Delegates Day - Picters

Nice cars!  Angles made me feel a bit sea sick.

What was the chat then?  As this forum isn't part of the club we dont all get the mag

Pete330 wrote: Jack735 wrote:   What was the chat then?  As this forum isn't part of the club we don't all get the mag Join and find out

Given what’s happened in the not too distant past I don’t feel at the moment the club is the sort of association I would want to be a member of, or contribute money to.

I am, however, of the opinion that such a state of affairs cannot last forever and would be happy to learn of conciliatory tones coming from the club, I think unlikely, or a change in management [style] again probably unlikely in the short to medium term.

I joined this forum before I heard about the club and have been made very welcome by; helped by; humoured by; had a laugh with people from all over these islands (and probably beyond). My allegiance (if that's what it is) is with the forum and those who run it.

Being one of the worlds most eternal optimists I however remain hopeful. At my age (49) I fear I may be running out of time.

Webdunk wrote: Broadly it was a chance for club members at Regional and Register Chair level to go along and take a.n.other member with them to chunter about all things club. It was a highly positive event and if even half of what was discussed is improved or delivered it can only be good news. Collar me at the next meet we're both at and I'll talk it through with you

Thanks but, that's not the issue here Dunc. Surely there should be something posted up on the BMWCC forums (in the members only section) or an email to members or letters out to members (who don't have internet access)

I can't make the next meet due to pre-arranged commitments so, it'll be the following meet (maybe) and by that time it's old news again..

Hopefully you understand where I am coming from..I'm all for the bigger picture of the car club and would like to be informed of the progress as a club member, that ain't too much to ask is it?

Pete330 wrote: Jack735 wrote: At my age (49) I fear I may be running out of time.   Your still a spring chicken at that age

Cheers Pete, egg in the post!

You can be as positive as you like but I still believe that ALL of your money, enthusiasm and effort is going into the coffers of a regime which returns nothing to the region you come from.  The 'benefits' you get are pretty worthless or they can be gained without being linked to the national club in any case, Why waste £35 if it's just being used to pay someone elses salary and telephone bill?

I think the Scottish mob are well placed to set up their own distinct club with their own funds, discount schemes, and affiliate businesses (such as Davy, Kevin etc).  We could even organise rolling road days and track days at a central location for the benefit of all members.  This is much more effective if it is done under the banner of an offical club (with our own letterhead) rather than as a group of members and forum users with no real organisation behind them.  We could get involved with more local businesses (even dealers!) for discount structures and events.

I know this takes some administration and committment but we have a number of talented and enthusiastic people here already who are happy to do it under the current structure.  There is already a Scottish club website which (I believe) is distinct from the national one.  There is already an affiliated forum we all use - this one - which would be happy to see it's principal contributors become more organised and less reliant on the national body, which only pays lip service to our region in any case.  There may even be a similar ground-swell of opinion for a similar set-up on the other side of Rockall (Killian??)

How much more enthusiasm would we generate for a local club with it's own local management, run on a not-for-profit basis, by and for the benefit of local members.  I would certainly be much happier to get involved in such a venture and even take an active part in the stewardship of it.  If we are professional about the way it's handled, I believe we can make it a real success.  I would never say that of the national club.

Think about it seriously guys...  it really does make sense.

Chas

m3Cecotto wrote: That's the very attitude that makes the BMWCC what it is - sh*te.

I've started a new thread for this topic so please register your thoughts on that one.

http://www.bavarian-board.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=36843&am p;PN=1