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    Posted: 22-April-2007 at 11:16

A few weeks ago I had my (second-hand, genuine) MV-72 wheels put on my car. I considered a number of different tyres including Pirelli P-Zero and Bridgestone Potenza but after several delivery related issues ended up with Michelin Pilot Sport PS2. I had Michelin Pilot Primacy on the car before that (size 205/55/16 all round). I must say the PS2's are fantastic; obviously the wider tyres and bigger wheels (225/40/18 and 255/35/18) may have somthing to do with it but still; I would greatly recommend this tyre to anybody looking for a high performance tyre.

I note in the latest BMWcar magazine that both the new M3 and the Alpina B3 featured are shod with these tyre (as well as the M-B McLaren SLR).

Least impressive tyre I have put on a car was a few years ago; the Falken Ziex (502, I think), nice thread-pattern but very little grip!

What tyre do you have on your car and what is your experience?

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I'm using Vredestein Sportrac 3s (205/60/15).

See the following thread:
http://www.bavarian-board.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=36630

I'm happy with them anyway. Very good grip!
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I used Dunlops Michelin Primacy and PS2's Bridgestone Potenzas and Falken 502 and now 452's on a variety of cars.

 Bridgestone Potenzas and Falken 502's are total b.lix, followed closely by Michelin Primacy, Dunlops Sp 9000 and 2000 are ok but get quiet noisy and grip goes when tread goes under 3mm. Michelin PS 2's are quiet good but extremly overpriced the new Falken FK 452's exeeded every expectation as I don't use traction control I would feel/see any short coming perfect in wet and dry. Half the price of the PS'2s as well

Oh and I never give a monkey about the tread pattern "look" as long as they do what they should.

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I had Potenzas on a previous car, and didn't think they had the promised grip. Fine tyres, but not what you'd be led to believe.

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I have Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3's on my M3. Great tyre for the road and a
good looking pattern. But I will say that the level of grip on the very very wet
Mondello track last October was just incredible. I couldn't believe how far I
could push the car in the wet. I was expecting far more understeer but very
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote highbeem Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-April-2007 at 20:11

 

Good year F1 as alex above

Read this article called "The quick and the tread" in American magazine Car and driver they used 325's for test.

This made up my mine for me.

hope this link works

www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=4&article_id=10252 - 73k -

and it does'nt= bummer

maybe a gifted soul could help. 



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thanks for sorting that link out Killian

 

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Toyo Proxes T1-R with rim protection....can't fault them, great grip rain or shine and nice pattern.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote larzyh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24-April-2007 at 07:51

I think the Michelin PS2's are priced as one would expect from a top brand premium product. I notice that the Koenigsegg wears PS2's as well; I think they must be doing something right.

I do believe the Goodyear F1 is a very good tyre.

A note on Bridgestone; there are Potenza's and there are Potenza's. I wanted to buy the RE050 but no; the Irish distributor could only supply RE040, which I believe to be a much less good tyre, so no sale there!

I agree with beemerchris in so far as tyre thread pattern is a very poor indicator of performance and as such is irrelevant. I mentioned the look of the Falken's in my original post precisely to illustrate that point.

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I use Falkens, and have done on several cars now.  I find them excellent.

As BeemerChris mentioned, the tyre model differs a lot, too.

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Most of what you buy, unless they're obviously made of plastic and manufactured in Uzbekistan, have adequate levels of grip, rolling resistance values, wear characteristics etc etc.. Personally, I think it's not all about grip unless it's straight line braking.

I'm more interested in how they go about the slip part as it's this that defines how your car feels in extremis. I've found Pirellis a joy. They don't have the limpet-like grip of F1s, but they consistently go from grip to slip better than any tyre I've had.

Falkens, Bridgestone, Yokahoma.. they all do the job with varying degrees of excellence in one area or another.

Nankang mud and snow tyres are also very progressive in the wet on track, though they do overheat a bit in the dry!



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Originally posted by Brianp Brianp wrote:

I had Potenzas on a previous car, and didn't think they had the promised grip. Fine tyres, but not what you'd be led to believe.


What type of Potenza as there a quite a few? The RE720 are average, but the S02's and S03's were very, very good. The latter are the best tyre I have ever owned.

I'm using the Toyo Proxes now as I can't get the S03's in my size anymore. The give good feedback and gradual breakaway but are not anywhere near as grippy when cornering as the S03's.
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