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steve1
Really Senior Member I Joined: 25-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 338 |
Topic: E30 M3 chassis numbers Posted: 28-November-2003 at 23:15 |
I am in the process of buying an E30 M3 and was wondering if there was any way in which to find out if vehicle is what it should be by the chassis or vin number and engine numbers. I know you can HPI vehicles but that only tells you the info that they have on there data base, what you really need to know is what numbers it had when it came from the factory, any info would be much appreciated. steve. |
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1990 black sport evo- Now Sold
1988 325i touring ( written off ) 2002 ZM Coupe, hamann styling 328i touring ( '95 ) |
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m3geezer
Senior Member II Joined: 31-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 234 |
Posted: 29-November-2003 at 08:08 |
okay here goes:
look at chassis number, you will have'WBS' then a model number like 'AK07' , then 3 insignificant digits then the serial like 'ae42418' model numbers are: AK01 - 200bhp non-catalyst models AK03 - US models AK05 - 195bhp and later 215bhp models with catalyst AK07 - Sport Evolution (EVO3) BB01 - convertables without cat BB05 - convertables with cat serial numbers: AK01 cars: 07/85 to 02/87 - 0842001 to 0845000 02/87 to 07/87 - 219001 to 2190004 and 2190788 to 2190879 02/87 to 05/87 (EVO1) 2190005 to 2190787 07/87 to 01/89 - 2190880 to 2191371 and 2191954 to 2199224 03/88 to 05/88 (EVO2) 2191372 to 2191953 09/87 to 01/89 - 1893242 to 1894694 01/89 to 08/89 - AE31000 to AE31242 AK03 cars: 12/86 to 01/89 - 2195001 to 2198685 01/89 to 12/90 - AE33000 to AE34628 AK05 cars: 09/86 to 07/87 - 1891001 to 1893241 09/87 to 01/89 - 1893242 to 1894694 01/89 to 08/89 - AE40000 to AE40336 and AE40869 to AE40899 04/89 to 07/89 (Cecotto & Ravaglia) AE40337 to AE40868 09/89 to 12/90 (215bhp cars) AE40900 to AE42418 AK07 cars: 12/89 to 03/90 - AC79000 to AC79599 (evo3/sport evo) post reply if you need cabriolet details, my fingers can't cope with anymore typing at the moment. |
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steve1
Really Senior Member I Joined: 25-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 338 |
Posted: 29-November-2003 at 14:38 |
You're a star, many thanks. steve. |
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1990 black sport evo- Now Sold
1988 325i touring ( written off ) 2002 ZM Coupe, hamann styling 328i touring ( '95 ) |
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Anders
Newbie Joined: 20-September-2003 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 29 |
Posted: 29-November-2003 at 15:15 |
This may also help: http://www.bmw-z1.com/VIN/VINdecode-e.cgi |
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steve1
Really Senior Member I Joined: 25-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 338 |
Posted: 29-November-2003 at 17:51 |
Anders, Very useful tool!! Have tried it on the two we currently own, spot on ( thankfully ) will come in very useful in the minefield that is E30 M3's. cheers. steve. |
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1990 black sport evo- Now Sold
1988 325i touring ( written off ) 2002 ZM Coupe, hamann styling 328i touring ( '95 ) |
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M3Moose
Senior Member I Joined: 12-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: 30-November-2003 at 15:17 |
Just tried that decoder, said my car was built in 1990 yet i know its an '87 car???????
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JC , e30 m3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 02-June-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 256 |
Posted: 30-November-2003 at 17:59 |
Mine came out as manufactured in november 88 which I believe is correct, also says 'catalogue model - ECE' can anyone shed any light on what the 'ECE' signifies (if anything)?
