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    Posted: 14-June-2009 at 00:45
Gotta be the 34 all the way. The epitome of BMW. I only have the baby 4 pot 518, but i sit at traffic lights in comfort. The above seems a perfect buy for the gent in question.
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OP,

Is your mate still looking for/interested in an E34 ? I've a 1995 520iSE that I'd be willing to sell basically due to lack of use. It's Orient Blue with full grey leather interior. It's a manual with only 107k miles with FSH (14 recorded services - 11 of them at BMW) and I'm only the second owner from new ! 

NCT'd until 02/11 and 2 months tax left. It is in excellent shape (rust free) with electric windows,mirrors & sunroof as well as a 10 disc CD player all working as new. It has 17" OE BMW 5 spoke softlines as well as the original BBS crossspokes too.....

It's a KE reg too ! PM for more info/pics if you like. 

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No it is a lighter shade of blue.
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Is this the blue you like ?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Andrew Rolland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-May-2009 at 19:43

I saw a really nice mint M plate E34 on my way home this morning.  It was in that sexy blue colour that I remembering seeing on a spanking new E34.  I remember dreaming about it at the time cos it was before I could drive and I wanted to drive a car like that........Never have driven an E34.

The E34 I saw today was de-badged but had the (low spec?) alloy wheels (similar to those on the Senator, just to link back to an earlier post).  You still see a few nice E34's out there.  They are enthusiast owned now I guess cos they are all nice.  The 525i appear to be popular, the majority I see are 525i. I see one 518i around Glasgow but I haven't seen a 530i or a 540 for a long time now.  There are a few tatty E39's now and they are getting into the price range where the chavs then 'chav' them.

I also regularly see an E34 525is but what is the significance of the s in the badge?  I've only heard of E36 318is but never ever heard of an E34 525is, till I saw one in Glasgow recently.

Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:

I'm presently running a very late E34 estate, the 518i 4 pot, it only does 30 - 33 on a run, I used to get 30 out of the two 525's I've owned.

That makes me feel better!  Just shows what leaps and bound have been made in engine efficiency, my E60 gets between 28-34, depending if I'm towing crud to the tip or cruising.

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Ok so the trim quality and build on a compact isn't as good as an E34.

Thing is though the trim quality and build on an E39 isn't as good as an E34 either.

My comments were simply in defense of the 3 series bashing that was going on. The E34 was the last of the really well built BMWs. Anything after fell foul of the need for increased capacity due to ever increasing sales. I mean the 3 series almost sells Mondeo volumes these days.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MBW1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-May-2009 at 11:32
Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

Originally posted by MBW1 MBW1 wrote:

-No! The whole idea of a
quality car is that it can withstand normal daily use. Proper BMW's like the
E34 can take terrible abuse and not break.


E34s break plenty, just go on www.forum.bmw5.co.uk">www.forum.bmw5.co.uk to see.


Normal daily use is not the same as abuse. How do you know that the
previous owner of your car did not thrash the nuts off it? Did it come with
a fully stamped service history?


Unless you got it from new it's a bit daft to condemn a car as unreliable
based on owning one. I'm guessing you got your compact after it had a
few miles on it? Even with proper servicing you can kill an engine/box by
thrashing from cold, bouncing off the limiter and just generally always
driving it very hard.


As for cracking heads, how is that any different from something like
Nikasil which afflicted all BMWs even the 7 series. Also didn't the 518
have the same 4 cylinder engine as the compact? 



I don't think you're quite getting the point. There isn't a car made that
doesn't go wrong.
I've always bought everyday use cars with high mileage and the E34's
have always been fine and feel like they were built to do 200'000 miles.
The Compact doesn't. It's crap. The guy valeting it yesterday afternoon
was laughing at the crappy door trims as he cleaned them. At the front
you can push them in an inch they're so flimsy.

My previous Compact was a 316i on a P plate, a two owner car with
around 80'000. Mechanically it wasn't bad but it had the same trim
maladies. In the end I went and bought a brand new drivers's door trim
because the original was delaminating and kept falling off. I also replaced
all the loose window mechanism rivets with nuts and bolts. Absolute
garbage IMO. I sold it whilst it was still worth something!

No, a Compact didn't use the 1.8 8v engine but the 1.6, similar enough
though and basically a good engine.




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jetsetwilly2000 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-May-2009 at 16:02
Now then now then.

The E34 is dead reliable, there is pretty wide consensus on that.  I can't see the 520 you're looking at but general advice applies - service history is valuable, don't touch anything that doesn't feel really really good, and test drive more than one because all E34s tend to feel more solid than other cars so he'll need to calibrate his bum.

I don't think I can agree at all that a 3 series is like an astra; tho I've never owned either I've driven some of each, and the astra always seemed to me to be near the bottom of the food chain, while a 3 series is up near the top.  But I'd rather have an E34 than an E36 or an E30, or even an E46.


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Originally posted by MBW1 MBW1 wrote:

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No! The whole idea of a quality car is that it can withstand normal
daily use. Proper BMW's like the E34 can take terrible abuse and not
break.

E34s break plenty, just go on www.forum.bmw5.co.uk to see.

Normal daily use is not the same as abuse. How do you know that the previous owner of your car did not thrash the nuts off it? Did it come with a fully stamped service history?

Unless you got it from new it's a bit daft to condemn a car as unreliable based on owning one. I'm guessing you got your compact after it had a few miles on it? Even with proper servicing you can kill an engine/box by thrashing from cold, bouncing off the limiter and just generally always driving it very hard.

As for cracking heads, how is that any different from something like Nikasil which afflicted all BMWs even the 7 series. Also didn't the 518 have the same 4 cylinder engine as the compact? 

