is a bit scary.


..or the stopping distance of the artic' he could've ploughed into


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