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Andrew Rolland 
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 Posted: 12-June-2009 at 07:47 |
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I'm not ruling anything out. My performance I don't think is affected and I just cannot convince myself that the noise is just coming from the belt area. It appears to come from all over the engine bay, down ethier side of each bank and from the back. I have something Part #2 screwed to the rear of the inlet manifold with torx screws but it is called a drive unit, aye but for what? I'm thinking it might be something here or here but I'l be b Andrew |
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Posted: 12-June-2009 at 09:37 |
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No listing for a PCV oil separator valve on the E60 but there is a listing under crankcase for this
The first 1 shown is pretty much where the pcv is on the E39 but I'm guessing another culprit. Hope you get it sorted soon. |
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Posted: 12-June-2009 at 12:11 |
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Thanks for that John. That would be right behind where the belts are so it could be blowing a leak and hence the noise from the same area as the belts. Andrew |
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Posted: 12-June-2009 at 20:36 |
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No probs, keep us updated Andrew.
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Posted: 16-June-2009 at 09:49 |
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Limped the car to BMW this morning. Asked if a workshop manager/foreman could look at the car so I could explain the fault while it was still hot. Got a chap out who was plesant and helpful, met him before. Started car, idling like a tractor, bonnet open to hear the noise and the engine then proceeded to cut out. Idrive screen displaying fault message and showing large EML light in instrument cluster. Car has never actually conked out before but was perfect timing to cut out in front of the workshop manager/foreman. He thought that the fault was with the oil separator diaphragm which is the bit bolted to the back of the inlet manifold, which is part #2 in a post of mine above. He expalined that is is essentially the same thing as the PCV item that you mentioned John. He said all the faults would be linked, the EML, the idle and the noise. He said he might need the car for a day or two, presumably to source the replacement part. He would phone me after plugging the car into the machine to check for faults. Will keep you posted Andrew |
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Posted: 16-June-2009 at 13:00 |
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Just had a call from BMW. Workshop foreman said that it wasn't part #2 and that is was parts #13 at fault. These are cylinder head breather valves. BMW said that one was broken. Now I poked about at these when I was under the bonnet. Sometimes they would be blowing out air and sometimes air would be being sucked in. I tried to remove one but it was well clipped in place on the cylinder head cover and I thought that if I were to try and remove it, it would break. I'm not sure what they do appart from regulate pressure inside the cylinder head valve train space but why would you need to do that? They vent to atmoshpere i.e. there is no hose to conenct to them. I had a look on TIS and they do not offer a "task" on how to remove these from the cylinder head covers. I asked if it had thrown up any fault codes and all he could say was that had identified that the engine was running lean. Not sure if it has been plugged into the diagnostic machine or not. I'll get the car back tomorrow, so I have to slum it on the bus home tonight! Andrew |
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Posted: 16-June-2009 at 16:24 |
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....at least hopefully it'll be sorted and slumming on the bus does everyone good once in a while.Congrats
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Posted: 17-June-2009 at 18:43 |
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Wahey All sorted. Now idles smoothly. Turned out it was parts #13. Parts were only �20! Labour was a lot more after some head sratching, diagnostic checks/reset and test drive! Video of smooth engine idle it's not great quality you can hardly hear the engine idle over the wind noise but the noise before was easy to hear.
Picture of engine without covers, runs much noiser without them. You can see the breather for cylinders 5-8 just below centre of the picture partially obscured by the corner of the air filter box.
You can see it easier in this picture on cylinders 1-4 above the oil filler cap. There is a hose coming out from the cylinder head cover at the 3 o'clock position under the valve which then goes into the throttle housing and inlet manifold.
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Posted: 17-June-2009 at 21:25 |
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Posted: 08-September-2010 at 11:11 |
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Hmm........that's wonderful that u have got it back for running again.
Congratulation for that.....  Thanks Regards Nancy Management Workshop |
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I believe that RPM limit while static is to protect the AUTOBOX not the engine. Engine will rev fine till rpm limiter cuts it. High revs on unloaded engines are NO problem.
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Thanks Uwe. I had figured it was something to do with engine or autobox to protect harm. Would be a lot of power going thru a idling autobox at 7000 rpm so limiting it to 5000 rpm would limit the damage. Makes sense. Is your 530i auto and does it have a rev limit when in Park? |
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Just spoke to my "auto man" today. Another thing he mentined to avoid is coasting down a hill in the NEUTRAL position of the Autobox. Something with oil starvation on planetry gears....
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I can't coast in Neutral in my car as I need to be virtually stationary and with the brake pedal pressed to engage D from N. I found that out to my horror in my E39. Had to come to a virtual standstill to put it back into D much to the annoyance of the guy behind me! The oil pump should be still powered when in Neutral as it is the first thing in the transmission between the torque converter and the first set of planetary gears. You need oil to be pumping to engage gears which is why there hasn't been much success with a start stop automatic car! The gearbox needs oil pressure to engage gears. No rotation input = no pump pressure = no gears selected. |
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d if I can figure out where these bits of kit are located.
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