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- If the engines fooked after that kind of milage you bought a fooked car.
Nothing to do with BMW I'm afraid.

I see. So why do M42 heads crack so often?

-I also assume you mean 2nd hand gear boxes.

Yes. And why did the original lose 3rd gear syncro at 80k? Plenty of oil
and it didn't give any warning - it just broke.

- If they don't get looked after they won't last no matter how well
engineered they are.

No! The whole idea of a quality car is that it can withstand normal
daily use. Proper BMW's like the E34 can take terrible abuse and not
break. This Compact (like the one before) is falling to bits. I guess
loosening window motor to door frame rivets, a fractured mechanism and
one failed motor are not BMW's fault then?
I'm fairly hard on cars, but they do get mechanically maintained to a
proper standard - could I have done more? Even the diff is whining on
this heap! No oil leaks either.

-Also to compare a compact, the cheapest range BMW did at the time,
with a 5 series is a bit daft isn't it?

Not daft at all. The Compact wore a BMW badge and thus was not a cheap
car to buy when new. It should have been built to a far higher standard, ie
so that the door trims don't come loose and attempt to fall off. It's no
better made than a common or garden Ford!

The E34 warranted a high price tag because it was built to a standard, not
a price. The Compact is just cheap rubbish. In their defence, they don't
seem to rust to bits like E36 saloons can and it drives very well.
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Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:

I test drove some 3 series cars just before I bought my latest E34.

I was very very dissapointed with the 3 series cars I drove, they were just so "nothing" !

A few years ago before I bought my E36 328 I drove an E34 525. Nice car but a totaly different beast to an E36. More comfortable than sporty and at the time just a bit to 'old' for me. The e36 on the other hand was and still is a nice sports saloon with great handling, a great driving position and a fabulous engine.

Chalk and cheese if you ask me.

Oh and the 3 series is far, far beter than an Astra. Trust me, my dad has had 3 and they are horrible. In his previous one the steering wheel felt like it was attached to the wheels via elastic bands. The Focus is a better car but still not as nice as a 3 series to drive  

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Originally posted by MBW1 MBW1 wrote:

Originally posted by agaafear agaafear wrote:

A Nigel, the 3 series is quite a bit better than an
Astra - I would think - and hope!!



Hmmm. I have an E36 Compact which is the biggest load of crap I've ever
owned. The good bits: It doesn't seem to rust. The bad bits: Self destruct
interior, constant problems with the electric windows and the engine
(M42) has already had a major top end rebuild at 100k and looks like ithe
bottom end might not last the month out. Crunches into 5th gear at
anything over 60 mph and this is now it's 2nd gearbox, due a third.......

Quality car my 8rse! Absolute toss and a disgrace to the badge.

The E34 on the other hand was a proper BMW.

If the engines fooked after that kind of milage you bought a fooked car. Nothing to do with BMW I'm afraid.

I also assume you mean 2nd hand gear boxes.

If they don't get looked after they won't last no matter how well engineered they are.

Also to compare a compact, the cheapest range BMW did at the time, with a 5 series is a bit daft isn't it?

 

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To be fair the regular E36 saloon isn't a bad car. The Compact though just
has zero quality. Just really cheap and nasty with the pimply plastic dash
looking like something from a seventies Skoda.
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Originally posted by MBW1 MBW1 wrote:

Originally posted by agaafear agaafear wrote:

A Nigel, the 3 series is quite a bit better than an
Astra - I would think - and hope!!



Hmmm. I have an E36 Compact which is the biggest load of crap I've ever
owned. The good bits: It doesn't seem to rust. The bad bits: Self destruct
interior, constant problems with the electric windows and the engine
(M42) has already had a major top end rebuild at 100k and looks like ithe
bottom end might not last the month out. Crunches into 5th gear at
anything over 60 mph and this is now it's 2nd gearbox, due a third.......

Quality car my 8rse! Absolute toss and a disgrace to the badge.

The E34 on the other hand was a proper BMW.

I test drove some 3 series cars just before I bought my latest E34.

I was very very dissapointed with the 3 series cars I drove, they were just so "nothing" !

 

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Originally posted by agaafear agaafear wrote:

A Nigel, the 3 series is quite a bit better than an
Astra - I would think - and hope!!



Hmmm. I have an E36 Compact which is the biggest load of crap I've ever
owned. The good bits: It doesn't seem to rust. The bad bits: Self destruct
interior, constant problems with the electric windows and the engine
(M42) has already had a major top end rebuild at 100k and looks like ithe
bottom end might not last the month out. Crunches into 5th gear at
anything over 60 mph and this is now it's 2nd gearbox, due a third.......

Quality car my 8rse! Absolute toss and a disgrace to the badge.

The E34 on the other hand was a proper BMW.
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Originally posted by agaafear agaafear wrote:

Off topic gents!

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This is about the e34 not the griffin!

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Originally posted by agaafear agaafear wrote:

Off topic gents!

 

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I've had a few vauxhalls over the years, but since taking
on the e39 a year ago I can honestly say, that even with a
few niggling problems the e39 is amazing in terms of build
quality, this car won best saloon car for a few years
running, mine is a 2001 and I bet feels and sounds better
to drive than loads of brand new cars. Also had a go in my
brothers which is 5 years older and could not tell the
difference. I even doubt that the new BM's are as good as
these cars, but looking forward to finding out.
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Originally posted by thepits thepits wrote:

(p.s. name me a 6pot vauxhall)

From the Cavalier upwards I think you'll find ( I'm not sure if they've made a six pot smaller than that), mostly 2.5's and 3 litres what what I remember.

The Senator was probably the best that I've driven, very like an E34 except for build quality.

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