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    Posted: 30-November-2003 at 16:20

Hi.

I'm looking to purchase my first M3. I have located a 1998 M3 with 74000 miles on the clock.

I'm pretty new to buying 2nd hand cars, let alone performance cars. Can anyone give me some advice on the questions I should be asking? Also, are there any physical aspects of the car I should pay particular attention to?

With a car of this mileage, what parts should I expect to have to replace within the first year or two of ownership and what sort of prices would I be looking at paying? Any help would be gratefully received!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2003 at 18:22

Hey there darren,

By the age of the car your looking for i take it your after a m3 evo version (3.2lt) They have Vanos problems with them and a servey on another forum site had results of 40% of these cars having this problem. You can tell if its gone by reving the car up for 3k and letting it settle. It sounds like a marble in a tin can rattling. The thing is it cost 1500 to get fixed. So if you really want an evo spec then get it from a dealer and make sure the vanos is covered.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-December-2003 at 07:13

Thanks Senny!

I'll be sure to look out for that on the cars that I look at from now on!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-December-2003 at 10:43

Darren,

           Senny is right about the vanos units, had mine done under warranty before I sold the car, total bill was over 2k. You either need to buy the car from a dealer, ( at a premium ) and make sure the warranty covers for such things as vanos units, buy one private with proof of work already done, or maybe allow for this in your purchase price. Finally, whatever you decide to do have the car checked independently, I've got to know the guy at my main dealers that service and repair all the M cars, he will do a thorough and fair inspection on any future car I buy, peace of mind. This might entail travelling some distance from where you buy the car to where you want it inspected, but if the seller is genuine he should not object, if they do object walk away??.

            AS regards price, there are a lot of these out there at the moment, scan the internet sights, autotrader is a good one, so you can get a good idea of what you should be paying, and go look at as many as you can to get a good idea of the standard of car thats out there.

             Hope this has helped and not confused you, good luck and keep us posted.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-December-2003 at 16:48
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You say new-ish to buying 2nd hand cars and performance cars etc. What are you going from and any particular reason for M3?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-December-2003 at 07:26

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I'm currently running a Fiesta Zetec S as a private car and an Astra SRi as a company car. I bought the Fiesta for the purpose of keeping insurance costs down three years ago. It's a fun car, as long as there are no straights around! I'm now after a car from a quality mark with plenty of performance for the odd track day.

What are peoples opinions on the Sequential manual gearboxes fitted to M3 Evos?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-December-2003 at 08:34
Drive as many Ms as you can-you'll know the 1 when u see it.SMG wasnt popular on these and is costly to repair if develops a fault.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-December-2003 at 17:50

Darren,

          Good section on E36 M3's in august edition of BMW car mag (2001), you might be able to access this online at www.bmwcar.co.uk good luck.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2003 at 07:09

Thanks for the advice guys. I'm looking forward to a weekend of driving as many M3s as possible! With any luck, sometime soon I'll find my perfect car!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-December-2003 at 05:50

Hi Folks

I've been test driving a few more M3s this weekend. I have driven a few dog, and one or two great cars. However, one car in particular seems very good. It's an 1998 E36 Evo coupe with 51,000 miles on the clock. It drove like a dream! However, i thought that the clutch pedal seemed a bit high off the floor in relation to the foot rest. Is this normal in these cars, or i it something that I can have adjusted?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-December-2003 at 11:44
it's the same on my e36 evo , i think they're all like it and they're made of plastic , the clutch hose needs upgrading from rubber to metal but not a problem , i knew nothing of the vanos problem till after i bought the car , so i'll keep my fingers crossed , it's a pity because they are brilliant cars ...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-December-2003 at 11:46

51000 miles on a 98 is sweet mate, just beware that it'll be looking at an inspection II in the next 8000 miles, which can be costly. Nice miles though! :-)

Can't helpyou with the clutch pedal question, but I'm sure you can have them adjusted. See when you drove you first M3, did you not feel as if the pedals were a bit over to the right, feeling odd? Or maybe I was just used to the Honda!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-December-2003 at 06:52

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Thanks for the warning on the costs of the next service! I'll use that as a bargaining chip! And you're right - the pedals dip feel a bit awkward when I first drove one! But it didn't hinder the driving experience - FANTASTIC!!

What is the current cost of replacing the vanos? I heard somewhere that the cost has dropped from £2k to £1k. Can anyone confirm this?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-December-2003 at 11:15

its around 1.5k

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Well, that's it! I've taken the plunge! I'm now the proud owner of a Boston Green 98 M3 Evo coupe! Picked it up last night, and was amazed at how easy it was to drive home along those dark country lanes! Myself and my wife spent quite a bit of time driving around Hertfordshire! I love it!!!

Thanks for all the advice that you guys gave me. I have definately found the car for me! Roll on the weekend...!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2003 at 15:05
my vanos is on its way out now booked it in to get it done £1500 from the main dealer
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22-December-2003 at 19:28
Ouch,thats gotta hurt!
What age is the car?3L or Evo?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-December-2003 at 10:01
I would have thought it to be an EVO.

I suppose all EVO owners dread the fact that maybe one day we have to dip in our pocket to the BM STEALER and get it replaced.

I wonder when you have it done do they only give 1 year warranty on the work carried out?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-December-2003 at 00:44

Bonzi,

How d'ya know for sure its on its way out?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-January-2004 at 22:36

Why do you think so many people favour the Evo despite the potential problems? Later models with less miles? Can i ask at what revs the M3 makes it's 286bhp?

How much torque?

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