Jamie |
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jamie
jamie@carlin.co.uk www.carlin.co.uk 89 Europameister 78 911 SC 93 MK1 MX-5 98 Ford Focus |
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Mark R
Really Senior Member I Wimborne, Dorset Joined: 24-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 436 |
Posted: 30-November-2003 at 18:08 |
I have always believed the ECE stands for 'European' model, i'm sure someone else can give you a full description. |
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Mark Roberts
E30 318iS Wessex Region Secretary E30 Registrar & committee member Someone left a note on my windscreen. It read 'Parking Fine' that was nice |
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JC , e30 m3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 02-June-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 256 |
Posted: 30-November-2003 at 18:15 |
Cheers Mark,
I'm trying to find out once and for all whether or not it's a 'Europameister' looks exactly like one I saw in the concours at Gaydon, mine has everything except the numbered plate (and the shiny underside!!) It left the factory in the same macao blue/silver leather spec. any clues? |
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jamie
jamie@carlin.co.uk www.carlin.co.uk 89 Europameister 78 911 SC 93 MK1 MX-5 98 Ford Focus |
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kevin
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 29-November-2002 Location: Camberley, Surrey Status: Offline Points: 3189 |
Posted: 30-November-2003 at 19:34 |
Sounds exactly like my Cecotto, I'm pretty sure the silver half leather spec with light grey M Power cloth combined with the light grey/silver plastic is Cecotto only. |
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
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BOYBIMMERM3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 29-October-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 265 |
Posted: 30-November-2003 at 21:06 |
hi, J.C. if you give me the chassis number can tell you if yours is an europameister. i have one, it has a plaque in the centre consul but is not numbered.
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PJSM3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 22-July-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 468 |
Posted: 30-November-2003 at 22:46 |
As far as I can remember the Europameister (195 bhp) had a full leather interior as standard. It did not have the additional spoiler package (as per Evo 2 and Cecotto/Ravaglia). Wheels were silver.
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ROB ROSS
Groupie Joined: 03-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 45 |
Posted: 01-December-2003 at 19:40 |
The europa meister 88 celebration edition was introduced in october 1988 to celebrate the M3,s win that year in the european touring car championship.There are 150 of these cars which have the 195bhp cat engine. They have full leather and carry a plaque on the dash with the signature of Roberto Ravaglia.
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JC , e30 m3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 02-June-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 256 |
Posted: 01-December-2003 at 22:12 |
Cheers lads, mine has full silver leather interior including door cards and centre console but no sign of the plaque though i suppose someone may have removed this as a nice souvenir somewhere in the last 14 years?? Chassis number ends in 1894594... Original wheels long since parted company with car.
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jamie
jamie@carlin.co.uk www.carlin.co.uk 89 Europameister 78 911 SC 93 MK1 MX-5 98 Ford Focus |
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BOYBIMMERM3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 29-October-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 265 |
Posted: 01-December-2003 at 22:50 |
yeah,J.C. you've got a real one.i only have seen or heard of three in the country. does your reg start F977?
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JC , e30 m3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 02-June-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 256 |
Posted: 02-December-2003 at 19:29 |
Yes it does! have you been following me??? The one I saw at Gaydon was F977 too - I'm a little confused about this because I could understand consecutive/similar reg no.s if the plates were issued 'at birth' but my car wasn't imported into the UK til 2000??? Do you own one too Boybimmer? Was it you i spoke to at Gaydon? Who has the others? how many are in the UK? Will we ever find out? Tune in later for the next exciting episode......
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jamie
jamie@carlin.co.uk www.carlin.co.uk 89 Europameister 78 911 SC 93 MK1 MX-5 98 Ford Focus |
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JC , e30 m3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 02-June-2003 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 256 |
Posted: 02-December-2003 at 19:31 |
Sorry BB, just read your previous post, I know you have one!!
Apologies to Steve for hijacking your Topic...sorry mate! |
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jamie
jamie@carlin.co.uk www.carlin.co.uk 89 Europameister 78 911 SC 93 MK1 MX-5 98 Ford Focus |
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BOYBIMMERM3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 29-October-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 265 |
Posted: 03-December-2003 at 00:32 |
hi have not been following you! saw you last night( mon eve) on the m3 london bound ,near hook. i was doing about 90ish and you came on past. had a double take, thought it was mine. mine was at gaydon reg no is f947 ,mine was imported in 98 i think. think i proably did speak to you at gaydon in august.
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